| New broom? – Preview on 05:26 - Jan 13 with 7969 views | bongo_king |
Great article as ever.
Time will tell whether or not this will be a good appointment. But one thing for sure - all the stuff which has happened over the last 3 months - Cifuentes in, new CEO, signs of the beginning of a cleanout - should have happened 6 months ago. If we were taking an advisory firm, they should have been engaged at the beginning of may the second it was clear we were staying in the champ; and new CEO, manager in pre-season. Manager probably wouldn't have been Cifuentes due to Scandi season, but while I like Cifuentes, we've seen from other champ teams that good alternatives do exist. Instead we've faffed around for 6 months, and if we go down - which looks increasingly likely - IMO it's due to that. |  | |  |
| New broom? – Preview on 06:29 - Jan 13 with 7897 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Great article, as I know nothing about this guy.
Any change is welcome, and perhaps with Tony and Amit gone he will be able to stamp his authority on the club. Looks like a good start though, Marti in, Ramsey out. | | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 06:40 - Jan 13 with 7901 views | thehat |
Thanks Clive - Brilliant well balanced article.
I try to be a half cup full man but right now I’m still looking for the cup.
At least we now know where we stand on January reinforcements so our planning for next season as a League 1 club should start now. | | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 07:51 - Jan 13 with 7793 views | DeanoMD |
Remember when everyone was passing round the 'Get out of our club' pic's and stickers of Les, Lee, Amit and Reuben? Well they pretty much are now.
What could possibly go wrong...... | | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 08:14 - Jan 13 with 7694 views | kitkev |
good article clive not knowing about his bloke, i wonder as the rex company were looking for investors wether they found one but have stipulated they would like this bloke to run it, from now till an investment is put in.
as he was overseeing the audit and delivered the final report it would make sense to have him in place to safeguard any future balls up's till deal was done | | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 08:32 - Jan 13 with 7639 views | GaryBannister86 |
Thanks Clive, as brilliantly readable and insightful as ever. I have no idea where I would get to know more about QPR without you. Not sure Cinzano's ego tweets would really replace it.
A question - do you think there is a hint of a plan that if we did get relegated to throw money at League One and rebuild that way? Or would the owners' interest and deep pockets finally dwindle away?
I would be happy with investing to rebuild, but only if done sensibly and not just getting every ageing mercenary they can find. And it would seem to me the only hope of keeping Cifuentes on board.
Ah well here's to Sunday and watching Begovic throw one in whilst everyone else tells me how great he is. |  | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 08:40 - Jan 13 with 7617 views | Gus_iom |
Nailed it, again.
Great writing. | | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 09:16 - Jan 13 with 7486 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Superb piece. God bless your memory.
Good summation of Hoos's time as CEO, and I agree that with Nourry we can only wait and see. I said yesterday that I found it striking that so many people watched the same interview only to have all of their varying views confirmed. In truth, we know nothing and should and must judge him based purely on his actions. |  |
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| New broom? – Preview on 09:39 - Jan 13 with 7376 views | gazza1 |
I haven't read the 7 pages about the new CEO - why would I
...........what I can say after listening to the new CEO and reading about him I think he looks like a good one. I, also, like Hoos so I am glad that he has held onto the Chairmanship, what with the new Manager I think that we are getting a very good 'off the field' crew in.
BUT who knows, it could all be a disaster but I'm very positive about these guys.
The only disappointment is that the interview with the 'new broom' suggest (imo) that we may not be signing anybody this transfer window which tbh surprises me and could mean a very difficult task staying in the Championship. | | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 09:47 - Jan 13 with 7352 views | colinallcars |
I suppose if Watford don't pick Francisco Sierralta, they'll be Sans Francisco. |  | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 10:31 - Jan 13 with 7217 views | Northernr |
| New broom? – Preview on 09:47 - Jan 13 by colinallcars |
I suppose if Watford don't pick Francisco Sierralta, they'll be Sans Francisco. |
Stealing that. |  | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 10:43 - Jan 13 with 7161 views | Antti_Heinola |
Thanks Clive.
Great round-up of Hoos, and while I (and, clearly, he) would agree a change was overdue, I think a lot of his haters are going to be disappointed about how little changes.
I don't know why, but this whole thing has tipped me over the edge a bit. I knew we'd get relegated under Ainsworth, but had a tiny bit of hope under Cifuentes. That's now vanished. Maybe it was because I had a dream I was watching us and no one was doing anything, and I ended up in a shouting match with a non-plused Lyndon Dykes and as I left Colback and Cook were being interviewed with big smiles on their faces despite the loss they'd just watched... but everything feels completely, utterly fked.
