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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh 14:32 - Aug 29 with 7537 viewsthornabyswan

All 3 players have indicated they would like to stay.
Could any be deployed as a central midfielder or back up striker at a push.
[Post edited 29 Aug 2018 14:33]

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:03 - Aug 29 with 1680 viewsElward

I remember when people said Naughton would do okay in the championship and look how that's turning out. The same will happen to Routledge, if he's given the chance.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:10 - Aug 29 with 1661 viewsA_Fans_Dad

I seem to remember Clement had Narsingh training to play attacking Mid or Striker, he played a couple of games with the U23s for practice.
So he may have a role to play if they don't offload him.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:10 - Aug 29 with 1657 viewsjasper_T

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:10 - Aug 29 by A_Fans_Dad

I seem to remember Clement had Narsingh training to play attacking Mid or Striker, he played a couple of games with the U23s for practice.
So he may have a role to play if they don't offload him.


Was he any good at it, though?
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:18 - Aug 29 with 1629 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:10 - Aug 29 by jasper_T

Was he any good at it, though?


Well he did manage to score 2 goals in 37 appearances for us, but also scored 29 in 163 for PSV.
So he does know where the goal is.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:23 - Aug 29 with 1599 viewsJango

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:03 - Aug 29 by Elward

I remember when people said Naughton would do okay in the championship and look how that's turning out. The same will happen to Routledge, if he's given the chance.


The only game naughton has played in the championship was against Leeds and it was by far our best team performance and he played well. Naughton will be an important player this year, Routledge sadly will never be an important player for us again.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:23 - Aug 29 with 1599 viewsangryjack

All three of them offer a lot more than asoro who at his best is league 2
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:25 - Aug 29 with 1594 viewsDewi1jack

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:10 - Aug 29 by pencoedjack

Can’t see Routs playing as a central midfielder personally, both him & Dyer should never have been given new PL contracts although I agree Dyer could be utilised in the current squad.

Narsingh has just been shite


We changed Mark "I can't outrun Brendan even though he had knackered knees" Gower from a winger to a central midfielder.
Don't see why we can't try and do the same with Routs.

Please before anyone bites my head off.
We're desperate for any sort of depth and options in the squad.
Basically when the inevitable injuries and suspensions start, I'd rather have the experience of Routs than the raw energy of an Under 18's player

If you wake up breathing, thats a good start to your day and you'll make many thousands of people envious.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:26 - Aug 29 with 1589 viewsElward

Point i was making was he ended up losing his place to someone who actually wants to try and isn't lazy.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:41 - Aug 29 with 1549 viewsjasper_T

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:25 - Aug 29 by Dewi1jack

We changed Mark "I can't outrun Brendan even though he had knackered knees" Gower from a winger to a central midfielder.
Don't see why we can't try and do the same with Routs.

Please before anyone bites my head off.
We're desperate for any sort of depth and options in the squad.
Basically when the inevitable injuries and suspensions start, I'd rather have the experience of Routs than the raw energy of an Under 18's player


Why would you try to convert a 33 year old who can't pass or tackle into a central role? What "experience of Routledge" are you trying to capture? He's never been a leader/organiser.

Is a couple of weeks practice in midfield going to be of more value than u23s players who have played the role week in week out for years?

He's was fcking dire there in preseason.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 21:02 - Aug 29 with 1513 viewsmajorraglan

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 19:55 - Aug 29 by swan65split

I think they are trying to get rid/force them out, but as its early yet, and atm not much seems to be happening on the incoming side, I would like them to stay, they may be able to do a job in this league,,,,,,,,and we may need them.


This may be right. I believe I read on here the club were looking to off load them in an effort to reduce the wage bill and that the players were holding out looking for payments to move, so it may be there is some substance to this. I read about something similar happening in Sunderland where apparently an agent was looking to have a players contract paid up in full before he moved.

If they are still here after transfer deadline will the club play them?
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 21:28 - Aug 29 with 1448 viewsJango

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:25 - Aug 29 by Dewi1jack

We changed Mark "I can't outrun Brendan even though he had knackered knees" Gower from a winger to a central midfielder.
Don't see why we can't try and do the same with Routs.

Please before anyone bites my head off.
We're desperate for any sort of depth and options in the squad.
Basically when the inevitable injuries and suspensions start, I'd rather have the experience of Routs than the raw energy of an Under 18's player


This topic is getting more bizarre by the hour.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 21:29 - Aug 29 with 1440 viewskarnataka

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 17:36 - Aug 29 by jasper_T

I don't understand people pining for these three when we've got McKay, James and Dhanda all looking promising at a fraction of the price.

It was a mistake to give Dyer and Routledge new deals when we did, and an even bigger mistake to hold onto them now when they'd still only be backups to younger, cheaper alternatives.


I haven't seen anyone suggest any of them should play ahead of the 3 you mentioned, just Asoro who has generally been substandard. The point most are making is that we are threadbare and need more players who won't be coming in so we need to make the best of what we will have on the books when the loan window slams shut. And I don't think anyone is pining for them ffs, we all know we need better.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 22:50 - Aug 29 with 1368 viewsswan65split

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 21:02 - Aug 29 by majorraglan

This may be right. I believe I read on here the club were looking to off load them in an effort to reduce the wage bill and that the players were holding out looking for payments to move, so it may be there is some substance to this. I read about something similar happening in Sunderland where apparently an agent was looking to have a players contract paid up in full before he moved.

