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Boil face sniffing around! 08:12 - Apr 27 with 20978 viewsconnell10

Wants Willock on the cheap..... if i was in charge i would have nothng to do with this kunt!

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Boil face sniffing around! on 00:08 - Apr 28 with 1949 viewsBurnleyhoop

Boil face sniffing around! on 19:18 - Apr 27 by daveB

I'm not sure it's about what people think, we've seen it with our own eyes so far, the current team is playing very direct and very aimless football. I don't see that changing next season under him but he'll be bringing in players who are better at at playing that way

I'm hoping he's seen that that style doesn't work but listening to him he seems to want more of it. Hope I'm wrong but been very unimpressed so far and whoever the manager is this summer no way should they be given everyone they want the same as Beale and Warbs which simply hasn't worked


We’re playing very direct for two reasons.

1 Clear the lines and dispense with the faffing between the two centre half’s and keeper.
2. We don’t have a midfield capable of receiving the ball and progressing it further up the pitch.

With the exception of Field, our midfield has been near non existent this season, and Field, whilst a great tackler, is generally weak with his distribution.

If Ainsworth can find a few decent, hard working, non injury prone players in midfield to support the likes of Chair and Taylor, we will have at least made a step in the right direction.

The soft underbelly has to be sorted once and for all, which doesn’t necessitate replacing the entire team with bruisers of limited technical ability.

A balance can and should be found and that is what I believe Ainsworth will do.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 00:16 - Apr 28 with 1922 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

I don’t think we’ve played aimlessly, I think players have let him down with their distribution and delivery but the mission has been clear.

When it’s worked it’s made goals for Dykes and Martin.

Personally, I can live with industrial football although I think the myth often overtakes the man.

We won’t be signing multi million pound creative players. Who better than Ainsworth to work to a budget.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 00:54 - Apr 28 with 1891 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Boil face sniffing around! on 11:22 - Apr 27 by CateLeBonR

Don’t they have Todd Cantwell already warming the bench in that position?


I saw this lad in the flesh away to Motherwell.

Best player on the pitch by far.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 02:56 - Apr 28 with 1842 viewsjtuck

Agree this is a good thread, though it took a while to read this far!

Personally, do not see GA's preferred playing style as 'contrarian'. Rather it is aiming for the kind of thing we have seen in recent seasons from Luton and Millwall and that has seen them compete very well in the Championship. But competing does not mean watchable! Get the point that 'beggars can't be choosers'. However, would take Illy and Willy on their prime every day over functional and direct.

LAranger

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Boil face sniffing around! on 03:48 - Apr 28 with 1818 viewsHooparoo

Boil face sniffing around! on 00:08 - Apr 28 by Burnleyhoop

We’re playing very direct for two reasons.

1 Clear the lines and dispense with the faffing between the two centre half’s and keeper.
2. We don’t have a midfield capable of receiving the ball and progressing it further up the pitch.

With the exception of Field, our midfield has been near non existent this season, and Field, whilst a great tackler, is generally weak with his distribution.

If Ainsworth can find a few decent, hard working, non injury prone players in midfield to support the likes of Chair and Taylor, we will have at least made a step in the right direction.

The soft underbelly has to be sorted once and for all, which doesn’t necessitate replacing the entire team with bruisers of limited technical ability.

A balance can and should be found and that is what I believe Ainsworth will do.


Games are always won or lost in the midfield. The engine room of any team.

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Boil face sniffing around! on 06:03 - Apr 28 with 1762 viewsSimplyNico

I think we know that Brale is mot averse to signing talented players with a poor injury record
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Boil face sniffing around! on 06:28 - Apr 28 with 1722 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Boil face sniffing around! on 00:08 - Apr 28 by Burnleyhoop

We’re playing very direct for two reasons.

1 Clear the lines and dispense with the faffing between the two centre half’s and keeper.
2. We don’t have a midfield capable of receiving the ball and progressing it further up the pitch.

With the exception of Field, our midfield has been near non existent this season, and Field, whilst a great tackler, is generally weak with his distribution.

If Ainsworth can find a few decent, hard working, non injury prone players in midfield to support the likes of Chair and Taylor, we will have at least made a step in the right direction.

The soft underbelly has to be sorted once and for all, which doesn’t necessitate replacing the entire team with bruisers of limited technical ability.

A balance can and should be found and that is what I believe Ainsworth will do.