Nourry *might* be able to help transform the structure of the club, but the results of that won't be felt for years. Even if he can, this is not a guy who seems like he's going to be paying any attention to the fan experience or sorting out pricing or any of that stuff that affects fans and got so many people angry with Hoos. He's not Jim Frayling, is what I'm saying. A Jim Frayling next to him would make me feel better, but then Nourry would be a Sporting Director, surely. And do you need two people?
I'm very unnerved by you and lassel reporting on goings on at the training ground. Marti fuming. 'no matter how bad you think it is, it's worse' - I mean, what does that even mean? Morale? Player attitudes? Staff unhappiness? Stuff not working? What? When Larkeche forced that 3rd goal against Stoke and the dugout emptied, I thought 'blimey, they DO care'... but that seems a lifetime ago. I don't think, sadly, there is any chance Cifuentes will be manager here next season, and he'll probably be managing Watford within 2 months.
I'm bereft.
I said last summer we were miles away from bottoming out, and it feels even more like that now. It feels like 2000 again, with hope basically blown away. If, as you say, a corner is to be turned, that corner looks like being 10-15 years away to me. We have a poor squad that can't score goals, has a midfield too timid to pass forward, and can't defend set pieces. Whatever happens, miracle or not, a large portion of them will certainly be shown the door at the end of the season. So other than professional pride (!), I can't see them rousing themselves to put in the performances we need to get 8 wins and a few draws from 20 games. It just isn't happening. Other clubs have gone to league one and restructured and come back stronger of course, but there will be no happiness here for a long, long time. |  |
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| New broom? – Preview on 10:45 - Jan 13 with 7156 views | Loyalitat |
| New broom? – Preview on 09:47 - Jan 13 by colinallcars |
I suppose if Watford don't pick Francisco Sierralta, they'll be Sans Francisco. |
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| New broom? – Preview on 10:48 - Jan 13 with 7139 views | Northernr |
| New broom? – Preview on 10:43 - Jan 13 by Antti_Heinola |
Thanks Clive.
Great round-up of Hoos, and while I (and, clearly, he) would agree a change was overdue, I think a lot of his haters are going to be disappointed about how little changes.
I don't know why, but this whole thing has tipped me over the edge a bit. I knew we'd get relegated under Ainsworth, but had a tiny bit of hope under Cifuentes. That's now vanished. Maybe it was because I had a dream I was watching us and no one was doing anything, and I ended up in a shouting match with a non-plused Lyndon Dykes and as I left Colback and Cook were being interviewed with big smiles on their faces despite the loss they'd just watched... but everything feels completely, utterly fked.
Nourry *might* be able to help transform the structure of the club, but the results of that won't be felt for years. Even if he can, this is not a guy who seems like he's going to be paying any attention to the fan experience or sorting out pricing or any of that stuff that affects fans and got so many people angry with Hoos. He's not Jim Frayling, is what I'm saying. A Jim Frayling next to him would make me feel better, but then Nourry would be a Sporting Director, surely. And do you need two people?
I'm very unnerved by you and lassel reporting on goings on at the training ground. Marti fuming. 'no matter how bad you think it is, it's worse' - I mean, what does that even mean? Morale? Player attitudes? Staff unhappiness? Stuff not working? What? When Larkeche forced that 3rd goal against Stoke and the dugout emptied, I thought 'blimey, they DO care'... but that seems a lifetime ago. I don't think, sadly, there is any chance Cifuentes will be manager here next season, and he'll probably be managing Watford within 2 months.
I'm bereft.
I said last summer we were miles away from bottoming out, and it feels even more like that now. It feels like 2000 again, with hope basically blown away. If, as you say, a corner is to be turned, that corner looks like being 10-15 years away to me. We have a poor squad that can't score goals, has a midfield too timid to pass forward, and can't defend set pieces. Whatever happens, miracle or not, a large portion of them will certainly be shown the door at the end of the season. So other than professional pride (!), I can't see them rousing themselves to put in the performances we need to get 8 wins and a few draws from 20 games. It just isn't happening. Other clubs have gone to league one and restructured and come back stronger of course, but there will be no happiness here for a long, long time. |
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| New broom? – Preview on 10:52 - Jan 13 with 7092 views | bosh67 |
Excellent article Clive.
I can't help feeling that not knowing if the new CEO is 26, 36 or 46 with him being a data analytics expert is just so ironically QPR. |  |
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| New broom? – Preview on 10:53 - Jan 13 with 7088 views | Northernr |
| New broom? – Preview on 10:52 - Jan 13 by bosh67 |
Excellent article Clive.
I can't help feeling that not knowing if the new CEO is 26, 36 or 46 with him being a data analytics expert is just so ironically QPR. |
Gotta love us. | | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 12:01 - Jan 13 with 6825 views | PunteR |
Very fair i thought.
Thanks for the article Clive.
