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Washington 09:33 - Aug 31 with 19708 views

Joining Sheffield Utd on a season long loan. They made a goalscorer at this level out of Leon Clarke so anything is possible.

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Washington on 13:40 - Aug 31 with 2962 views

Spaghetti_Hoops

Washington on 12:30 - Aug 31 by 100percent

I agree with this.
he has been allowed to play in every conceivable formation and yet he still looks nothing like a professional footballer. Running around a lot and being in the wrong place at the wrong time, does not a footballer make. those half hearted attempts at challenging a defender or goalkeeper particularly irk with me.
Never one to boo or hiss a QPR player, but it's been really difficult to hold back on vocal criticism.... definitely not sad to see him go....

This is how I felt about him.

The idea that he was a grafter is debatable. The challenges and attempts to head the ball were invariably half-hearted. If he looked like getting a challenge in he usually slowed down and arrived too late. Defenders were rarely hurried. For all his running about the opposition could basically ignore Washington. I had seen enough by November 2016 following a particularly inept display at Nottingham Forest. Every time he has been selected since has been a waste of a place in the team, as far as I'm concerned. A huge waste.

Washington on 14:05 - Aug 31 with 2868 views

paulparker

Washington on 13:30 - Aug 31 by WestbourneR

No big head, it was obvious. He is totally out of his depth. I'll be amazed if even Chris Wilder can coax goals out of him at this level.

Cons
- Not actually quick at all, particularly over more than 3 to 5 yards. Rovers CBs matched him.
- No tricks or dribbling skills, can only cut in his right and easily telegraphed by any half decent defender. Never feints.
- Short, no hold up game
- Doesn't strike shots cleanly, with power or accuracy.
- Can't head
- Can't read the play
- Poor movement

Pros
- Works incredibly hard
- Runs the channels
- Decent(ish) cross
- Decent(sih) touch

Ian Holloway mistakenly wasted A LOT of time saying 'there is a good striker in there' - including changing our formation to give him a target man.

I think it's very clear Les Ferdinand has no eye for player too.

I think it's very clear Les Ferdinand has no eye for player too.

Duds
Gladwin (although never given a chance imo)
EL kayaute (sp) (JFH recommendation )
Toszer
Angella
Washington
Goss
Konschesky
Perch
Lynch
sorry the other polish lad whose name escapes me

Pros
Eze (could net the club 20 million )
Smithies
Luango
Scowen
Chery
Polter
Sylla ( I still think there is a player there , decent goal scorer for 850k )
Hall (bar injury he would have been sold for millions)
Ingram (decent just having bad confidence issues , but he was very highly rated )
Bidwell (solid if unspectacular, doesn't miss games )
Manning (again could net the club millions in the future )
smyth (as above)
Freeman (will net the club millions in jan)
Pavel
Smith ( a steal in todays market )

I would say Les has got more right than wrong whilst being DOF at least we aint riddled with a sandro or a caulker on 50k a week , if Eze comes through he could go for serious money , just him alone justifies Les being here , it doesn't help when he is undermined by that Idiot TF and his clueless board mates

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

Washington on 14:28 - Aug 31 with 2780 views

cyprusmel

Nasser El Khayati playing in the Dutch top league is now a 1 in 3 goalscorer.

Washington on 14:36 - Aug 31 with 2747 views

CamberleyR

Washington on 14:28 - Aug 31 by cyprusmel
Nasser El Khayati playing in the Dutch top league is now a 1 in 3 goalscorer.

I think that says more about the standard of the Dutch league to be honest.

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Washington on 14:58 - Aug 31 with 2646 views

blacky200

Washington on 14:05 - Aug 31 by paulparker

This exactly. Some players work out some don't (especially when you are buying a player from the lower leagues).

Washington on 15:23 - Aug 31 with 2558 views

08olesen

Hopefully this means that Sylla stays. Good luck to CW.

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Who will the other play off

Washington on 15:52 - Aug 31 with 2482 views

GroveR

Washington on 13:10 - Aug 31 by YorkRanger

My view is that it didn't work out, however his form at Peterborough suggested it was a good buy - whether the price was right is another matter.

Personally I've always thought he has a good attitude and works hard. Some of the football we have played hasn't helped him, but equally I don't think he has that killer striker instinct.

Now watch him go and score a hatful of goals for Sheff Utd. I wish him well

Peterborough had a saleable player, set a price, we agreed the player had sufficient potential to realise that price and paid it. That he never realised the potential is a gamble we've made and lost.

We could say Peterborough pulled our pants down but it's astute transfer business on their part and something we should be looking to emulate with Eze and dare I say Manning should they fulfil the potential that has other clubs looking at them.

Washington on 16:10 - Aug 31 with 2413 views

TacticalR

Washington on 14:36 - Aug 31 by CamberleyR
I think that says more about the standard of the Dutch league to be honest.

Yes, we're not talking about the Cruyff days.

