| Wylfa 11:18 - Jan 17 with 2820 views | Jonathans_coat |
I see Wylfa power plant has been put on “indefinate hold”. Gone the way of the lagoon, and put the entire north wales development deal in jeopardy. Are we really surprised?
Irony is that the gov delayed the announcement that they were pulling thier investment for the lagoon so that they could “bury it” with the Wylfa good news story. Where’s the good news now? Another manifesto pledge gone?
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| Wylfa on 11:25 - Jan 17 with 2807 views | Pegojack |
Another Tory feck up.
I hated Thatcher but one thing you couldn't accuse her of was incompetence.
This government is the biggest bunch of incompetent, greedy, slimy feckwits ever assembled in one place.
Thank you Tory voters, you will be the ones responsible when the country is sitting around it's candles shivering in ten years' time. |  | | |
| Wylfa on 11:25 - Jan 17 with 2802 views | trampie |
Conservatives and Labour are both the same running the UK and particularly Wales into the ground. |  |
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| Wylfa on 13:42 - Jan 17 with 2743 views | londonlisa2001 |
If only the head of Hitachi had given some warning of this, for example, by giving an interview in March 2016, prior to the vote, stating that Hitachi would review all UK investment decisions including Wylfa in the event of the UK leaving the EU and would be likely to remove investment from the country resulting in significant job losses.
Oh wait... |  | | |
| Wylfa on 14:26 - Jan 17 with 2716 views | pikeypaul |
Brexit,innit? |  |
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| Wylfa on 14:28 - Jan 17 with 2715 views | londonlisa2001 |
Obviously pikeypaul knows more about Hitachi’s decision than the head of Hitachi...
They said it would happen “PROJECT FEAR” - it’s happened. | | | |
| Wylfa on 15:04 - Jan 17 with 2691 views | blaenaugwentjack |
Although this is bad news not only for Ynys Mon but Wales, i do think that Wales is perfect for renewable energy scheme,s . Not only the big projects like Swansea bay but, small community scheme,s. The potential for hydro especially are endless. And sa more projects are rolled out, both big and small, costs would reduce. | | | |
| Wylfa on 15:59 - Jan 17 with 2653 views | Batterseajack |
| Wylfa on 15:04 - Jan 17 by blaenaugwentjack |
Although this is bad news not only for Ynys Mon but Wales, i do think that Wales is perfect for renewable energy scheme,s . Not only the big projects like Swansea bay but, small community scheme,s. The potential for hydro especially are endless. And sa more projects are rolled out, both big and small, costs would reduce. |
Well don't expect that to happen any time soon as all of that relies on outside investment coming into our country. | | | |
| Wylfa on 16:39 - Jan 17 with 2632 views | blaenaugwentjack |
| Wylfa on 15:59 - Jan 17 by Batterseajack |
Well don't expect that to happen any time soon as all of that relies on outside investment coming into our country. |
Your correct on the bigger schemes, but small community projects, for example a small hydro unit on a small stream in or near a village or small town, is more than achievable. roll lots of these small schemes out over the country, and a noticable change would be felt. | | | |
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| Wylfa on 17:44 - Jan 17 with 2601 views | Pegojack |
| Wylfa on 16:39 - Jan 17 by blaenaugwentjack |
Your correct on the bigger schemes, but small community projects, for example a small hydro unit on a small stream in or near a village or small town, is more than achievable. roll lots of these small schemes out over the country, and a noticable change would be felt. |
What is needed is nationalisation of the energy generation and distribution industry so that it can be correctly planned and funded in the interests of the people of Britain, not in the interests of shareholders of foreign private companies (the only country in Europe where this is allowed to happen, by the way). | | | |
| Wylfa on 17:51 - Jan 17 with 2593 views | LeonWasGod |
| Wylfa on 17:44 - Jan 17 by Pegojack |
What is needed is nationalisation of the energy generation and distribution industry so that it can be correctly planned and funded in the interests of the people of Britain, not in the interests of shareholders of foreign private companies (the only country in Europe where this is allowed to happen, by the way). |
I think so. None of it happens without significant government subsidies or loans in any case. ~£8-10bn of public money gets siphoned into the oild & gas industry every year already, with god knows how much of that ending up in the pockets of overseas shareholders/owners. |  | | |
| Wylfa on 18:26 - Jan 17 with 2567 views | Kilkennyjack |
The Tory government does not care about wales. Fact.
