| Hornets on Sunday 19:31 - Feb 24 with 299546 views | EllDale |
They’re tweeting that their “matchday operations” are being restricted for the home game against Barrow on Sunday for reasons that they don’t want to divulge at the moment.
The bottom line is that the crowd capacity is limited to 920 and there will be no cash admissions on the day.
Wonder what that’s all about? |  | | |  |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:05 - Feb 12 with 5476 views | blackdogblue |
This gem on their forum:
Steve Kerr has recently been slagging off, Hornets loyal supporters for not supporting the club through season ticket sales.
We are living through a period of austerity, and its obvious some supporters can't afford
the platinum ticket which is being promoted on line.
Why can't a standard ticket be bought on line.
Why do we need to pick a seat.
This is why supporters are reluctant to purchase tickets.
# probably the same reason no one has replied to the OP… what fans 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ðŸ˜Ž |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 10:55 - Feb 12 with 5350 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:05 - Feb 12 by blackdogblue |
This gem on their forum:
Steve Kerr has recently been slagging off, Hornets loyal supporters for not supporting the club through season ticket sales.
We are living through a period of austerity, and its obvious some supporters can't afford
the platinum ticket which is being promoted on line.
Why can't a standard ticket be bought on line.
Why do we need to pick a seat.
This is why supporters are reluctant to purchase tickets.
# probably the same reason no one has replied to the OP… what fans 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ðŸ˜Ž |
The very low level of season ticket sales at Rochdale Hornets has been known for some time - it first appeared on this thread in mid-January.
I’d presume it was one of the topics for discussion at the all parties meeting called by the Council disclosed by the club on Thursday because it’s one of the main parts of Hornets funding each season and underpins payment of their rent and stewarding costs.
What is undeniable is that we are living in the midst of a huge economic crisis for individuals and families. Rochdale as a town has examples of that everywhere you look much like other areas of the UK. If you can’t afford to eat or heat your home, then how on earth are you going to find the money for 90 minutes of football or 80 minutes of rugby league.
It looks like, in the main, Hornets have tried this season to be at home on weekends where football is away which might help.
Off the back of that, Rugby League offers minimal central funding at Hornets level and just 9 home league games mainly against backwater sides. Hornets average crowd last year was just over 500 and that was lifted by two games against Oldham and Swinton.
We know only too well the challenges on the football side of things. Football in the lower leagues is financially broken and the EFL are toothless against the FA and Premier League. Not one club in League 2 is making a profit right now and I can’t see how anyone in League 2 next year will make a profit either.
The current saving grace in our case we own outright and operate a key sporting asset in the town being the ground and because of prudence own that asset outright.
It is probably why the Council are finally taking an interest since by May 2023, the two main sporting clubs in Rochdale’s future might look radically different.
You only have to look at Doncaster to see the impact of a financially engaged and supportive council compared to goings on here. Doncaster even managed hosting a rugby league World Cup game.
It’s going to be a very hard season for Hornets this year financially make no mistake about it. |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 11:30 - Feb 12 with 5288 views | blackdogblue |
Don’t mention World Cup games, you will set them off again 🤨🤣🤣 | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 07:18 - Feb 13 with 4964 views | rkershaw |
| Hornets on Sunday on 11:30 - Feb 12 by blackdogblue |
Don’t mention World Cup games, you will set them off again 🤨🤣🤣 |
Being a loyal supporter of BOTH clubs.....I hope that BOTH clubs can survive this difficult time. If clubs are trying to alternate home / away fixtures in order to protect the notiriously tempremental pitch then why not try to promote some kind of COA pass / joint season ticket. That way, the COA facility would be utilised every weekend. Supporters of BOTH clubs are struggling to afford the price of x1 season ticket ....never mind x2 (main stand Dale plus Hornets = circa £500) It might impact on the loyal Dale away support but surely Ifollow etc is doing that anyway? We desperately need for BOTH clubs to support each other as we all know that this is not a matter of the number of fans that Dale / Hornets might or might not have but instead a case of prolonging the survival of semi professional / professional sporti within the borough. Surely EVERY feasible suggestion needs to be explored....especially with the threat of Dale relegation being a distinct possibility with x16 to go!!?? | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 08:15 - Feb 13 with 4902 views | hammerdale |
| Hornets on Sunday on 07:18 - Feb 13 by rkershaw |
Being a loyal supporter of BOTH clubs.....I hope that BOTH clubs can survive this difficult time. If clubs are trying to alternate home / away fixtures in order to protect the notiriously tempremental pitch then why not try to promote some kind of COA pass / joint season ticket. That way, the COA facility would be utilised every weekend. Supporters of BOTH clubs are struggling to afford the price of x1 season ticket ....never mind x2 (main stand Dale plus Hornets = circa £500) It might impact on the loyal Dale away support but surely Ifollow etc is doing that anyway? We desperately need for BOTH clubs to support each other as we all know that this is not a matter of the number of fans that Dale / Hornets might or might not have but instead a case of prolonging the survival of semi professional / professional sporti within the borough. Surely EVERY feasible suggestion needs to be explored....especially with the threat of Dale relegation being a distinct possibility with x16 to go!!?? |
