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I know that many of you do not think well of Theresa [edit: Thanks PhactOrri and other posters] May, but I truly hope that you will put aside as you read my post.
I watched her 32-minute speech to the U.S. Republican Congressional retreat in Philadelphia earlier today.
I recommend it to you.
She was very well received, with many interruptions for applause, and not a few for standing ovations, as she painted a word picture of the long-standing relationship between our two countries. And, without mentioning our previous president's having allowed that relationship to wither [at least], she made a strong appeal for a renewal of it [standing ovation].
Not only do I not believe the oft-repeated notion as completely false that the United States treats the United Kingdom as an inferior, I am offended that we are so demeaned. Both our countries, by the way.
In all my life, I have never heard a single word about our relationship except positive ones. I believe and know that she described the American view of that relationship with 100% accuracy.
Her speech and the congressmen and congresswomen are well worth your time and effort.
P.S., did your media point out that one of the very first acts of President Trump on his first day in the White House was to return the bust of Winston Churchill to its pre-Obama place of honor in the Oval Office?
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 11:11 - Jan 27 by Neath_Jack
F*ck America, backward f*cking country that it is.
They are like the pr1ck in school who had everything, who liked to tell everyone they had everything, but no-one actually gave a f*ck for them.
Yeeehaaaaa look at how big my house/tv/car/bank balance is.
Are you typing what a "backward" country America is on technology developed in California...on the internet which the American military did so much to develop...from the comfort of a country protected by the NATO alliance, backed up by American military superiority. Yeahhh, f*ck Americans...without whom we could well be speaking German...f*ck those people who are the biggest economy in the world and want to do a trade deal with us. Let's go back to the French and the Germans, the tubes of lube are on me!
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 12:36 - Jan 27 by Kerouac
Are you typing what a "backward" country America is on technology developed in California...on the internet which the American military did so much to develop...from the comfort of a country protected by the NATO alliance, backed up by American military superiority. Yeahhh, f*ck Americans...without whom we could well be speaking German...f*ck those people who are the biggest economy in the world and want to do a trade deal with us. Let's go back to the French and the Germans, the tubes of lube are on me!
Absolutely, the same French and Germans that held us in contempt all throughout our membership of the E.U. The French loath us because ourselves and the Americans liberated their country in 1944 and Germans hate us because we defeated them in two World wars and they have never got over that! Throughout Europe there are scores of War cemeteries filled with the bodies of young British,American and Commonwealth men who gave their lives to make sure we stayed free and not be ruled by a foreign power. The people that voted for Brexit aren't all swivel eyed racists, they are people that remembered the sacrifices their Fathers, Mothers,Grandfathers,Grandmothers and the previous generations made. But the present generation just see us as not being good Europeans just like the Blair creature who lets be honest was in the whole thing for personal gain. I live in America and we are respected becauce we stood along side the US in various conflicts throughout the last century and into this one.
As regards Ms. Le Pen it is interesting to note that as regards her main rival for the Presidential elections, Francois Fillon, "France’s financial prosecutors opened a preliminary probe on Wednesday into suspected embezzlement and misappropriation of public funds.
Allez Marine.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 16:08 - Jan 27 with 1785 views
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 16:03 - Jan 27 by Lohengrin
As regards Ms. Le Pen it is interesting to note that as regards her main rival for the Presidential elections, Francois Fillon, "France’s financial prosecutors opened a preliminary probe on Wednesday into suspected embezzlement and misappropriation of public funds.
Allez Marine.
In what way does that make Le Pen a suitable candidate to be president.
That so many Brits trust and prefer Russia ,Putin et al than America says much about how low we ve sunk. GB has indeed lost the plot.
70 yrs ago the red army was butchering all in its wake on a massive scale yet we now see credible tears about water boarding terrorists who blow us ,that's US to prices without mercy.
Worst pm ? Holy Jesus.
Short memories
Blair was elected three times, a labour man. Wilson, a lethal liar without equal, Heath an effete jerk obsessed with boats ,boys and organs.
We owe America much and are ungrateful
God knows ,many yanks are red neck jerks utterly without perception of the wider world but people forget the millions who suffered from socialist dictators for decades.
Now, we have Democratic socialists of North Korea and China taking over the mantle of oppression.
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 16:14 - Jan 27 by perchrockjack
That so many Brits trust and prefer Russia ,Putin et al than America says much about how low we ve sunk. GB has indeed lost the plot.
70 yrs ago the red army was butchering all in its wake on a massive scale yet we now see credible tears about water boarding terrorists who blow us ,that's US to prices without mercy.
Worst pm ? Holy Jesus.
Short memories
Blair was elected three times, a labour man. Wilson, a lethal liar without equal, Heath an effete jerk obsessed with boats ,boys and organs.
We owe America much and are ungrateful
God knows ,many yanks are red neck jerks utterly without perception of the wider world but people forget the millions who suffered from socialist dictators for decades.
Now, we have Democratic socialists of North Korea and China taking over the mantle of oppression.
Thick as shyte we are
We don't trust Russia Perchie
Most are just fed up of their foreign policy & double standards of modern times . Sticking their noses in everyone else business when they can smell a dollar to be made.
Trump seems to like Putin , have a word with him .
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 16:21 - Jan 27 by LeonWasGod
Where are they wrong in the context of trump's past and current issues?
