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Brexit, not happening now?? 12:01 - Nov 3 with 19805 viewsJAPRANGERS

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/03/high-court-to-rule-on-brexit-legal-ba

Looking at this from afar I am wondering what's going on? Maybe explains why remainer May hasn't done anything since the referendum result, expecting this outcome?
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 21:29 - Nov 3 with 1732 viewsessextaxiboy

Brexit, not happening now?? on 19:27 - Nov 3 by kensalriser

Brexiters should be happy with this, because it means that when parliament ratifies the invoking of Article 50 (which it will), there will be no possibility of legal challenges after the event.

Why anyone would think that this decision means Brexit won't happen is hard to fathom, something I've heard a lot of today. Some people need to engage their brains before piping up.
[Post edited 3 Nov 2016 19:32]


Farage is one of them , his contributions are not thought out , he just gobs off . He gave the referendum up after one result at 10.30 which was Gibraltar FFS >
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 21:38 - Nov 3 with 1714 viewsingeminate

Brexit, not happening now?? on 19:37 - Nov 3 by 1BobbyHazell

I've got just the thing Ingeminate. Thanks for asking!

I'm pretty confident you won't find anything more in depth or analytical than this. But if you do please link me in.

https://corporateeurope.org/international-trade/2016/10/great-ceta-swindle

Be interested to hear any thoughts.

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Cheers, taking a look now.

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Brexit, not happening now?? on 22:13 - Nov 3 with 1667 viewsstevec

If the will of the public is ignored then it's time to bring down the establishment.
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 22:41 - Nov 3 with 1608 viewsdodge_stoke_r

Brexit, not happening now?? on 13:01 - Nov 3 by Brightonhoop

Race card>? Heard it all now. Go back on what you just said,you defined the woman by her nationality. In Law you are on extremely thin ice. I didn't make the rules or the law, but your statement right there is the substance for a succesfull prosecution. My post to you was advisory. Where have you been for the past 2 decades? Seriously....ffs.


So are you really saying that its against the law to call someone from Germany, a German? Or in this case someone from South America a South American? If so, so everytime a sporting comentator for instance ferers to the competitors nationality. Its against the law?
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 22:46 - Nov 3 with 1598 viewsE17hoop

Brexit, not happening now?? on 22:13 - Nov 3 by stevec

If the will of the public is ignored then it's time to bring down the establishment.


What was the will of the people? Was it to take back control of our sovereignty and give our parliament the power to decide its rules? Isn't that what's been supported?

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Brexit, not happening now?? on 23:25 - Nov 3 with 1549 viewskensalriser

Brexit, not happening now?? on 19:37 - Nov 3 by Hoop_Du_Jour

The way it is now the Government wouldn't be able to muster enough votes for the type of deal it wants. If the appeal fails a snap general election looms in which the tories would most likely gain a landslide victory and therefore enough MPs to push through a Brexit without the wringing hands of the left all over it.


We have five year fixed term parliaments now and there are only very limited ways in which the house can be dissolved early. Chief of these is that an election may be called if voted by two thirds of MPs. That is not going to happen if many MPs think their seats may be at risk.

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Brexit, not happening now?? on 23:27 - Nov 3 with 1549 viewsHoop_Du_Jour

Brexit, not happening now?? on 22:46 - Nov 3 by E17hoop

What was the will of the people? Was it to take back control of our sovereignty and give our parliament the power to decide its rules? Isn't that what's been supported?


You're just itching to use the word "racist".
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 23:31 - Nov 3 with 1544 viewsQPR_John

Brexit, not happening now?? on 22:46 - Nov 3 by E17hoop

What was the will of the people? Was it to take back control of our sovereignty and give our parliament the power to decide its rules? Isn't that what's been supported?


The will of the people was to tell parliament it is sovereign with the one exception that it is the people's right to decide when or if that parliament should give its powers away to an unelected organisation
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 23:37 - Nov 3 with 1532 viewsDannytheR

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Brexit, not happening now?? on 23:44 - Nov 3 with 1517 viewsE17hoop

Brexit, not happening now?? on 23:27 - Nov 3 by Hoop_Du_Jour

You're just itching to use the word "racist".