I think people may be missing the point. Chair is highly likely going to be sold this summer, along with Willock and we wont be able to afford any decent replacements due to FFP.

The new squad will be a few left from this season, free transfers and maybe a couple of B teamers promoted to the 1st team.
No way will Ainsworth be attempting to play any other style than what we have seen so far.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 07:02 - Apr 28 with 1683 viewsPunteR

We will be favourites to go down next season im sure. ( if we even manage to stay up this) . I get some of us are trying to be pragmatic about it all but this is a shit situation. We're literally going to have to sell all our best players, and probably for peanuts.

FFP can get in the bin.
The owners might as well too.

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Boil face sniffing around! on 08:43 - Apr 28 with 1586 viewsRangersw12

Boil face sniffing around! on 07:02 - Apr 28 by PunteR

We will be favourites to go down next season im sure. ( if we even manage to stay up this) . I get some of us are trying to be pragmatic about it all but this is a shit situation. We're literally going to have to sell all our best players, and probably for peanuts.

FFP can get in the bin.
The owners might as well too.


I would snap your hand off for 21st ( in the Championship) next season already
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Boil face sniffing around! on 09:13 - Apr 28 with 1510 viewsE15Hoop

Boil face sniffing around! on 08:43 - Apr 28 by Rangersw12

I would snap your hand off for 21st ( in the Championship) next season already


F*ck me - you lot are going to be a f*cking joy to be around next season, aren't you??
Let's just check where we are in the world, shall we?!
1. We have just beaten the divisional champions, playing some decent football and having more shots on target than we have in a long time.
2. Our record in the last four games reads: DLDW which is mid-table form.
3. We have a manager who loves the club, understands how it works and has shown clearly that he can adapt to the situation at hand to help us survive in the division we're currently in.
4. He has already stated his admiration for talented skilful young players, and has basically said he wants to effectively try and build a team around one of them next season.
5. You miserable c*nts are already guaranteed to have half the squad you dislike so intensely disappear from the club over the summer, as they're all out of contract.
6. We have a manager who has already proven to be highly adept on picking up a range of bargain players from all corners of the known universe for less than your monthly mortgage payments.

What's it going to take to cheer you miserable f*ckers up?!

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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:05 - Apr 28 with 1403 viewsRangersw12

Boil face sniffing around! on 09:13 - Apr 28 by E15Hoop

F*ck me - you lot are going to be a f*cking joy to be around next season, aren't you??
Let's just check where we are in the world, shall we?!
1. We have just beaten the divisional champions, playing some decent football and having more shots on target than we have in a long time.
2. Our record in the last four games reads: DLDW which is mid-table form.
3. We have a manager who loves the club, understands how it works and has shown clearly that he can adapt to the situation at hand to help us survive in the division we're currently in.
4. He has already stated his admiration for talented skilful young players, and has basically said he wants to effectively try and build a team around one of them next season.
5. You miserable c*nts are already guaranteed to have half the squad you dislike so intensely disappear from the club over the summer, as they're all out of contract.
6. We have a manager who has already proven to be highly adept on picking up a range of bargain players from all corners of the known universe for less than your monthly mortgage payments.

What's it going to take to cheer you miserable f*ckers up?!



It's being realistic, there is going to be a fire sale in the summer due the FFP shortfall so all of the "decent" players will be sold and we will have very little money to replace them.

The ones left like JCS, Johansen and Adomah are injury prone or their legs have gone. Kakay, Drewe and travelman are not good enough.

Can't believe you're pining all your hopes on a 20 year old who has been injured for 95% of the season.

You seem to think we will do well based on blind optimism
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:18 - Apr 28 with 1388 viewsE15Hoop

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:05 - Apr 28 by Rangersw12

It's being realistic, there is going to be a fire sale in the summer due the FFP shortfall so all of the "decent" players will be sold and we will have very little money to replace them.

The ones left like JCS, Johansen and Adomah are injury prone or their legs have gone. Kakay, Drewe and travelman are not good enough.

Can't believe you're pining all your hopes on a 20 year old who has been injured for 95% of the season.

