| Announcement imminent? 07:47 - Oct 30 with 11589 views | FrankRightguard |
Thought I’d pop on Skybet and see what odds they were offering for the runners and riders and there is no market available. They have one up for Bristol City so I assume whoever is coming is a done deal and they don’t want a pile on. |  | | |  |
| Announcement imminent? on 08:00 - Oct 30 with 8240 views | Rs_Holy |
I did exactly the same thing and was about to ask if anyone knew why there were no odds.... Makes sense that someone has been lined up for a while. |  | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 08:05 - Oct 30 with 8199 views | Hayesender |
Also, unless I've missed it, there's been nothing from the club regarding someone in temporary charge. Must be an announcement today I reckon |  |
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| Announcement imminent? on 08:40 - Oct 30 with 7967 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
We have a huge game on Saturday, nobody announced as in temporary charge or taking training today. No betting markets. And the Warnock sacking press release saying a new manager will be named in the coming 'days'.
I'd imagine the new manager is in the training ground as we speak. |  | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 08:42 - Oct 30 with 7950 views | daveB |
| Announcement imminent? on 08:40 - Oct 30 by Padulas_Shampoo |
We have a huge game on Saturday, nobody announced as in temporary charge or taking training today. No betting markets. And the Warnock sacking press release saying a new manager will be named in the coming 'days'.
I'd imagine the new manager is in the training ground as we speak. |
He's not even got the job yet and they've sacked him |  | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 08:48 - Oct 30 with 7902 views | ActonExile |
Les is coming back as player-manager |  |
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| Announcement imminent? on 09:00 - Oct 30 with 7807 views | PlanetHonneywood |
You'd hope the Malays at the what, fifteenth time of asking, would be well drilled at this sort of thing and would want to give the latest manager as much time as possible with the players before Saturdays crunch game. |  |
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| Announcement imminent? on 09:19 - Oct 30 with 7683 views | essextaxiboy |
| Announcement imminent? on 09:00 - Oct 30 by PlanetHonneywood |
You'd hope the Malays at the what, fifteenth time of asking, would be well drilled at this sort of thing and would want to give the latest manager as much time as possible with the players before Saturdays crunch game. |
Well they have wasted the international break and the last 3 games IMO so dont hold your breath . |  | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 09:24 - Oct 30 with 7612 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Announcement imminent? on 09:19 - Oct 30 by essextaxiboy |
Well they have wasted the international break and the last 3 games IMO so dont hold your breath . |
Something that's not gone unnoticed.
I suspect they considered those games all impending losses, and wanted NW (or an alternative option) to have on paper at least, an easier looking fixture, and for the Rfosi to be frothing at the mouth for change. Not sure how much frothier it could get! | |
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| Announcement imminent? on 11:06 - Oct 30 with 7123 views | paul63 |
Also sky saying Bristol City have Eustace, Rowett and jones top of their list to interview |  | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 11:45 - Oct 30 with 6881 views | QPRConor2000 |
Be interesting to see whether the new boss will be at the devs game at Loftus Road today. [Post edited 30 Oct 2023 11:46]
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| Announcement imminent? on 11:48 - Oct 30 with 6824 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Announcement imminent? on 11:06 - Oct 30 by paul63 |
Also sky saying Bristol City have Eustace, Rowett and jones top of their list to interview |
no way have bristol sacked Pearson only to go for one of those three surely? |  |
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| Announcement imminent? on 11:53 - Oct 30 with 6757 views | Toast_R |
| Announcement imminent? on 08:42 - Oct 30 by daveB |
He's not even got the job yet and they've sacked him |
Things move quickly in football these days. |  | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:02 - Oct 30 with 6630 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Announcement imminent? on 11:53 - Oct 30 by Toast_R |
Things move quickly in football these days. |
Am I allowed to point out that the entire world has known Ainsworth has been on the verge for at least a month and that we have one of the biggest games of the season on Saturday?
I know it's only midday on Monday but surely to God they have a plan in place for this week haven't they? I wouldn't want to waste more than a single day waiting for a decision to be made, we need to be prepping for the weekend.