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| New broom? – Preview on 12:11 - Jan 13 with 6779 views | loftboy |
Very informative, why can’t we get it right, been a shit show on and off for years. |  |
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| New broom? – Preview on 14:09 - Jan 13 with 6437 views | aston_hoop |
Pretty sure the bloke on companies house is our Christian Nourry. The companies house link has him a director of a company called HB Media Group. There is a Christian N. who is a 'Managing Partner' at RETEXO on LinkedIn who also has the same HB Media on his list of comapnies worked for. Would be a huge co-incidence otherwise. So I think we can say he's 26. |  |
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| New broom? – Preview on 14:27 - Jan 13 with 6378 views | mart_Goblin |
Great piece and very informative, especially about Hoos which was very balanced, as my gut reaction to his interview was that he was patting himself on the back for safe standing and fan zones. What a legacy!
I do have a genuine question about Hoos that might show me up to be Mr Thicky, so apologies if it’s stupid but here goes.
Hoos has basically, in his own words , ‘retired’ into the chairman role. He says he wants to be more of family man , spend time with grandkids and be back in the USA looking after his poorly mother which is all completely understandable and actually the correct thing to do.
So why has he not walked away completely. Why not retire?
Why is he going to be a part time chairman and presumably, correct me if I’m wrong , taking a significant wage from us that we can’t afford and are about to dish out redundancies Willy nilly to ALL areas of staff at the club.
He said when Amit left, and I’m paraphrasing, that the Chairman needed to have more of a hands on, everyday role which Amit couldn’t do.
His role now is a complete contradiction .
It’s a genuine question that I hope someone can answer . [Post edited 13 Jan 14:27]
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| New broom? – Preview on 16:30 - Jan 13 with 6022 views | TK1 |
| New broom? – Preview on 14:27 - Jan 13 by mart_Goblin |
Great piece and very informative, especially about Hoos which was very balanced, as my gut reaction to his interview was that he was patting himself on the back for safe standing and fan zones. What a legacy!
I do have a genuine question about Hoos that might show me up to be Mr Thicky, so apologies if it’s stupid but here goes.
Hoos has basically, in his own words , ‘retired’ into the chairman role. He says he wants to be more of family man , spend time with grandkids and be back in the USA looking after his poorly mother which is all completely understandable and actually the correct thing to do.
So why has he not walked away completely. Why not retire?
Why is he going to be a part time chairman and presumably, correct me if I’m wrong , taking a significant wage from us that we can’t afford and are about to dish out redundancies Willy nilly to ALL areas of staff at the club.
He said when Amit left, and I’m paraphrasing, that the Chairman needed to have more of a hands on, everyday role which Amit couldn’t do.
His role now is a complete contradiction .
It’s a genuine question that I hope someone can answer . [Post edited 13 Jan 14:27]
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Hoos will be gone at the end of the season, I reckon. Whole exercise is a holding pattern for new investment and a new board in the summer. New CEO is here basically to keep his eyes on the teller for next six months. Then there'll be a new Chair, sporting director, possibly even a new CEO with this guy reverting to data consultancy. That doesn't mean Reuben or Riley necessarily leave the board, but I think this confirms it's the end of that era. | | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 16:52 - Jan 13 with 5928 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| New broom? – Preview on 16:30 - Jan 13 by TK1 |
Hoos will be gone at the end of the season, I reckon. Whole exercise is a holding pattern for new investment and a new board in the summer. New CEO is here basically to keep his eyes on the teller for next six months. Then there'll be a new Chair, sporting director, possibly even a new CEO with this guy reverting to data consultancy. That doesn't mean Reuben or Riley necessarily leave the board, but I think this confirms it's the end of that era. |
Is that ITK, TK1 (eh?) or just an educated reading of the situation? | |
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| New broom? – Preview on 17:09 - Jan 13 with 5864 views | TK1 |
| New broom? – Preview on 16:52 - Jan 13 by BrianMcCarthy |
Is that ITK, TK1 (eh?) or just an educated reading of the situation? |
Pure guess work. But look at those videos! Hoos is off. And this guy is not here on his own, he's the outlier. | | | |
| New broom? – Preview on 17:15 - Jan 13 with 5843 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| New broom? – Preview on 17:09 - Jan 13 by TK1 |
Pure guess work. But look at those videos! Hoos is off. And this guy is not here on his own, he's the outlier. |
Ok, thanks.
I can definitely see the logic. | |
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| New broom? – Preview on 17:18 - Jan 13 with 5831 views | ngbqpr |
Pushing 60 I may be, but I do genuinely try in all things, especially QPR things, to remain positive, realistic and forward looking. What's gone is gone and all that - move on.
But a 26 year old talking up a "next generation football project" just makes me feel...uncomfortable is, I think, the word. |  |
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