| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours 07:43 - May 21 with 6450 views | Starsky |
Stoke beat us to the signing of Joe Allen, signed Berahino, Ramadan Sobhi and had the luxury of having Bony on a season loan. The total outlay for this seasons signings is in excess of £34million.
Bony's only goals were against us. Berahino has even got a league goal yet.
If we win and Stoke lose today, we finish level on 41 points. Stoke haven't really been relegation candidates whilst we've just performed another great escape this season. The Swans are only the second club to escape relegation whilst being bottom at Christmas in a Premier league history.
So despite Stoke having Allen & Bony (2 players a lot on here would love to see back at the Liberty)
They've had a dissapointing season. I guess Stoke are pissed off with Mark Hughes, whilst Paul Clement is a hero. Massive contrasts in the feelgood factor of both clubs' set of fans.
So my questions to this forum are:
1: which club has most underperformed/underachieved this season? stoke or Swansea?
2: which club is more likely best equipped to avoid the drop next season?
3: who is the best Manager to achieve this for their clubs? Hughes or Clement?
4: which of these 2 clubs wasted the most money on the transfer market?
Discuss? [Post edited 21 May 2017 7:45]
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 07:53 - May 21 with 5493 views | Whiterockin |
And if Stoke win and we lose there is a six point gap. Stoke could finish in 11th.
We have also spent about £30M on players this season. |  | | |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 07:55 - May 21 with 5486 views | Treforys_Jack |
Would like to see Mark Hughes sacked, great footballer horrible manager. |  | | |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 07:55 - May 21 with 5485 views | pikeypaul |
1. We were not bottom at Christmas
2. 3 clubs in EPL history have survived having been
bottom at Christmas
3.We have not beaten WBA yet
4 Stoke have not lost today and could well finish
six points above us.
5. Who has the best squad?
6. Who has a chairman and owners prepared to spend and
take the clubs to "the next level"? and I mean upwards. |  |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 08:00 - May 21 with 5470 views | Dr_Winston |
Stoke have underperformed this season no doubt about it considering the players at Hughes's disposal. |  |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 08:06 - May 21 with 5459 views | raynor94 |
Also Stoke signed Giannelli Imbula for a record 18 million and he has turned out to be a disaster they are desperate to get rid of, big season coming up for Hughes |  |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 08:30 - May 21 with 5375 views | jack247 |
1. Swansea - Stoke have had a mildly disappointing season. They are a mid table team likely to finish in mid table, whereas this board was like a manic depressants jamboree a few weeks ago. We have had two excellent mini runs under Clement that have masked how bad the season was before his arrival
2. Stoke
3. Clement
4. Hard to say - I'm guessing the £34m total outlay is a net spend rather than total spend? We spent more than that if it's not. With the obvious exception of Borja and arguably Narsingh, I wouldn't say we wasted our money. Llorente, Mawson, Olsson, Carrol and Ayew have all had a positive impact. |  | | |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 08:41 - May 21 with 5341 views | Kilkennyjack |
Stoke have the stronger squad.
Stoke have enjoyed their season.
Hughes - great player - is an average manager at the very best. |  |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:10 - May 21 with 5239 views | Jackanapes |
Table never makes sense until 38 games. Its the same every year mind. |  |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:12 - May 21 with 5227 views | Jackanapes |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 08:41 - May 21 by Kilkennyjack |
Stoke have the stronger squad.
Stoke have enjoyed their season.
Hughes - great player - is an average manager at the very best. |
Yes but Stoke haven't enjoyed the last month as much as us and they certainly didn't enjoy the first three months either. Enjoyed their season be fkd. People don't half write some shyte aye. | |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:13 - May 21 with 5221 views | raynor94 |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 08:41 - May 21 by Kilkennyjack |
Stoke have the stronger squad.
Stoke have enjoyed their season.