If they've given him the bullet on Saturday, only to kick off days / weeks of interviews etc. I'm not sure I'll cope. | | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:02 - Oct 30 with 6624 views | BklynRanger |
| Announcement imminent? on 09:19 - Oct 30 by essextaxiboy |
Well they have wasted the international break and the last 3 games IMO so dont hold your breath . |
I feel the same way, but am guessing they needed to get the stadium sponsorship sorted to even afford to sack Gareth and Dobbo. |  | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:06 - Oct 30 with 6549 views | QPRConor2000 |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:02 - Oct 30 by BklynRanger |
I feel the same way, but am guessing they needed to get the stadium sponsorship sorted to even afford to sack Gareth and Dobbo. |
I suspect that played a part in sacking Ainsworth and Dobbo.
Also, I wonder if this deal means we can bring in reinforcements in January as well. | | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:08 - Oct 30 with 6521 views | Bluce_Ree |
Man, I'm pissed off.
We should have sacked Ainsworth on the 7th when Blackburn knobbed our tits off.
Would have had two weeks to get a guy in and get the team used to whatever the new system is going to be. With a winnable game against Huddersfield up after.
Instead we've thrown away three chances and three weeks.
Oh well, f**k it. It's only football. |  |
| Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. |
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| Announcement imminent? on 12:13 - Oct 30 with 6472 views | TheChef |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:06 - Oct 30 by QPRConor2000 |
I suspect that played a part in sacking Ainsworth and Dobbo.
Also, I wonder if this deal means we can bring in reinforcements in January as well. |
You only get dross in January though. |  |
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| Announcement imminent? on 12:17 - Oct 30 with 6400 views | Bluce_Ree |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:13 - Oct 30 by TheChef |
You only get dross in January though. |
That'll be an upgrade then :) | |
| Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. |
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| Announcement imminent? on 12:22 - Oct 30 with 6312 views | stevec |
One look at our forward line and bench, you’d imagine any self respecting prospective manager would run for the hills.
Fortunately, football doesn’t do self respecting so expect a long line of applicants looking for a three year contract and a pay off when we’re relegated. |  | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:45 - Oct 30 with 6014 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:02 - Oct 30 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Am I allowed to point out that the entire world has known Ainsworth has been on the verge for at least a month and that we have one of the biggest games of the season on Saturday?
I know it's only midday on Monday but surely to God they have a plan in place for this week haven't they? I wouldn't want to waste more than a single day waiting for a decision to be made, we need to be prepping for the weekend.
If they've given him the bullet on Saturday, only to kick off days / weeks of interviews etc. I'm not sure I'll cope. |
Hoos said an announcement within days didn't he? Suspect the new bloke already there today holding a scarf up / leaning against a large representation of the badge. | |
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| Announcement imminent? on 12:53 - Oct 30 with 5902 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:45 - Oct 30 by Antti_Heinola |
Hoos said an announcement within days didn't he? Suspect the new bloke already there today holding a scarf up / leaning against a large representation of the badge. |
That's what I imagined on Saturday too. But this talk of holding 'talks' with Lamouchi amongst others is freaking me out. | | | |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:57 - Oct 30 with 5853 views | NewBee |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:22 - Oct 30 by stevec |
One look at our forward line and bench, you’d imagine any self respecting prospective manager would run for the hills.
Fortunately, football doesn’t do self respecting so expect a long line of applicants looking for a three year contract and a pay off when we’re relegated. |
"... so expect a long line of applicants looking for a three year contract and a pay off when we’re relegated."
No offence, but it is a complete myth that your average, bog-standard manager, with a CV showing eg 3 managerial positions in the last five seasons, can rock up at a potless EFL club and then receive a nice pay-off when he's subsequently sacked 6 or 9 months into a 3 year contract etc.
Club owners may, on-the-whole, be pretty clueless when it comes to running a football club, but they're not so completely stupid that they don't insert a (minimum) severance clause into a new manager's contract when he signs it. Remember, most of the time, that new manager has very little leverage when applying for a job (i.e. they're out-of-work already, or soon will be), while owners know that if Applicant A demands too much, they can just turn to Applicant B instead.
Of course, an in-demand manager at the top of his game can make demands of his own eg when Mourinho walked away from Chelsea the first time, he apparently needed an extra-large wheelbarrow to shift his pay-off to the bank. But that was because Abram was prepared to pay top money for the top manager at the time. Whereas after Mourinho left them for the second time, the pay-off was considerably reduced.
