| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 13:25 - Nov 4 with 2285 views | Mytch_QPR |
Some good news at last - on this basis, will Paddy Power pay out on my £10 bet on BFG as top scorer this season?
Sherwood out.
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| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 16:35 - Nov 4 with 2115 views | adhoc_qpr |
I wasn't planning to buy it this time - but if Polter is good in it then i could be tempted... |  | | |
| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 16:39 - Nov 4 with 2105 views | Jigsore |
Reviews i've seen so far haven't been good. It'll still scratch that itch but the game engine is still crap, they put all their effort into the Brexit simulations. Apparently there's a 1 in 100 chance you end up with a united Ireland! [Post edited 4 Nov 2016 16:42]
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| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 17:18 - Nov 4 with 2069 views | Neil_SI |
| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 16:39 - Nov 4 by Jigsore |
Reviews i've seen so far haven't been good. It'll still scratch that itch but the game engine is still crap, they put all their effort into the Brexit simulations. Apparently there's a 1 in 100 chance you end up with a united Ireland! [Post edited 4 Nov 2016 16:42]
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The reviews and feedback have actually been very positive overall. There has been an issue where Chinese users are deliberately posting negative reviews because of the lack of a Chinese translation available in FM. That's life for us, it happens.
As ever, there will be a free demo for people to play and try it out, which you can make your own opinion on whether you like it or not.
I'd be interested in why you feel the "game engine is still crap" as well, what makes you say that? I can certainly tell you that there's been plenty of effort put into the whole game, rather than just the Brexit feature, which makes up for a very small amount of work done by the studio across the year. |  | | |
| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 17:48 - Nov 4 with 2033 views | Jigsore |
| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 17:18 - Nov 4 by Neil_SI |
The reviews and feedback have actually been very positive overall. There has been an issue where Chinese users are deliberately posting negative reviews because of the lack of a Chinese translation available in FM. That's life for us, it happens.
As ever, there will be a free demo for people to play and try it out, which you can make your own opinion on whether you like it or not.
I'd be interested in why you feel the "game engine is still crap" as well, what makes you say that? I can certainly tell you that there's been plenty of effort put into the whole game, rather than just the Brexit feature, which makes up for a very small amount of work done by the studio across the year. |
sorry Neil, not that I meant to denigrate the efforts that i'm sure SI put into FM but the general feedback i've seen from 2017 has been negative, especially the steam reviews. Maybe it's an exagerration because these people will still buy and play the game but the over the last few years but lots of people cite a kind of FIFA style stagnation where a couple of new features are thrown out but the main gripes still remain.
People complain about the 3d engine every year like how defenders and goalkeepers are brainless or how inconsistent teams are from game to game, so beating the best team in the league one game and losing to some third division side with more or less the same setup, etc.
this is just what i've read though. there's no real alternative so people will still buy it and probably enjoy getting worked up over it so it shouldn't bother you.
edit: here's a post from the subreddit detailing a few
"I've seen mock remarks of FM17 being FM16.5, due to a lack of new key features to the game. I'm usually okay with the same features, some tweaked fixes and an updated squad roster. However, this year it feels like things that were broken in FM16 are still broken in FM17:
The majority of my goals still come from crosses; low crosses into the box, played in by my wide midfielders (who are set as Inside Forwards). My tactics don't tell my team to do this; I play balanced width, with short fast passing, retaining possession and working the ball into the box.
John Terry is on £50k a week. He is 36 years old with his contract due to expire tomorrow. He is currently out injured for 3 weeks and has been for the last 3 months. He's a backup player who played 15 games for me last season (5 of those in the cups with youth players). I start contract renewal talks and he wants £155k... that's just ridiculous.
Much like last year, you can get out of pretty much any contract renewal talk by telling the player they have plenty of time left on their deal.
Even small simple things like if you go to your scouting or shortlist menus and scroll, kinetic scrolling doesn't work.
This games feels the most like a re-skin of the previous game, with more graphs scattered around and that daft Social Feed which shows me 1 fan that's happy, 1 fan that's angry and 1 fan that's so-so."
[Post edited 4 Nov 2016 17:55]
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| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 18:25 - Nov 4 with 1998 views | Rangersw12 |
| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 17:48 - Nov 4 by Jigsore |
sorry Neil, not that I meant to denigrate the efforts that i'm sure SI put into FM but the general feedback i've seen from 2017 has been negative, especially the steam reviews. Maybe it's an exagerration because these people will still buy and play the game but the over the last few years but lots of people cite a kind of FIFA style stagnation where a couple of new features are thrown out but the main gripes still remain.