Unfortunately we have an apathetic Town when it comes to Sport, I think Dale have done well to keep their level of support, considering the results and quality of the team. If that team was in the late 70s the gates would have been below a thousand. As for Hornets I believe they need to move as soon as possible, low gates, little Rugby League funding, no bar income , no car park income and the football club even dictating kick off times, is not sustainable. Grant's and Council support could aide a move, then at least they could manage their own affairs and satisfy the many Dale supporters who never wanted them at Spotland in the first place. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:27 - Feb 13 with 4636 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 07:18 - Feb 13 by rkershaw |
Being a loyal supporter of BOTH clubs.....I hope that BOTH clubs can survive this difficult time. If clubs are trying to alternate home / away fixtures in order to protect the notiriously tempremental pitch then why not try to promote some kind of COA pass / joint season ticket. That way, the COA facility would be utilised every weekend. Supporters of BOTH clubs are struggling to afford the price of x1 season ticket ....never mind x2 (main stand Dale plus Hornets = circa £500) It might impact on the loyal Dale away support but surely Ifollow etc is doing that anyway? We desperately need for BOTH clubs to support each other as we all know that this is not a matter of the number of fans that Dale / Hornets might or might not have but instead a case of prolonging the survival of semi professional / professional sporti within the borough. Surely EVERY feasible suggestion needs to be explored....especially with the threat of Dale relegation being a distinct possibility with x16 to go!!?? |
I'm not sure that the joint season ticket has legs. These are separate entities with separate business models and no shared costs.
The football club have all the costs of running a stadium and the rugby league club have a tenancy agreement that permits a certain level of occupation.
The price points are interesting. If I take a 65+ ticket the costs in the main stand are:
Football - £260 for 23 games = £11.30 per game
RL - £150 for 9 games - £16.67 per game
It can't be right that RL is nearly 50% more expensive per game than football on a season ticket and at £17 on the day vs £19 for football it doesn't really promote getting a season ticket.
When you think that not everyone can get to every game, £150 for 8 or 7 games gets well above the on the day ticket price. The economics need looking at there.
The point about alternating use looks to have been adopted now and if you look at February and May there are 14 well spaced out and regular use:
18th February - RAFC vs Gillingham
21st February - RAFC vs Stockport
26th February - Hornets vs London Skolars
4th March - RAFC vs Stevenage
5th March - Hornets vs Doncaster
18th March - RAFC vs Swindon
26th March - Hornets vs Dewsbury Rams
7th April - RAFC vs Walsall
15th April - RAFC vs Bradford
16th April - Hornets vs Workington
18th April - RAFC vs Tranmere
29th April - RAFC vs Sutton
7th May - Hornets vs Crusaders
21st May - Hornets vs Cornwall
There is then nothing at Spotland until 23rd July, presumably so the pitch work gets done. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 06:30 - Feb 14 with 4524 views | rkershaw |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:27 - Feb 13 by RAFCBLUE |
I'm not sure that the joint season ticket has legs. These are separate entities with separate business models and no shared costs.
The football club have all the costs of running a stadium and the rugby league club have a tenancy agreement that permits a certain level of occupation.
The price points are interesting. If I take a 65+ ticket the costs in the main stand are:
Football - £260 for 23 games = £11.30 per game
RL - £150 for 9 games - £16.67 per game
It can't be right that RL is nearly 50% more expensive per game than football on a season ticket and at £17 on the day vs £19 for football it doesn't really promote getting a season ticket.
When you think that not everyone can get to every game, £150 for 8 or 7 games gets well above the on the day ticket price. The economics need looking at there.
The point about alternating use looks to have been adopted now and if you look at February and May there are 14 well spaced out and regular use:
18th February - RAFC vs Gillingham
21st February - RAFC vs Stockport
26th February - Hornets vs London Skolars
4th March - RAFC vs Stevenage
5th March - Hornets vs Doncaster
18th March - RAFC vs Swindon
26th March - Hornets vs Dewsbury Rams
7th April - RAFC vs Walsall
15th April - RAFC vs Bradford
16th April - Hornets vs Workington
18th April - RAFC vs Tranmere
29th April - RAFC vs Sutton
7th May - Hornets vs Crusaders
21st May - Hornets vs Cornwall
There is then nothing at Spotland until 23rd July, presumably so the pitch work gets done. |
Good points well put!! What about the touted Dale multi-club model? Would this be solely football / soccer teams or possibly branch out into local community clubs ie cricket / lacrosse / rugby league / rugby union etc.....?? [Post edited 14 Feb 2023 7:00]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 11:49 - Feb 24 with 4105 views | Plattyswrinklynuts |
Can’t be arsed creating a new thread but good luck to Mayfield in the challenge cup tomorrow. Away at Cornwall, game is live on bbc sport website & iplayer. |  | | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 14:49 - Feb 25 with 3766 views | 100569 |
| Hornets on Sunday on 11:49 - Feb 24 by Plattyswrinklynuts |
Can’t be arsed creating a new thread but good luck to Mayfield in the challenge cup tomorrow. Away at Cornwall, game is live on bbc sport website & iplayer. |
I`m not a rugby league fan , but, congratulations to Rochdale Mayfield on their win in Cornwall. Very well done. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 14:50 - Feb 25 with 3762 views | DaveButt |
| Hornets on Sunday on 11:49 - Feb 24 by Plattyswrinklynuts |
Can’t be arsed creating a new thread but good luck to Mayfield in the challenge cup tomorrow. Away at Cornwall, game is live on bbc sport website & iplayer. |
Match just finished Cornwall 14 Mayfield 20 | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 10:18 - Feb 26 with 3537 views | dingdangblue |
It's on BBCiplayer for anyone interested.