You seem to think we will do well based on blind optimism


Not blind optimism in the slightest.
If we let the out of contract players go, that's a massive chunk of the wage bill as it is. That MIGHT be enough to protect us from having to do a fire sale of literally everything.
I also wouldn't put it past us to effectively "do a Reading" (not morally sound, I know, but logistically possible..), take a points deduction on the chin and gamble (we've done it before, as we all know) that the deduction in qrestion is likely to be pretty pathetic, if it means we can keep our most talented players and pray that the benefit of having them still with us in terms of extra points gained outweighs the punishment that the EFL throws at us - or that it takes them about 5 years to actually get around to doing something about it, as it has with Reading.
Secondly, as I said earlier, we have a Manager who has sialed in these waters before, so I strongly ssupect he will be dusting off his contacts book and leveraging as much goodwill as possible to get us what we need for less than the price of your weekly shop.
Thirdly, Taylor Richards may have been injured and head other "issues" this season, but i can't think of many other people I would want to entrust his care and development to than Gareth Ainsworth and Richard Dobson PLUS all our wonderful Academy staff we keep hearing so much about, who deal with young players day in, day out.

Listen - I get that everyone's disappointed that we haven't turned out to be the second coming of Man City, but I certainly don't see any reason to be keeping the Samaritans on speed diual like a good number of you lot seem to be obsessed with doing.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:24 - Apr 28 with 1353 viewsPunteR

Boil face sniffing around! on 09:13 - Apr 28 by E15Hoop

F*ck me - you lot are going to be a f*cking joy to be around next season, aren't you??
Let's just check where we are in the world, shall we?!
1. We have just beaten the divisional champions, playing some decent football and having more shots on target than we have in a long time.
2. Our record in the last four games reads: DLDW which is mid-table form.
3. We have a manager who loves the club, understands how it works and has shown clearly that he can adapt to the situation at hand to help us survive in the division we're currently in.
4. He has already stated his admiration for talented skilful young players, and has basically said he wants to effectively try and build a team around one of them next season.
5. You miserable c*nts are already guaranteed to have half the squad you dislike so intensely disappear from the club over the summer, as they're all out of contract.
6. We have a manager who has already proven to be highly adept on picking up a range of bargain players from all corners of the known universe for less than your monthly mortgage payments.

What's it going to take to cheer you miserable f*ckers up?!



Ha!
Love your optimism mate. Let's see how the next couple of games pan out.

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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:32 - Apr 28 with 1322 viewsE15Hoop

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:24 - Apr 28 by PunteR

Ha!
Love your optimism mate. Let's see how the next couple of games pan out.


Have faith!
We have mometum, belief, team unity (finally) plus fit players, some of whom actually appear to have remembered where the oppositions' goal is.
In Wild Thing we trust!
(Disclaimer: I'm not in any way suggesting we all won't be sh*tting bricks for these next 200 minutes or so . Just remember: "Before the dawn comes the darkest hour of night...")
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:34 - Apr 28 with 1295 viewsNorthernr

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:18 - Apr 28 by E15Hoop

Not blind optimism in the slightest.
If we let the out of contract players go, that's a massive chunk of the wage bill as it is. That MIGHT be enough to protect us from having to do a fire sale of literally everything.
I also wouldn't put it past us to effectively "do a Reading" (not morally sound, I know, but logistically possible..), take a points deduction on the chin and gamble (we've done it before, as we all know) that the deduction in qrestion is likely to be pretty pathetic, if it means we can keep our most talented players and pray that the benefit of having them still with us in terms of extra points gained outweighs the punishment that the EFL throws at us - or that it takes them about 5 years to actually get around to doing something about it, as it has with Reading.
Secondly, as I said earlier, we have a Manager who has sialed in these waters before, so I strongly ssupect he will be dusting off his contacts book and leveraging as much goodwill as possible to get us what we need for less than the price of your weekly shop.
Thirdly, Taylor Richards may have been injured and head other "issues" this season, but i can't think of many other people I would want to entrust his care and development to than Gareth Ainsworth and Richard Dobson PLUS all our wonderful Academy staff we keep hearing so much about, who deal with young players day in, day out.

Listen - I get that everyone's disappointed that we haven't turned out to be the second coming of Man City, but I certainly don't see any reason to be keeping the Samaritans on speed diual like a good number of you lot seem to be obsessed with doing.