An independent Wales would lead the world in renewable energy.
Wind, rain, and sea aplenty.
Tidal lagoon
Nuclear power on ynys mon
Electrification of rail
Military Academy
Circuit of Wales
All screwed over. B@st@rds. Vermin. |  |
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| Wylfa on 20:48 - Jan 17 with 2526 views | dickythorpe |
Wales - closed for business. |  | | |
| Wylfa on 21:18 - Jan 17 with 2515 views | PentyrchJack |
| Wylfa on 11:25 - Jan 17 by trampie |
Conservatives and Labour are both the same running the UK and particularly Wales into the ground. |
I thought Plaid was against nuclear Trampie? Thought you would agree with them pulling out? |  |
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| Wylfa on 21:57 - Jan 17 with 2500 views | Jonathans_coat |
| Wylfa on 18:26 - Jan 17 by Kilkennyjack |
The Tory government does not care about wales. Fact.
An independent Wales would lead the world in renewable energy.
Wind, rain, and sea aplenty.
Tidal lagoon
Nuclear power on ynys mon
Electrification of rail
Military Academy
Circuit of Wales
All screwed over. B@st@rds. Vermin. |
BBC Wales news reporter put that list to Alun Cairns earlier, describing it as a record of failure to deliver on large scale investment and infrastructure projects.
His response was that they were going to invest £1.3 Billion in the M4 relief road, and Wales gets more funding per person than England anyway, so we should all be thanking him and his Tories for all they’ve done for us.
What a massive arrogant “see you next Tuesday” | | | |
| Wylfa on 22:05 - Jan 17 with 2494 views | longlostjack |
| Wylfa on 17:44 - Jan 17 by Pegojack |
What is needed is nationalisation of the energy generation and distribution industry so that it can be correctly planned and funded in the interests of the people of Britain, not in the interests of shareholders of foreign private companies (the only country in Europe where this is allowed to happen, by the way). |
Hamburg renationalised it’s electricity grid following a referendum in 2013! Very popular and a big improvement on the old corporates who were ripping the city off. |  |
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| Wylfa on 22:59 - Jan 17 with 2465 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Wylfa on 21:57 - Jan 17 by Jonathans_coat |
BBC Wales news reporter put that list to Alun Cairns earlier, describing it as a record of failure to deliver on large scale investment and infrastructure projects.
His response was that they were going to invest £1.3 Billion in the M4 relief road, and Wales gets more funding per person than England anyway, so we should all be thanking him and his Tories for all they’ve done for us.
What a massive arrogant “see you next Tuesday” |
Great post.
Alun Cairns is the worst living Welshman.
The only thing he has delivered was the renamed bridge, that only he wanted renamed. Wâš“ï¸. | |
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| Wylfa on 00:20 - Jan 18 with 2434 views | DJack |
| Wylfa on 16:39 - Jan 17 by blaenaugwentjack |
Your correct on the bigger schemes, but small community projects, for example a small hydro unit on a small stream in or near a village or small town, is more than achievable. roll lots of these small schemes out over the country, and a noticable change would be felt. |
The National Grid is not designed in a way to make that quite so feasible. They would (do) need to make the grid a distributable grid with "local" energy storage/distribution capabilities...Think giga-batteries and molten salts storage etc. |  |
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| Wylfa on 00:27 - Jan 18 with 2431 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Wylfa on 17:51 - Jan 17 by LeonWasGod |
I think so. None of it happens without significant government subsidies or loans in any case. ~£8-10bn of public money gets siphoned into the oild & gas industry every year already, with god knows how much of that ending up in the pockets of overseas shareholders/owners. |
Probably between £8 and £10 billion I'd take a stab at Leon. Rough guess... |  |
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| Wylfa on 00:47 - Jan 18 with 2420 views | majorraglan |
| Wylfa on 17:44 - Jan 17 by Pegojack |
What is needed is nationalisation of the energy generation and distribution industry so that it can be correctly planned and funded in the interests of the people of Britain, not in the interests of shareholders of foreign private companies (the only country in Europe where this is allowed to happen, by the way). |
Spot on.