A far more pointed question would be "Where are they right . . . ?"
I read around in The Guardian on a regular basis, and I do not know what country they are writing about when they start on the U.S., or who, when it's about Trump.
They'd make Alice's Wonderland look coldly rational.
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 09:48 - Jan 27 by Kerouac
...and once again JackhimselfOff hasn't much to contribute to the debate so he attacks the poster.
I don't know if you knew but he read a book once on tax havens.
I mentioned Corbyn as people were attacking May's performance. It is reasonable to imagine how the proposed alternative would cope is it not?
May's speech? It's called diplomacy. In the real world (the one where we are not planning on scrapping all debt and ditching paper currency anytime soon) we don't expend effort and political capital on futile exercises. American people voted for Trump, not ours. May has a chance of getting a good deal and exerting some influence. Corbyn would only be invited to Washington if the circus was in town and Coco needed replacing quickly.
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If you'd care to re-read posts previous to your initial one in this thread, people were not, in fact, 'attacking May's performance' - comments were aimed at May herself, and some tongue in cheek. So once again you twist facts and build a straw man to suit your own agenda. As you do. Added to that, the last paragraph in your initial post is pure conjecture and not based in any fact, just as your fourth line in this one. You imagining is just that - your imagination - it's not based in fact, however you may want to spin it.
I mentioned the tax havens book last week on the debt thread as it was relevant to the thread (not started by me btw). In fairness, I may have mentioned it once or twice before *ahem*, but only because I think it's an important issue.
Anyway, as you were.
[Post edited 27 Jan 2017 21:13]
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.
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P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 21:09 - Jan 27 with 1445 views
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 21:03 - Jan 27 by Jack_Meoff
If you'd care to re-read posts previous to your initial one in this thread, people were not, in fact, 'attacking May's performance' - comments were aimed at May herself, and some tongue in cheek. So once again you twist facts and build a straw man to suit your own agenda. As you do. Added to that, the last paragraph in your initial post is pure conjecture and not based in any fact, just as your fourth line in this one. You imagining is just that - your imagination - it's not based in fact, however you may want to spin it.
I mentioned the tax havens book last week on the debt thread as it was relevant to the thread (not started by me btw). In fairness, I may have mentioned it once or twice before *ahem*, but only because I think it's an important issue.
Anyway, as you were.
[Post edited 27 Jan 2017 21:13]
I play a game of "count the straw men" whenever Kerouac posts. It's good fun. There are at least a dozen (probably more) scattered around various threads on the first page of the forum alone. But since his Freud-esque character assassination of me the other day, which was very entertaining, I'm a bit scared of him.
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 21:09 - Jan 27 by exiledclaseboy
I play a game of "count the straw men" whenever Kerouac posts. It's good fun. There are at least a dozen (probably more) scattered around various threads on the first page of the forum alone. But since his Freud-esque character assassination of me the other day, which was very entertaining, I'm a bit scared of him.
You need to leave Sandra from accounts alone and ride life like a bull, mush.
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.
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P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 21:34 - Jan 27 with 1400 views
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 21:03 - Jan 27 by Jack_Meoff
If you'd care to re-read posts previous to your initial one in this thread, people were not, in fact, 'attacking May's performance' - comments were aimed at May herself, and some tongue in cheek. So once again you twist facts and build a straw man to suit your own agenda. As you do. Added to that, the last paragraph in your initial post is pure conjecture and not based in any fact, just as your fourth line in this one. You imagining is just that - your imagination - it's not based in fact, however you may want to spin it.
I mentioned the tax havens book last week on the debt thread as it was relevant to the thread (not started by me btw). In fairness, I may have mentioned it once or twice before *ahem*, but only because I think it's an important issue.
Anyway, as you were.
[Post edited 27 Jan 2017 21:13]
"I'm sure they will get on fantastically, as they try to decide how to ruin two countries, in record time - Phact0rri
"I would have preferred it if she went and made a speech about refusing to deal with your crazy country." - Magic_Michu
"You lot can keep her, she's over there begging & offering any thing she can sell off ." - Oh_tommy_tommy
"Worst PM ever. A former remain campaigner now pushing for a damaging hard Brexit. She does not even believe in what she is doing herself. " - Kilkennyjack
Yawn.
p.s. Kilkenny's assertion that she is a; "former remain campaigner now pushing for a damaging hard Brexit" could have just as easily been written by a Brexiteer about Corbyn and his new-found enthusiasm for the EU.
P.M. Virginia May's speech to U.S. Congressional group on 21:43 - Jan 27 by Kerouac
"I'm sure they will get on fantastically, as they try to decide how to ruin two countries, in record time - Phact0rri
"I would have preferred it if she went and made a speech about refusing to deal with your crazy country." - Magic_Michu
"You lot can keep her, she's over there begging & offering any thing she can sell off ." - Oh_tommy_tommy
"Worst PM ever. A former remain campaigner now pushing for a damaging hard Brexit. She does not even believe in what she is doing herself. " - Kilkennyjack
Yawn.
p.s. Kilkenny's assertion that she is a; "former remain campaigner now pushing for a damaging hard Brexit" could have just as easily been written by a Brexiteer about Corbyn and his new-found enthusiasm for the EU.
Theres a few on this thread that thinks she's a bit of a c@nt then.