"If we let the out of contract players go, that's a massive chunk of the wage bill as it is. That MIGHT be enough to protect us from having to do a fire sale of literally everything.
I also wouldn't put it past us to effectively "do a Reading" (not morally sound, I know, but logistically possible..), take a points deduction on the chin and gamble (we've done it before, as we all know) that the deduction in qrestion is likely to be pretty pathetic, if it means we can keep our most talented players and pray that the benefit of having them still with us in terms of extra points gained outweighs the punishment that the EFL throws at us - or that it takes them about 5 years to actually get around to doing something about it, as it has with Reading."

You see, this is where it is blind optimism. In fact, it's not even that, it's just plain wrong.

The idea that we can cover the FFP hole we've created for ourselves 18 months or so from now just by packing Tyler and his fellow wasters back off to their parent clubs is just not the case. As I said pre- and post- the last set of accounts, you cannot optimism this into going away. We're going to need a significant cut in the wage bill (a good third of it from the last set of accounts to the one after the next), and some transfer fees on top, when our sellable assets are mostly in some combination of poor form, fitness and contract status.

That's not the most nuts bits of this post though...

As for "doing a Reading"... Reading haven't simply taken a six point deduction this season and tried to ride that out as you seem to intimate we could try and do here. The point deduction comes with all sorts of other stuff too. You get a transfer embargo (so none of this Gareth rebuild you're hoping for), you get an initial points deduction (so it's not just one season you have to ride out), and you get an agreed business plan (i.e. a forced fire sale).

You can't "do a Reading" to avoid the fire sale and "keep our most talented players" It's the exact, polar, opposite. The business plan is a forced fire sale. Chair, Dieng, Willock, Dickie, Dunne, Paal, they'd all have to go, and they'd have to go for buttons, look at the talent that has gone out of Reading in recent years and what they got for it. Any signings you replace them with have to be signed off by the league - frees and loans essentially.

If you don't get under the limit set by the business plan, it's another points deduction the season after, except this time the fire sale of talent has happened and all you've been allowed to replace them with is free transfers. So now you're trying to ride out the points deduction with Jeff Hendrick in midfield and what you get then is what you've got with Reading now, i.e. they're even more in the sht than we are.

Like I said yesterday, I know blanketing the place with over the top optimism is your shtick on here atm, but, my God, tossing out ideas like "let's just do a Reading" is almost as mental as Taylor Richards coming to save us. And that's without even beginning on our "wonderful academy staff".

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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:37 - Apr 28 with 1262 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Is there a chance a Chair sale could cover that £10m shortfall and some?

He’s well regarded everywhere except here it seems.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:38 - Apr 28 with 1267 viewsPhilmyRs

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:18 - Apr 28 by E15Hoop

Not blind optimism in the slightest.
If we let the out of contract players go, that's a massive chunk of the wage bill as it is. That MIGHT be enough to protect us from having to do a fire sale of literally everything.
I also wouldn't put it past us to effectively "do a Reading" (not morally sound, I know, but logistically possible..), take a points deduction on the chin and gamble (we've done it before, as we all know) that the deduction in qrestion is likely to be pretty pathetic, if it means we can keep our most talented players and pray that the benefit of having them still with us in terms of extra points gained outweighs the punishment that the EFL throws at us - or that it takes them about 5 years to actually get around to doing something about it, as it has with Reading.
Secondly, as I said earlier, we have a Manager who has sialed in these waters before, so I strongly ssupect he will be dusting off his contacts book and leveraging as much goodwill as possible to get us what we need for less than the price of your weekly shop.
Thirdly, Taylor Richards may have been injured and head other "issues" this season, but i can't think of many other people I would want to entrust his care and development to than Gareth Ainsworth and Richard Dobson PLUS all our wonderful Academy staff we keep hearing so much about, who deal with young players day in, day out.

Listen - I get that everyone's disappointed that we haven't turned out to be the second coming of Man City, but I certainly don't see any reason to be keeping the Samaritans on speed diual like a good number of you lot seem to be obsessed with doing.


"I can't think of many other people I would want to entrust his care and development to than Gareth Ainsworth". I can. Richards is a ball playing attacking midfielder. He's got a lot to learn but has progressed via the Brighton academy and despite his issues, does appear to have some talent. I don't think the talent of players like Richards will be developed to anywhere near the level it would be under other coaches. Warbs is an obvious example, but his emphasis on ball retention, valuing possession, keeping the ball on the deck was excellent for the crop of youngsters we had - so many of them really kicked on and developed and are much better players now - Bright, Eze, Chair. Do I think an Ainsworth QPR that values what it does out of possession rather than what it does with it, and is known to be direct in style - we've seen it first hand - will be anywhere as good for the development of these type of players? Short answer is NO.

