| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 07:17 - Nov 21 with 2712 views | builthjack |
They do it in London |  |
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 07:51 - Nov 21 with 2698 views | majorraglan |
It’s a consultation exercise giving people the opportunity to have a say on what schools holidays look like. The extended 6 week holiday is an old concept introduced many years ago so that kids could help with the harvest.
I’m open minded on this, I’d go with a change if it’s the outcome that delivers the best duration for the kids. |  | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 08:17 - Nov 21 with 2675 views | Scotia |
I'm pretty open minded on this. The Autumn term was long this year at 7 weeks, all others are no more than 6.
I'm already eyeing up a nice 10 day break to the canaries in October 26. | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 09:18 - Nov 21 with 2646 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 08:17 - Nov 21 by Scotia |
I'm pretty open minded on this. The Autumn term was long this year at 7 weeks, all others are no more than 6.
I'm already eyeing up a nice 10 day break to the canaries in October 26. |
Welsh tourism likely to suffer? |  |
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 09:23 - Nov 21 with 2636 views | onehunglow |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 09:18 - Nov 21 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Welsh tourism likely to suffer? |
Might a good thing as tourists not exactly welcomed everywhere ,apart from their money that is . | |
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 09:49 - Nov 21 with 2619 views | AnotherJohn |
The main teaching union is unhappy and complains that an earlier discussion in WG on this issue had concluded that no action was necessary. When my son was still at school a four week break wouldn't have been good for us because we visited family in the far east most years and stayed six weeks. Now it would possibly help us if the summer holiday air fares spike is confined to a narrower period, but families with far away relatives probably won't like the change. I can't help feeling though that this is just one of a whole series of areas where Welsh policy makers want to change existing arrangements to show that Wales is different - another story from the last few days concerns plans for road charging, for instance. Meal deals, smacking, 20 mph are other areas where I feel an excessive nanny state mindset is manifesting itself. In this case the emphasis seems to be on helping a minority of disadvantaged families who are said to cope badly with such a long break, yet there seems to me to be a need for a balance between the wishes of the majority and needs of the minority, and there would be other ways of offering support to certain families during the vacation. Many other countries around the world also have a long break, so I am not sure the long holiday is always linked to history and harvest time. Are we heading for a time of Welsh exceptionalism, driven by a culture change agenda? [Post edited 21 Nov 2023 9:52]
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 09:54 - Nov 21 with 2604 views | Boundy |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 09:49 - Nov 21 by AnotherJohn |
The main teaching union is unhappy and complains that an earlier discussion in WG on this issue had concluded that no action was necessary. When my son was still at school a four week break wouldn't have been good for us because we visited family in the far east most years and stayed six weeks. Now it would possibly help us if the summer holiday air fares spike is confined to a narrower period, but families with far away relatives probably won't like the change. I can't help feeling though that this is just one of a whole series of areas where Welsh policy makers want to change existing arrangements to show that Wales is different - another story from the last few days concerns plans for road charging, for instance. Meal deals, smacking, 20 mph are other areas where I feel an excessive nanny state mindset is manifesting itself. In this case the emphasis seems to be on helping a minority of disadvantaged families who are said to cope badly with such a long break, yet there seems to me to be a need for a balance between the wishes of the majority and needs of the minority, and there would be other ways of offering support to certain families during the vacation. Many other countries around the world also have a long break, so I am not sure the long holiday is always linked to history and harvest time. Are we heading for a time of Welsh exceptionalism, driven by a culture change agenda? [Post edited 21 Nov 2023 9:52]
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Its change for the sake of change , despite the wishes of those involved ,they'll be ignored. | |
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 10:39 - Nov 21 with 2574 views | Fireboy2 |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 07:17 - Nov 21 by builthjack |
They do it in London |
And up north, my youngest's school has done for years.
I can see the point but all you have to do is take them out the last week of the July term as they do eff all there anyway, we have done it a few times. [Post edited 21 Nov 2023 10:43]
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 10:42 - Nov 21 with 2572 views | Fireboy2 |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 08:17 - Nov 21 by Scotia |
I'm pretty open minded on this. The Autumn term was long this year at 7 weeks, all others are no more than 6.
I'm already eyeing up a nice 10 day break to the canaries in October 26. |
We did this year, went to crete, 30 °C, lovely, would have been too hot in August. | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 11:55 - Nov 21 with 2514 views | Gwyn737 |
There’s not really a ‘right’ answer to this – everyone is going to have an opinion based on their circumstances.
In England the setting of term dates is not based on area, they are set by the employer (either the Local Authority, the academy trust, or in some cases the religious foundation of the school) and the only real parameter is that there are 190 school days in an academic year. In a small area, three schools could theoretically have three different term dates.