Hughes - great player - is an average manager at the very best. |
Reading their board I wouldn't say they have enjoyed it, six wins at home all season, we have actually won more games than them | |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:14 - May 21 with 5210 views | Jackanapes |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:13 - May 21 by raynor94 |
Reading their board I wouldn't say they have enjoyed it, six wins at home all season, we have actually won more games than them |
Innit. Fking looneys on here. | |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:15 - May 21 with 5192 views | jack247 |
As far as I'm concerned, we were one missed penalty away from having a very much worse season than Stoke. | | | |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:17 - May 21 with 5199 views | Jackanapes |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:15 - May 21 by jack247 |
As far as I'm concerned, we were one missed penalty away from having a very much worse season than Stoke. |
We were only 43 goals away from not scoring once all season as far as I'm concerned. Its not good enough. | |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:20 - May 21 with 5184 views | monmouth |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:13 - May 21 by raynor94 |
Reading their board I wouldn't say they have enjoyed it, six wins at home all season, we have actually won more games than them |
They've served up a load of old horseshit this season. They're lucky they caught us at our most bobbley or the positions might well have been reversed. Ditto Ham.
Two formerly decent clubs in my younger days (Dobing, Eastham, Banks, Hurst, Devonshire etc) are now disgusting cesspits.
Hope both go down next year taking Hughes, Bowen, Brady and Porno with them.
Thank god for marko arnoutovic though. My favourite ever stokie. |  |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:22 - May 21 with 5150 views | jack247 |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:17 - May 21 by Jackanapes |
We were only 43 goals away from not scoring once all season as far as I'm concerned. Its not good enough. |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:47 - May 21 with 5074 views | Pegojack |
I've always admired Arnautovic and wished he'd signed for us, but boy did he come through for us when it mattered!
I thought Hughes was a good judge of a player, but was mystified with his decision to sign Berahino, who I think has a stinking attitude and is vastly over-rated. |  | | |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 10:55 - May 21 with 4927 views | MrSwerve |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 07:55 - May 21 by Treforys_Jack |
Would like to see Mark Hughes sacked, great footballer horrible manager. |
That's exactly why I'd like to see him stay with them.  |  |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 13:15 - May 21 with 4729 views | Starsky |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:15 - May 21 by jack247 |
As far as I'm concerned, we were one missed penalty away from having a very much worse season than Stoke. |
Those swings and roundabouts were very much against us for the most of the season. | |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 13:26 - May 21 with 4711 views | Starsky |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 07:55 - May 21 by pikeypaul |
1. We were not bottom at Christmas
2. 3 clubs in EPL history have survived having been
bottom at Christmas
3.We have not beaten WBA yet
4 Stoke have not lost today and could well finish
six points above us.
5. Who has the best squad?
6. Who has a chairman and owners prepared to spend and
take the clubs to "the next level"? and I mean upwards. |
You've just trashed my opening debate 😂
I must have meant bottom at New Years 😉
With your 6th point... Stoke didn't go to the next level despite spending loads. | |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 13:56 - May 21 with 4638 views | pikeypaul |
My 6th point was in reply to your 2nd. | |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 14:05 - May 21 with 4626 views | dobjack2 |
Both have underperformed although because we are the ones that were in relegation do doo we underperformed most.
Both sides were looking to push on up the table Stoke had a meh season and ours was squeaky bum time.
Best equipped to avoid the drop - wait until the end of the transfer window
Clement
Both teams have had big money flops This season. Wasted most depends on berahino- if he doesn't come off then it is Stoke. Our problem over a number of windows has been buying too much squad filler and not getting quality upgrades for the starting 11. | | | |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 14:06 - May 21 with 4624 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 09:12 - May 21 by Jackanapes |
Yes but Stoke haven't enjoyed the last month as much as us and they certainly didn't enjoy the first three months either. Enjoyed their season be fkd. People don't half write some shyte aye. |
Sorry mate - will check with you before posting an opinion next time.
Oh yes - and feck off you smug tw@t. | |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 14:13 - May 21 with 4611 views | Jackanapes |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 14:06 - May 21 by Kilkennyjack |
Sorry mate - will check with you before posting an opinion next time.
Oh yes - and feck off you smug tw@t. |
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| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 14:25 - May 21 with 4580 views | Sospan_Fach |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 13:15 - May 21 by Starsky |
Those swings and roundabouts were very much against us for the most of the season. |
We played Leicester just before they sacked Ranieri, and we beat Liverpool away, 5-4 v Palace. Things could so easily have gone against us. |  | | |
| Stoke City ... season comparison to ours on 17:20 - May 21 with 4447 views | KulusBeatFactory |
1. Overall, Stoke - showed much promise and exciting brand from the outset which ultimately flattered to deceive
2. On a par, Swans winning it due to PC confidence
3.PC
4. ?
Glad Im a SwansCFC - not a StokeCFC - by a country mile | | | |
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