"get that everyone's disappointed that we haven't turned out to be the second coming of Man city..." Come on, most of us don't expect to be steam rolling the league, but under Ainsworth I've seen some of the worst performances since we got relegated from the Prem and I think 6-1 at Blackpool and the inept rubbish dished out at home to Birmingham and Coventry were totally unacceptable and we had every right to be critical of them and expect better. That's not being disappointed becaue we're not Man City, that's being disappointed because the Manager and Team, both failed massively in a number of games.

I've seen nothing since he arrived which has made me think he'll be a good fit for us. I'm amazed so many have clung to the amazing result at Burnley as evidence of what he can do. That game should have been out of sight by half time, we were incredibly lucky, but so pleased we got the result. That wasn't a tactical master class from the Manager, that was the footballing gods smiling down on us.

I hope I'm wrong, I really do, and he proves to be a success, but I can't see it and I think the appointment is a backward, and potentially really damaging one for us.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:38 - Apr 28 with 1264 viewsNorthernr

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:37 - Apr 28 by BazzaInTheLoft

Is there a chance a Chair sale could cover that £10m shortfall and some?

He’s well regarded everywhere except here it seems.


You think we're getting £10m for Ilias Chair?
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:40 - Apr 28 with 1241 viewsdaveB

Boil face sniffing around! on 00:08 - Apr 28 by Burnleyhoop

We’re playing very direct for two reasons.

1 Clear the lines and dispense with the faffing between the two centre half’s and keeper.
2. We don’t have a midfield capable of receiving the ball and progressing it further up the pitch.

With the exception of Field, our midfield has been near non existent this season, and Field, whilst a great tackler, is generally weak with his distribution.

If Ainsworth can find a few decent, hard working, non injury prone players in midfield to support the likes of Chair and Taylor, we will have at least made a step in the right direction.

The soft underbelly has to be sorted once and for all, which doesn’t necessitate replacing the entire team with bruisers of limited technical ability.

A balance can and should be found and that is what I believe Ainsworth will do.


We had a midfield capable of doing that a few months ago, I do agree though a balance between kick and rush and passing sideways is needed, we seemed to have that for a few weeks under Beale but that feels like years ago at the moment

I don't think there is anything wrong with how Ainsworth wants to play, it's not something I enjoy but it can work, we shouldn't pretend this has been forced on him though as it really hasn't been and we are in a situation at the moment where we have to leave some talented players out because they just can't play this style
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:40 - Apr 28 with 1230 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:38 - Apr 28 by Northernr

You think we're getting £10m for Ilias Chair?


Well, and I say this as someone absolutely ignorant of player market values, he gets so much love from the CBeebies outside of the club I can imagine at least two clubs from the lower end of the Prem or newly promoted are silly enough which is all it takes.

It’s the sort of signing I’d be going for if I was Sheffield United or Burnley.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:42 - Apr 28 with 1236 viewsPhilmyRs

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:38 - Apr 28 by Northernr

You think we're getting £10m for Ilias Chair?


Reckon we could get £10m for Dykes, Chair and Willock.

£2-3m from Wall for Dykes, £5m for Chair and Willock makes up the shortfall).
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:46 - Apr 28 with 1208 viewsE15Hoop

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:34 - Apr 28 by Northernr

"If we let the out of contract players go, that's a massive chunk of the wage bill as it is. That MIGHT be enough to protect us from having to do a fire sale of literally everything.
I also wouldn't put it past us to effectively "do a Reading" (not morally sound, I know, but logistically possible..), take a points deduction on the chin and gamble (we've done it before, as we all know) that the deduction in qrestion is likely to be pretty pathetic, if it means we can keep our most talented players and pray that the benefit of having them still with us in terms of extra points gained outweighs the punishment that the EFL throws at us - or that it takes them about 5 years to actually get around to doing something about it, as it has with Reading."

You see, this is where it is blind optimism. In fact, it's not even that, it's just plain wrong.

The idea that we can cover the FFP hole we've created for ourselves 18 months or so from now just by packing Tyler and his fellow wasters back off to their parent clubs is just not the case. As I said pre- and post- the last set of accounts, you cannot optimism this into going away. We're going to need a significant cut in the wage bill (a good third of it from the last set of accounts to the one after the next), and some transfer fees on top, when our sellable assets are mostly in some combination of poor form, fitness and contract status.