Me? Not at all.

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Brexit, not happening now?? on 23:51 - Nov 3 with 1513 viewsdaveB

Brexit, not happening now?? on 23:31 - Nov 3 by QPR_John

The will of the people was to tell parliament it is sovereign with the one exception that it is the people's right to decide when or if that parliament should give its powers away to an unelected organisation


Sorry but you can't have one exception, it's all or nothing. If Parliament can pass this without a vote from MP's then they can pass any law without it going through parliament and that would quickly become a disaster.

One big positive now is that the Tories have to come up with a good plan for Brexit which convinces MP's to get behind it so if the vote to leave is upheld after going through parliament then that should mean we have a decent plan in place of what to do next
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 00:06 - Nov 4 with 1496 viewsJigsore







what on earth is happening to this country honestly? "a EUROPEAN law group" like it's a dirty word. Painting targets on judges backs for doing their job. Smearing Gina Miller as a 'foreigner' because she was born in another country. Is it any wonder we're an international joke?

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Brexit, not happening now?? on 00:10 - Nov 4 with 1491 viewsQPR_John

Brexit, not happening now?? on 23:51 - Nov 3 by daveB

Sorry but you can't have one exception, it's all or nothing. If Parliament can pass this without a vote from MP's then they can pass any law without it going through parliament and that would quickly become a disaster.

One big positive now is that the Tories have to come up with a good plan for Brexit which convinces MP's to get behind it so if the vote to leave is upheld after going through parliament then that should mean we have a decent plan in place of what to do next


I don't agree, parliament is sovereign because of the will of the people that is the cornerstone of democracy. Parliament does not have the right to give away its sovereignty.
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 05:08 - Nov 4 with 1425 viewsBasingstokeR

Brexit, not happening now?? on 00:10 - Nov 4 by QPR_John

I don't agree, parliament is sovereign because of the will of the people that is the cornerstone of democracy. Parliament does not have the right to give away its sovereignty.


Is that just your opinion rather than a fact?
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 08:08 - Nov 4 with 1380 viewsFDC

Some of the language on today's front pages are wild. Openly inciting a war time fervour. I assume those three judges are seeking advice on protecting themselves from being attacked by some Britain First nazi. Way to go Daily Mail you absolute pond-life.
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 08:22 - Nov 4 with 1366 viewsFDC

The front page of the Express actually invokes Churchill.
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 08:23 - Nov 4 with 1354 viewsHonkytonks

Brexit, not happening now?? on 08:08 - Nov 4 by FDC

Some of the language on today's front pages are wild. Openly inciting a war time fervour. I assume those three judges are seeking advice on protecting themselves from being attacked by some Britain First nazi. Way to go Daily Mail you absolute pond-life.


Lets axis the country..all the looney,left,unwashed,open toed sandle wearing anti brexiteers move up to the grim north above birmingham...all the sexy,hard working,payriotic brexiteers down south ...a dividing 30 foot high electrified fence to be erected by eastern europeans before we boot them out!
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 08:42 - Nov 4 with 1339 viewsMetallica_Hoop

I hope we are not paying for police protection for her.

She made her bed, she can face the consequences.

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Brexit, not happening now?? on 08:42 - Nov 4 with 1337 viewsElHoop

It's all just sounding like a bunch of idiots waving their arms around over nothing. We voted to go out. Just. If the EU had made it a bit more attractive to do so then we would have stayed in. They could still offer that during the next two years if they do actually want us to stay in the bit that we are actually in. I think that Parliament needs to be in a position to advise the country and then judge whether there's still a consensus about leaving. It's important for 100% of the population, not just those who wanted to leave or remain. I can't get my head around the fuss about this court verdict. As things stand, we have to leave. But if things stood differently then that might change, but it's got nothing to do with courts.
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 08:50 - Nov 4 with 1329 viewsKonk

Brexit, not happening now?? on 00:06 - Nov 4 by Jigsore







what on earth is happening to this country honestly? "a EUROPEAN law group" like it's a dirty word. Painting targets on judges backs for doing their job. Smearing Gina Miller as a 'foreigner' because she was born in another country. Is it any wonder we're an international joke?