Air hostess clique

Washington on 16:25 - Aug 31 with 2365 views

Shunter

BBC are saying that his contact has been terminated, not on loan but a permanent move,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45366416

Washington on 16:28 - Aug 31 with 2353 views

Esox_Lucius

Perch, Borysiuk & El Khayati were all decent players, we just didn't utilise them the best way, I agree with the other "duds".
We still have quite a large squad, albeit with a lot more youngsters coming through from below, so I would say we are still in a fairly healthy position wrt the team.
I believe that if SMC had not been written off before the season started by so many AND the fans were a little more tolerant of the early defeats that we wouldn't be seeing all these experienced old pros coming in and the youth would be given a lot more first team chances. It isn't surprising that SMC wants to hold on to his job and has had to change what was planned to something more expedient.

The grass is always greener.

Washington on 16:37 - Aug 31 with 2304 views

PunteR

Washington on 16:28 - Aug 31 by Esox_Lucius

Just didnt work out for him here. Likable lad and we seem to give him plenty of chances but he didn't improve while with us. It will be interesting to see how he does in Sheffield .

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Washington on 00:39 - Sep 1 with 2034 views

DannyPaddox

Washington on 00:57 - Sep 1 with 2023 views

BazzaInTheLoft

Washington on 14:05 - Aug 31 by paulparker

A lot in the CON column are good players who have done well before or after they arrived but have been horrendously managed.

If my managers changed every 6 to 18 months id probably be a bit demotivated or lack confidence too.

Did you mean Ariel Borysiuk? I thought he was alright minus that Brighton game where he kept air tackling.

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Washington on 04:13 - Sep 1 with 1967 views

PlanetHonneywood

In summary: Washington tried really hard, but wasn’t a goal scorer.

He also wasn’t a cnt, like countless others before him. For that, we wish him well.

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Washington on 08:03 - Sep 1 with 1843 views

TGRRRSSS

Many above are from the era where we're trying to manage the club correctly and get value for playters "hungry young lads" as Ollie put it a while back.

The trouble is not all will make it at a particularly club and whilst there's value to be had lower down it will be a gamble, El Kyattie is a good example of you can see why they did it, BUT he for whatever reason didnt make it with us.

One issue I guess with turn over of managers and players is not really finding a style and of course the old classic, playing a player in their correct position. In any event will be interesting to nsee how Washington goes at a Sheff United.

On Ingram I think where he suffered was he went from playing week in week out at Wycombe developing his career to getting a move to a bigger club but sitting on the bench at Rangers has hindered development, I think partly this is explained by Smithies in that I think the club expected to sell him much earlier than they did, possibly by the summer of 2016 (He came from WW in Jan 2016) as a result Ingram didn't get the game time in the next 2 and a half seasons, potentially 100 odd games of experience he wasn't picking up and learning at a crucial time for a young keeper, especially 1 who was first team at his past club and was developing well at the time.
He may not be good enough and Lumley may well be better but Ingram has in many ways been unfortunate in terms of how the trajectory went following his move to QPR.

Washington on 08:08 - Sep 1 with 1834 views

Metallica_Hoop

I forgot about him or that he played for us. (Nasser El Khayati forgot to quote)

Washington did put some effort in so I wish him the best.

I bet if playing against us he scores.

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Washington on 09:35 - Sep 1 with 1737 views

qprphil

To be fair to the bloke, I think if he had some better players around him playing to his strengths, ( speed ) balls through the channels, we may have seen a different player. Many goal scorers do well at one club, but not at another. He's not like a Smith, lump it in the middle and he'll get a few with his head which ever team he plays for. Shef Utd style of play may suit him better, time will tell.

Washington on 10:39 - Sep 1 with 1663 views

westberksr

Washington on 12:30 - Aug 31 by 100percent

something akin to this.....

as a centre back you'd look at him and only need half an eye on him. His CV read nippy goalscorer with pace and potential; but the reality was we saw more aggression from ickle Smyth, more goals from Sylla and no hold up play.

Sat watching from the Upper Loft you'd repeatedly see him look to close or tackle a defender and not once leave a foot in or a proper tackle; just looked to be going through the motions without any real effect & he's got a bit of bulk to him. Also with his lack of individual skill or hold up play the ball came straight back at us far too quickly; we saw how much of a difference that made last week with the loanees and being able to bring midfielders into play & actually give opposition something to think about.

Also gave away lots of stupid fouls when supposedly chasing down defenders; thought it right to give a stupid shove in the back. Just not a very good, brave or overly quick player; keep thinking I must be seeing something wrong for managers (particularly Ollie) stick with him when there were worthy alternatives that could have had a go (BOS, Smyth, me!)

Probably a nice guy & seems to want to do ok but just not up to it or simply didn't fit with us.

Washington on 11:20 - Sep 1 with 1607 views

BklynRanger

Washington on 04:13 - Sep 1 by PlanetHonneywood
In summary: Washington tried really hard, but wasn’t a goal scorer. He also wasn’t a cnt, like countless others before him. For that, we wish him well.

Indeed. Good luck Connor*

*But don't bother turning up at LR suddenly playing like Dennis Bergkamp - that would not be big or clever...

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