There is a big shift taking place away from fossil fuels, diesel and petrol cars are being discouraged, electric trains and cars are being encouraged. Our power generating infrastructure is aging, we are already importing electricity and with demand going up there is going to come a time when demand outstrips supply. You can’t develop a significant generating capacity overnight, it takes time to identify sites, buy them, design power stations, secure planning permission, get the tenders and contractors sorted, order the building material and technical kit and then build the things. There may also be a need to build pylons etc.
This stuff can’t be done overnight and needs proper planning, it needs central government oversight and not be left to market forces. | | | |
| Wylfa on 15:18 - Jan 18 with 2300 views | controversial_jack |
| Wylfa on 00:47 - Jan 18 by majorraglan |
Spot on.
There is a big shift taking place away from fossil fuels, diesel and petrol cars are being discouraged, electric trains and cars are being encouraged. Our power generating infrastructure is aging, we are already importing electricity and with demand going up there is going to come a time when demand outstrips supply. You can’t develop a significant generating capacity overnight, it takes time to identify sites, buy them, design power stations, secure planning permission, get the tenders and contractors sorted, order the building material and technical kit and then build the things. There may also be a need to build pylons etc.
This stuff can’t be done overnight and needs proper planning, it needs central government oversight and not be left to market forces. |
There is no real alternative to fossil fuels. Wind, solar, tidal, can't supply the demand and too expensive as well. Nuclear is too expensive. | | | |
| Wylfa on 17:03 - Jan 18 with 2267 views | slate_dk |
Well some good news then:
- Besides the small matter of a brexit vote; this week the English goverment finally approved the viking link cable to Denmark... took them 2 years longer than the Danish goverment.
- Here in Denmark, on average 45% of the electricity used comes from wind/solar... mainly wind of cause; that percentage is getting higher for each year as new offshore parks are added.
- Wind and solar are now cheaper than coal; besides the health benefit. Admittedly wind is of more interest in our part of the world and United Kingdom/Ireland have so much coastline so there are few excuses.
Disclaimer; I have been working in the wind industry for two years (programmer) and have had solar for 6+ years… no electricity bills for me ;-) | | | |
| Wylfa on 19:42 - Jan 18 with 2240 views | controversial_jack |
| Wylfa on 17:03 - Jan 18 by slate_dk |
Well some good news then:
- Besides the small matter of a brexit vote; this week the English goverment finally approved the viking link cable to Denmark... took them 2 years longer than the Danish goverment.
- Here in Denmark, on average 45% of the electricity used comes from wind/solar... mainly wind of cause; that percentage is getting higher for each year as new offshore parks are added.
- Wind and solar are now cheaper than coal; besides the health benefit. Admittedly wind is of more interest in our part of the world and United Kingdom/Ireland have so much coastline so there are few excuses.
Disclaimer; I have been working in the wind industry for two years (programmer) and have had solar for 6+ years… no electricity bills for me ;-) |
Hasn't Denmark got a population of 5 million compared to the UK of 65 million? | | | |
| Wylfa on 20:11 - Jan 18 with 2229 views | majorraglan |
| Wylfa on 15:18 - Jan 18 by controversial_jack |
There is no real alternative to fossil fuels. Wind, solar, tidal, can't supply the demand and too expensive as well. Nuclear is too expensive. |
I appreciate that Nuclear is expensive and I would rather not have it, but fossil fuels won’t last here for ever. What we need is a clear coherent strategy from Central Government to meet the challenges ahead, something we dont seem to have at the moment. | | | |
| Wylfa on 14:59 - Jan 19 with 2135 views | slate_dk |
| Wylfa on 19:42 - Jan 18 by controversial_jack |
Hasn't Denmark got a population of 5 million compared to the UK of 65 million? |
well 5,77 million; so yes it is easier to implement, but as such the investment is proportional | | | |
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