Jesus Christ - according to the Mail one of them's not only an ex-Olympic fencer, but also "openly gay" - is that really the sort of person we want holding Parliament to account and upholding BRITISH law? Think about it - he's so depraved, he doesn't even have the decency to hide his sickening perversions.

As for the other "out of touch" openly hetrosexual/secretly homosexual members of the metropolitan elite - it sounds like one of them''s a Europhile, which as all good citizens know, is as bad as being a peadophile. The other one charges huge sums for his service, unlike other QC's who work for peanuts. If you've missed out on the subtext - These three are awful terrible bastards.

The brave British public surely didn't fight valiantly to throw off the shackles of The continentals only to then see British judges following British law? When we said we were taking back control, we didn't sign up to this sort of legal meddling from limp wristed europhilic metropolitan Nancy boys. There's no time to waste - we must smash the independent judiciary!

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Brexit, not happening now?? on 09:08 - Nov 4 with 1308 viewsPhildo

Brexit, not happening now?? on 08:50 - Nov 4 by Konk

Jesus Christ - according to the Mail one of them's not only an ex-Olympic fencer, but also "openly gay" - is that really the sort of person we want holding Parliament to account and upholding BRITISH law? Think about it - he's so depraved, he doesn't even have the decency to hide his sickening perversions.

As for the other "out of touch" openly hetrosexual/secretly homosexual members of the metropolitan elite - it sounds like one of them''s a Europhile, which as all good citizens know, is as bad as being a peadophile. The other one charges huge sums for his service, unlike other QC's who work for peanuts. If you've missed out on the subtext - These three are awful terrible bastards.

The brave British public surely didn't fight valiantly to throw off the shackles of The continentals only to then see British judges following British law? When we said we were taking back control, we didn't sign up to this sort of legal meddling from limp wristed europhilic metropolitan Nancy boys. There's no time to waste - we must smash the independent judiciary!


The press going bananas is a sign that the constitution is working. There is nothing they or the government can do to overrule the rule of law so they are kicking the toys out of the pram. There is going to be a delay whatever Nigel Teresa or any of them say and the government have a thin majority with a number of committed remainers amongst their ranks.

The judgement looks pretty bullet proof so an appeal will probably be a waste of time but the government has not been behaving rationally for the last few months - partly because of the lack of opposition, partly because the swivel eyed loons thought taking back control meant they could do whatever they wanted- like for example arguing (as they did in this case) that parliament was not sovereign having just fought a campaign to restore sovereignty to parliament. As a result the attorney general got absolutely mushed by Pannick QC.

The government law officer being had on toast is worse internationally than the Mail returning to its fascistic tenancies. The government may struggle to convince others its decisions on say trade agreements are lawful if those government think they may get wiped out in the High Court.

A lot of volatility ahead i think.
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 09:43 - Nov 4 with 1281 viewsnadera78

The fascist response (and it is genuinely the sort of thing you'd see in a dictatorship) in todays press is also a warning shot to MPs - "If this is how we react to judges upholding the law, just imagine what we'll do to you if you don't meekly accept our demands".

Really quite a disturbing situation.
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 09:53 - Nov 4 with 1269 viewsFDC

And let's not forget what happened to pro-refugee MP Jo Cox only a few months ago. Really dangerous times.
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 10:03 - Nov 4 with 1195 viewsdaveB

Disgusting from the Mail and the Sun but no shock. They wanted the UK to to take back control and have parliamentary sovereignty and are now kicking off that this has happened.

Tosspots the lot of them

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/article-50-high-court-theresa-may-ask-parl
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Brexit, not happening now?? on 10:08 - Nov 4 with 1191 viewsFDC

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