That's not the most nuts bits of this post though...

As for "doing a Reading"... Reading haven't simply taken a six point deduction this season and tried to ride that out as you seem to intimate we could try and do here. The point deduction comes with all sorts of other stuff too. You get a transfer embargo (so none of this Gareth rebuild you're hoping for), you get an initial points deduction (so it's not just one season you have to ride out), and you get an agreed business plan (i.e. a forced fire sale).

You can't "do a Reading" to avoid the fire sale and "keep our most talented players" It's the exact, polar, opposite. The business plan is a forced fire sale. Chair, Dieng, Willock, Dickie, Dunne, Paal, they'd all have to go, and they'd have to go for buttons, look at the talent that has gone out of Reading in recent years and what they got for it. Any signings you replace them with have to be signed off by the league - frees and loans essentially.

If you don't get under the limit set by the business plan, it's another points deduction the season after, except this time the fire sale of talent has happened and all you've been allowed to replace them with is free transfers. So now you're trying to ride out the points deduction with Jeff Hendrick in midfield and what you get then is what you've got with Reading now, i.e. they're even more in the sht than we are.

Like I said yesterday, I know blanketing the place with over the top optimism is your shtick on here atm, but, my God, tossing out ideas like "let's just do a Reading" is almost as mental as Taylor Richards coming to save us. And that's without even beginning on our "wonderful academy staff".

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OK - that's me told, Clive.
I humbly apologise and will now go and stand in the corner and contemplate what the point of it all is, like so many other people seem to be doing.
HOWEVER - before I do, let's just remember this, shall we? This is in no way the same as 2000-01, when the very club was threatened with disappearing into the annals of football history.
As I remember, we not only survived (with a lot of help and care from some loving donors, I know), but came back and gave us all some fantastic memories that have stayed with us all ever since.
Granted, the football wasn't going to win us many awards for artistic merits back then, but I for one thoroughly enjoyed making good friends with Ollie, Danny Shittu, Marc Bircham etc.
So in conclusion, I might be - in your estimation "nuts" to be optimistic, but I just don't gret the "we're all doomed" scenario that many people seem to be indulging themselves in.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:49 - Apr 28 with 1192 viewsNorthernr

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:46 - Apr 28 by E15Hoop

OK - that's me told, Clive.
I humbly apologise and will now go and stand in the corner and contemplate what the point of it all is, like so many other people seem to be doing.
HOWEVER - before I do, let's just remember this, shall we? This is in no way the same as 2000-01, when the very club was threatened with disappearing into the annals of football history.
As I remember, we not only survived (with a lot of help and care from some loving donors, I know), but came back and gave us all some fantastic memories that have stayed with us all ever since.
Granted, the football wasn't going to win us many awards for artistic merits back then, but I for one thoroughly enjoyed making good friends with Ollie, Danny Shittu, Marc Bircham etc.
So in conclusion, I might be - in your estimation "nuts" to be optimistic, but I just don't gret the "we're all doomed" scenario that many people seem to be indulging themselves in.


You're not nuts to be optimistic, but you are nuts to think "doing a Reading" is a potential way out of this. Just look at Reading, which bit of that situation do we covet?
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:49 - Apr 28 with 1181 viewsNorthernr

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:40 - Apr 28 by BazzaInTheLoft

Well, and I say this as someone absolutely ignorant of player market values, he gets so much love from the CBeebies outside of the club I can imagine at least two clubs from the lower end of the Prem or newly promoted are silly enough which is all it takes.

It’s the sort of signing I’d be going for if I was Sheffield United or Burnley.
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Well... let's see how it goes.
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Boil face sniffing around! on 10:54 - Apr 28 with 1110 viewsE15Hoop

Boil face sniffing around! on 10:49 - Apr 28 by Northernr

You're not nuts to be optimistic, but you are nuts to think "doing a Reading" is a potential way out of this. Just look at Reading, which bit of that situation do we covet?


OK, I get that - and I might well have been flirting with artistic licence with that bit just to make a point (not the only one to have been doing that on here recently IMHO) , but thank you for at least acknowledging that I don't have to worry about being carted off to somewhere unmentionable for the good of my future sanity, which is more positive than some of the reactions I've been treated to over the last couple of weeks.
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