If they are still here after transfer deadline will the club play them?


Probably depends on how we pan out in September, theres a long way to go and some tough games ahead.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 23:36 - Aug 29 with 1309 viewsDJack

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 21:29 - Aug 29 by karnataka

I haven't seen anyone suggest any of them should play ahead of the 3 you mentioned, just Asoro who has generally been substandard. The point most are making is that we are threadbare and need more players who won't be coming in so we need to make the best of what we will have on the books when the loan window slams shut. And I don't think anyone is pining for them ffs, we all know we need better.


Don't confuse them with facts, please.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 10:26 - Aug 30 with 1193 viewsjasonbromham

Wow this thread! All 3 are not good enough, McKay has show more than all 3 of these have in years. Asoro hasn't been great but are people forgetting that he is only 19 years old! Stupid thread Dyer is okay, Routledge is now terrible and Narsingh looks like he is stuck in quick sand 99% of them time.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 10:45 - Aug 30 with 1153 viewsawayjack

Wow - shock that players earning £1.5m + each per annum want to stay because nobody else is stupid enough to pay that much for them. How many good performances have any of them put in on last two seasons? 5 or 6 between the 3 of them? Not good enough even for this league.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 11:08 - Aug 30 with 1114 viewssdh1412

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:23 - Aug 29 by Jango

The only game naughton has played in the championship was against Leeds and it was by far our best team performance and he played well. Naughton will be an important player this year, Routledge sadly will never be an important player for us again.


Except that for the umpteenth time he let an opponent drift in behind him and score a goal.
I watched Naughton closely last year and he is not a good defender. He has absolutely no awareness of what is around him, he doesn't communicate with any other players to warn them of danger etc. At full back he is incapable of stopping crosses coming in. He just sticks out a leg and half turns his back.
Yes he had a better game against Leeds but that was as part of a back 3 and he was culpable for the first goal. The only improvement I saw was that he can now throw a ball down the line and not hold onto it for ages with no idea what to do next ala last season.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 11:15 - Aug 30 with 1098 viewsjasper_T

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 11:08 - Aug 30 by sdh1412

Except that for the umpteenth time he let an opponent drift in behind him and score a goal.
I watched Naughton closely last year and he is not a good defender. He has absolutely no awareness of what is around him, he doesn't communicate with any other players to warn them of danger etc. At full back he is incapable of stopping crosses coming in. He just sticks out a leg and half turns his back.
Yes he had a better game against Leeds but that was as part of a back 3 and he was culpable for the first goal. The only improvement I saw was that he can now throw a ball down the line and not hold onto it for ages with no idea what to do next ala last season.


We didn't play with a back three against Leeds.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 11:47 - Aug 30 with 1065 viewshobo

Don't forget, when we should have been looking to replace Dyer and Routledge, we instead decided to offer them 4 (!) year and 2 year extensions! Utter incompetence
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 12:00 - Aug 30 with 1037 viewshammy

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 20:41 - Aug 29 by jasper_T

Why would you try to convert a 33 year old who can't pass or tackle into a central role? What "experience of Routledge" are you trying to capture? He's never been a leader/organiser.

Is a couple of weeks practice in midfield going to be of more value than u23s players who have played the role week in week out for years?

He's was fcking dire there in preseason.


Based on last Tuesday's game Byers would be a far better option in midfield.

C'mon Bony shoot !!!!

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 12:11 - Aug 30 with 1022 viewsjasper_T

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 12:00 - Aug 30 by hammy

Based on last Tuesday's game Byers would be a far better option in midfield.


But he's never been on MotD, mun, how can he possibly be better than a past-it Wayne Routledge playing in an unfamiliar position he's never shown any aptitude for?

Byers was starting to break through into Watford's Championship side before they got promoted and spending went through the roof. And he's a lot better than he was when he arrived here (works harder for sure).
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 12:12 - Aug 30 with 1016 viewsLeonWasGod

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 11:47 - Aug 30 by hobo

Don't forget, when we should have been looking to replace Dyer and Routledge, we instead decided to offer them 4 (!) year and 2 year extensions! Utter incompetence


At least that means we'd have them to fall back on if we were ever relegated....
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 12:13 - Aug 30 with 1012 viewsjack_lord

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 11:47 - Aug 30 by hobo

Don't forget, when we should have been looking to replace Dyer and Routledge, we instead decided to offer them 4 (!) year and 2 year extensions! Utter incompetence


Absolutely. One more of the truly awful decisions made at board level that showed no foresight for the future. In fact, if we got relegated we would end up with players at the end of their careers stacking up pension funds with no desire. That is not an attack on our players it is a hard fact of any footballers life.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 12:35 - Aug 30 with 973 viewsswanforthemoney

If Dyer rather than Asoro had started against the Worzels we would have beaten them. Simples.
Routledge finds the opposition with a pass, or loses the ball in the dribble. Let him go or pay him off.
Narsingh might be OK at this level, but Dyer has proved his worth at his level and his loyalty and is well settled here. On this basis, let Narsingh go too.

I stand in the North Stand

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 12:37 - Aug 30 with 968 viewskarnataka

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 11:47 - Aug 30 by hobo

Don't forget, when we should have been looking to replace Dyer and Routledge, we instead decided to offer them 4 (!) year and 2 year extensions! Utter incompetence


I don't agree with this. We didn't offer them extensions when we should have been looking to replace them, we offered them extensions 2 years after we should have been looking to replace them.
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