Same eg with Poch at Tottenham. There he had apparently negotiated a good deal following his most recent contract renewal, but when Levy decided he had to go, not that long after, instead of just paying out a lump sum, he put him on 'gardening leave'. Meaning that he was still technically employed by the club and so entitled to be paid monthly etc. However, the moment he took up a new job, Spurs could cease paying him.
The QPR job will not be an attractive one for ambitious young up-and-coming managers whose career trajectory is rising, so you're very unlikely to attract such applicants (unless we're talking from League Two, or even National League?). Or the club might take a chance on some unknown foreigner who's desperate to get on the ladder in English football, but even there, such a contender would not be in a position to make contract demands, including a generous severance package.
Instead, the applicants will likely either be (A ) the same old hackneyed names, desperate for a job - any job - and so in no position to bargain; or (B ) a Big Sam or a Colin, who will come in on a short-term contract, but with a hefty bonus for keeping you up. Which, frankly, is unlikely ever to have to be paid.
P.S. None of that last bit is meant to be a wind-up, so sorry if it gets taken that way. [Post edited 30 Oct 2023 13:00]
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| Announcement imminent? on 13:04 - Oct 30 with 5725 views | TheChef |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:17 - Oct 30 by Bluce_Ree |
That'll be an upgrade then :) |
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| Announcement imminent? on 13:10 - Oct 30 with 5614 views | R_from_afar |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:02 - Oct 30 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Am I allowed to point out that the entire world has known Ainsworth has been on the verge for at least a month and that we have one of the biggest games of the season on Saturday?
I know it's only midday on Monday but surely to God they have a plan in place for this week haven't they? I wouldn't want to waste more than a single day waiting for a decision to be made, we need to be prepping for the weekend.
If they've given him the bullet on Saturday, only to kick off days / weeks of interviews etc. I'm not sure I'll cope. |
I think one thing which slows these appointments down is that the new head coach or manager often insists on bringing one or more assistants with him. Critchley brought two.
If Warnock comes, I would expect him to bring Jepson too, so that is two contracts to sort out.
That said, this sacking has been coming for some time, so the board had plenty of notice and should have a plan in place. Should... |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Announcement imminent? on 13:50 - Oct 30 with 5239 views | Northernr |
| Announcement imminent? on 12:57 - Oct 30 by NewBee |
"... so expect a long line of applicants looking for a three year contract and a pay off when we’re relegated."
No offence, but it is a complete myth that your average, bog-standard manager, with a CV showing eg 3 managerial positions in the last five seasons, can rock up at a potless EFL club and then receive a nice pay-off when he's subsequently sacked 6 or 9 months into a 3 year contract etc.
Club owners may, on-the-whole, be pretty clueless when it comes to running a football club, but they're not so completely stupid that they don't insert a (minimum) severance clause into a new manager's contract when he signs it. Remember, most of the time, that new manager has very little leverage when applying for a job (i.e. they're out-of-work already, or soon will be), while owners know that if Applicant A demands too much, they can just turn to Applicant B instead.
Of course, an in-demand manager at the top of his game can make demands of his own eg when Mourinho walked away from Chelsea the first time, he apparently needed an extra-large wheelbarrow to shift his pay-off to the bank. But that was because Abram was prepared to pay top money for the top manager at the time. Whereas after Mourinho left them for the second time, the pay-off was considerably reduced.
Same eg with Poch at Tottenham. There he had apparently negotiated a good deal following his most recent contract renewal, but when Levy decided he had to go, not that long after, instead of just paying out a lump sum, he put him on 'gardening leave'. Meaning that he was still technically employed by the club and so entitled to be paid monthly etc. However, the moment he took up a new job, Spurs could cease paying him.
The QPR job will not be an attractive one for ambitious young up-and-coming managers whose career trajectory is rising, so you're very unlikely to attract such applicants (unless we're talking from League Two, or even National League?). Or the club might take a chance on some unknown foreigner who's desperate to get on the ladder in English football, but even there, such a contender would not be in a position to make contract demands, including a generous severance package.
Instead, the applicants will likely either be (A ) the same old hackneyed names, desperate for a job - any job - and so in no position to bargain; or (B ) a Big Sam or a Colin, who will come in on a short-term contract, but with a hefty bonus for keeping you up. Which, frankly, is unlikely ever to have to be paid.
P.S. None of that last bit is meant to be a wind-up, so sorry if it gets taken that way. [Post edited 30 Oct 2023 13:00]
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