People complain about the 3d engine every year like how defenders and goalkeepers are brainless or how inconsistent teams are from game to game, so beating the best team in the league one game and losing to some third division side with more or less the same setup, etc.
this is just what i've read though. there's no real alternative so people will still buy it and probably enjoy getting worked up over it so it shouldn't bother you.
edit: here's a post from the subreddit detailing a few
"I've seen mock remarks of FM17 being FM16.5, due to a lack of new key features to the game. I'm usually okay with the same features, some tweaked fixes and an updated squad roster. However, this year it feels like things that were broken in FM16 are still broken in FM17:
The majority of my goals still come from crosses; low crosses into the box, played in by my wide midfielders (who are set as Inside Forwards). My tactics don't tell my team to do this; I play balanced width, with short fast passing, retaining possession and working the ball into the box.
John Terry is on £50k a week. He is 36 years old with his contract due to expire tomorrow. He is currently out injured for 3 weeks and has been for the last 3 months. He's a backup player who played 15 games for me last season (5 of those in the cups with youth players). I start contract renewal talks and he wants £155k... that's just ridiculous.
Much like last year, you can get out of pretty much any contract renewal talk by telling the player they have plenty of time left on their deal.
Even small simple things like if you go to your scouting or shortlist menus and scroll, kinetic scrolling doesn't work.
This games feels the most like a re-skin of the previous game, with more graphs scattered around and that daft Social Feed which shows me 1 fan that's happy, 1 fan that's angry and 1 fan that's so-so."
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I bought this year's and have to say it's vast improvement on FM16 and some decent new features
Match engine seems more stable and more realistic and less cross goals in my save . The engine seems to respond to tactical changes more than any other version IMO
I also got QPR promoted 1st time of asking beating Derby in the play off final after being 2-0 down | | | |
| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 21:10 - Nov 4 with 1910 views | Neil_SI |
| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 17:48 - Nov 4 by Jigsore |
sorry Neil, not that I meant to denigrate the efforts that i'm sure SI put into FM but the general feedback i've seen from 2017 has been negative, especially the steam reviews. Maybe it's an exagerration because these people will still buy and play the game but the over the last few years but lots of people cite a kind of FIFA style stagnation where a couple of new features are thrown out but the main gripes still remain.
People complain about the 3d engine every year like how defenders and goalkeepers are brainless or how inconsistent teams are from game to game, so beating the best team in the league one game and losing to some third division side with more or less the same setup, etc.
this is just what i've read though. there's no real alternative so people will still buy it and probably enjoy getting worked up over it so it shouldn't bother you.
edit: here's a post from the subreddit detailing a few
"I've seen mock remarks of FM17 being FM16.5, due to a lack of new key features to the game. I'm usually okay with the same features, some tweaked fixes and an updated squad roster. However, this year it feels like things that were broken in FM16 are still broken in FM17:
The majority of my goals still come from crosses; low crosses into the box, played in by my wide midfielders (who are set as Inside Forwards). My tactics don't tell my team to do this; I play balanced width, with short fast passing, retaining possession and working the ball into the box.
John Terry is on £50k a week. He is 36 years old with his contract due to expire tomorrow. He is currently out injured for 3 weeks and has been for the last 3 months. He's a backup player who played 15 games for me last season (5 of those in the cups with youth players). I start contract renewal talks and he wants £155k... that's just ridiculous.
Much like last year, you can get out of pretty much any contract renewal talk by telling the player they have plenty of time left on their deal.
Even small simple things like if you go to your scouting or shortlist menus and scroll, kinetic scrolling doesn't work.
This games feels the most like a re-skin of the previous game, with more graphs scattered around and that daft Social Feed which shows me 1 fan that's happy, 1 fan that's angry and 1 fan that's so-so."
[Post edited 4 Nov 2016 17:55]
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That's fine, appreciate your feedback.
It's always easier to label something as "crap" without realising the level of work and detail involved in creating something to the level that you see in Football Manager.
The code base is around 3 million lines of bespoke code. Just imagine that for a moment.
Someone with an excellent degree out of university may have worked the hardest they've done in their whole life on their final project. They may have written something like 30,000 to 50,000 lines of code. Then they enter the real world... ;)
It's taken the team at Sports Interactive years to develop such a code base, but it's also one of the reasons why there's little competition. It's not easy to make a product on this kind of scale, and there's no room for complacency when you're dealing with something of this kind of size. It really is a lifetime's worth of work for many who are involved. | | | |
| It's all going to be fine....... according to Football Manager on 21:31 - Nov 4 with 1892 views | Toast_R |
Upmost respect for tbe creator's of these games. I wish I had the time to get into it. Ive been toying with buying FM for the last two years but just cant get the the time especially with a 2 year old running me ragid around the house. Its pick up and play games for me now like your FPS games that you can have a quick hours worth while he's having a nap - before he wakes up and tries to wrestle the controller out your hand or a irritating habbit of ejecting the disk from tbe console. Little git. |  | | |
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