In practice, the only popular change has been to take a week off the summer and add it to October as has been suggested by the WG.
Personally, I think the summer break is too long and I’d happily see it shortened.
Actually, the dream change for me would be to take two weeks off the summer and be allowed to take 5 days as and when I’d like to. | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:25 - Nov 21 with 2493 views | controversial_jack |
Teachers won't be happy, they will have less time off | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:26 - Nov 21 with 2503 views | Gwyn737 |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:25 - Nov 21 by controversial_jack |
Teachers won't be happy, they will have less time off |
How'd you work that one out?
Children have to be in school for 190 days per academic year whichever way you slice it. | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:35 - Nov 21 with 2491 views | Whiterockin |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:26 - Nov 21 by Gwyn737 |
How'd you work that one out?
Children have to be in school for 190 days per academic year whichever way you slice it. |
Is that 190 days inclusive of the days they get off for teacher training. The summer break is normally longer because of training days added at the start of September. |  | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:44 - Nov 21 with 2473 views | Gwyn737 |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:35 - Nov 21 by Whiterockin |
Is that 190 days inclusive of the days they get off for teacher training. The summer break is normally longer because of training days added at the start of September. |
The INSET Days are extra.
For a teacher it’s 190 + 5 that are contracted but 190 teaching days 👍 | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:50 - Nov 21 with 2466 views | onehunglow |
Any “ fine” is well off set by the savings in taking them out of school.
The way holiday companies shaft families over school holiday times has always stunk | |
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:59 - Nov 21 with 2463 views | Gwyn737 |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:50 - Nov 21 by onehunglow |
Any “ fine” is well off set by the savings in taking them out of school.
The way holiday companies shaft families over school holiday times has always stunk |
There's an ongoing joke that does the rounds that if you ever want to know the school holiday dates, just check the centre parcs website. It'll be obvious. | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 13:10 - Nov 21 with 2443 views | onehunglow |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:59 - Nov 21 by Gwyn737 |
There's an ongoing joke that does the rounds that if you ever want to know the school holiday dates, just check the centre parcs website. It'll be obvious. |
Long time ago we took our kids there.
Still feel the pain | |
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 13:13 - Nov 21 with 2433 views | controversial_jack |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:44 - Nov 21 by Gwyn737 |
The INSET Days are extra.
For a teacher it’s 190 + 5 that are contracted but 190 teaching days 👍 |
That doesn't sound a lot really | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 13:14 - Nov 21 with 2440 views | felixstowe_jack |
I am sure the children would prefer an extra week off in cold wet gloomy October to a week in warm sunny dry July. | |
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 13:16 - Nov 21 with 2440 views | Gwyn737 |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 13:14 - Nov 21 by felixstowe_jack |
I am sure the children would prefer an extra week off in cold wet gloomy October to a week in warm sunny dry July. |
Maybe write to your MP?
Wales are consulting but the Tories wrote the option into law in 2013. Blame them. | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 13:21 - Nov 21 with 2436 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 13:16 - Nov 21 by Gwyn737 |
Maybe write to your MP?
Wales are consulting but the Tories wrote the option into law in 2013. Blame them. |
This is about Drakeford's Wales not England. Remember he had a consultation about 20mph but chose to ignore everyone's opinion except the ones who agree with his. He had also ignored the oipion of the majority who oppose his Senedd reform, who want investment in new roads like M4 and rural bypasses and investment to welcome tourists. | |
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| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 13:30 - Nov 21 with 2423 views | controversial_jack |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 12:50 - Nov 21 by onehunglow |
Any “ fine” is well off set by the savings in taking them out of school.
The way holiday companies shaft families over school holiday times has always stunk |
My Daughter took her kids out of primary school last sept for a family holiday which i went on too. It was all approved at the time. Now, the teachers have said they were unauthorized absences. The secretary has contradicted the teachers and said they were authorized. However, the school won't give her a print out or screen shot of the data that supports this.
I'm sure that parents have a right to see any data when requested, that's held on their children. We may have to approach the governess or make a foi request. This is so unprofessional of the school and reflect's declining school standards from what i have observed over the last 30 years | | | |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 15:49 - Nov 21 with 2397 views | Gwyn737 |
| Wales school summer holidays may be cut by a week on 13:21 - Nov 21 by felixstowe_jack |
This is about Drakeford's Wales not England. Remember he had a consultation about 20mph but chose to ignore everyone's opinion except the ones who agree with his. He had also ignored the oipion of the majority who oppose his Senedd reform, who want investment in new roads like M4 and rural bypasses and investment to welcome tourists. |
It is about school holidays though. | | | |
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