Rugby League: Challenge Cup, 2023: Second Round: Cornwall v Rochdale Mayfield: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0f495c8 via @bbciplayer [Post edited 26 Feb 2023 10:23]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 10:34 - Feb 26 with 3499 views | EllDale |
Never thought this thread would run for 12 months!
There is still the potential for Mayfield v Hornets in the next round in a fortnight. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 15:17 - Feb 26 with 3319 views | Dalenet |
Barely 200 there today to watch them beat London to get through to the 3rd round. Cornwall had over 1000 at their game v Mayfield yesterday. What a sad state the game is in at Hornets level | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 20:31 - Feb 26 with 3101 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 10:34 - Feb 26 by EllDale |
Never thought this thread would run for 12 months!
There is still the potential for Mayfield v Hornets in the next round in a fortnight. |
happened a few years ago…played at Mayfield which hornets won comfortable in the end. But mayfield put on a good show.
Id like to see them avoid each other in round 3 with the chance they could both progress. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:31 - Feb 27 with 2803 views | EllDale |
Both teams away, Hornets at Dewsbury and Mayfield at Leigh Miners.
Shame really, both wanted a home game where they could have made some money. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 07:35 - Feb 28 with 2608 views | joecooke |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:31 - Feb 27 by EllDale |
Both teams away, Hornets at Dewsbury and Mayfield at Leigh Miners.
Shame really, both wanted a home game where they could have made some money. |
Leigh Miners away is a very tough tie for Mayfield. |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 08:05 - Feb 28 with 2590 views | dingdangblue |
| Hornets on Sunday on 07:35 - Feb 28 by joecooke |
Leigh Miners away is a very tough tie for Mayfield. |
They'll have to dig deep, that's for sure. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 10:47 - Feb 28 with 2486 views | joecooke |
| Hornets on Sunday on 08:05 - Feb 28 by dingdangblue |
They'll have to dig deep, that's for sure. |
So it would seam, its hard to pick a winner. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 11:21 - Feb 28 with 2432 views | kel |
Wonder if they have a supporter who reviews away games. |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 13:25 - Feb 28 with 2338 views | isitme |
| Hornets on Sunday on 11:21 - Feb 28 by kel |
Wonder if they have a supporter who reviews away games. |
And posts them on a blog with really small photos? |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 16:49 - Mar 5 with 1924 views | EllDale |
Not sure how many were at the COA today for a 1.00pm kickoff that I hadn’t seen advertised anywhere but Doncaster beat Hornets 20-10.
Donny are probably on paper though the best team in the division. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 16:56 - Mar 5 with 1908 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 16:49 - Mar 5 by EllDale |
Not sure how many were at the COA today for a 1.00pm kickoff that I hadn’t seen advertised anywhere but Doncaster beat Hornets 20-10.
Donny are probably on paper though the best team in the division. |
About 500 there.
Biggest news of the day is that the Hornets CEO has apparently handed in his notice. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 17:06 - Mar 5 with 1863 views | nordenblue |
| Hornets on Sunday on 16:56 - Mar 5 by RAFCBLUE |
About 500 there.
Biggest news of the day is that the Hornets CEO has apparently handed in his notice. |
Be interesting to see what the good old chairman has to say about it..... | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 17:53 - Mar 5 with 1792 views | EllDale |
The chairman is very quiet. I’m not sure if that’s self imposed or not.
The next ten days see IMG unveil to club officials how they recommend that professional rugby league should be completely reconstructed in this country.
A few clubs in League One will be very nervous. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:09 - Mar 5 with 1744 views | nordenblue |
| Hornets on Sunday on 17:53 - Mar 5 by EllDale |
The chairman is very quiet. I’m not sure if that’s self imposed or not.
The next ten days see IMG unveil to club officials how they recommend that professional rugby league should be completely reconstructed in this country.
A few clubs in League One will be very nervous. |
That's a shame, Jerry the Berry has been very quiet recently.
He'd go to the opening of a letter that chap if there's a chance to get his face on something | | | |
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