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If... 15:59 - Jun 16 with 5221 viewsGlossolalia

How are the group positions worked out if two teams finish on the same points?
Head-to-head or goal difference?
There's a distinct chance Wales and Slovakia could both finish on 3 points...
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If... on 16:04 - Jun 16 with 3959 viewsSwansea93

If Wales and Slovakia finish on 3pts I think Wales go through as we beat them.

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If... on 16:07 - Jun 16 with 3941 viewsGlossolalia

If... on 16:04 - Jun 16 by Swansea93

If Wales and Slovakia finish on 3pts I think Wales go through as we beat them.


That's good then. I trust Wales to get something against the Russians, but if we do finish on 3 points we have a good chance of going through.
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If... on 16:11 - Jun 16 with 3914 viewsmagicdaps10

If goal difference is the same it goes onto goals scored i believe. If it is the same then it goes on to head to head.

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If... on 16:12 - Jun 16 with 3907 viewsoldcob

If... on 16:07 - Jun 16 by Glossolalia

That's good then. I trust Wales to get something against the Russians, but if we do finish on 3 points we have a good chance of going through.


I though it only went to the head to head if the goal difference was the same too.
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If... on 16:13 - Jun 16 with 3905 viewsGlossolalia

In that case, if we do lose to Russia we want Slovak to lose heavier to Ingerlund.
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If... on 16:18 - Jun 16 with 3877 viewsdailew

If... on 16:11 - Jun 16 by magicdaps10

If goal difference is the same it goes onto goals scored i believe. If it is the same then it goes on to head to head.


No ,head to head first.

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If... on 16:32 - Jun 16 with 3834 viewsGriffting

so if we loose to Russia and England beat Slovakia by the same amount we'll finish third? Although to be honest, if we cannot at least draw with Russia we don't really deserve to go through.
Worst case scenario would be England and Slovakia draw and us lose to Russia and we'd come fourth.
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If... on 16:34 - Jun 16 with 3824 viewslondonlisa2001

If... on 16:11 - Jun 16 by magicdaps10

If goal difference is the same it goes onto goals scored i believe. If it is the same then it goes on to head to head.


Head to head first.
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If... on 16:37 - Jun 16 with 3810 viewssherpajacob

If... on 16:04 - Jun 16 by Swansea93

If Wales and Slovakia finish on 3pts I think Wales go through as we beat them.


If we finish on 3 points then Russia will.be on 4. So a best third place is our only chance.
Not sure if 3 will be enough

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If... on 16:58 - Jun 16 with 3775 viewsJackFish

If... on 16:32 - Jun 16 by Griffting

so if we loose to Russia and England beat Slovakia by the same amount we'll finish third? Although to be honest, if we cannot at least draw with Russia we don't really deserve to go through.
Worst case scenario would be England and Slovakia draw and us lose to Russia and we'd come fourth.


Yeah, we could go through as one of the best third places teams with 3 pts & -1 but it would be very tight.
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If... on 17:21 - Jun 16 with 3745 viewsBorojack

If... on 16:58 - Jun 16 by JackFish

Yeah, we could go through as one of the best third places teams with 3 pts & -1 but it would be very tight.


If Wales do finish 3rd it then goes on

Points
GD
Goals scored
Fair play
And finally Fifa ranking.

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If... on 17:33 - Jun 16 with 3712 viewsTummer_from_Texas

OK I see 3 very different answers so far.

I'd put the total over/under at 4.5 for the thread.

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If... on 17:36 - Jun 16 with 3701 viewsdailew

If... on 17:33 - Jun 16 by Tummer_from_Texas

OK I see 3 very different answers so far.

I'd put the total over/under at 4.5 for the thread.


Borojack's post doesn't contradict anything.

It's what happens IF we finish third. Not if we finish on 3 pts.

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If... on 17:38 - Jun 16 with 3695 viewsTummer_from_Texas

If... on 17:36 - Jun 16 by dailew

Borojack's post doesn't contradict anything.

It's what happens IF we finish third. Not if we finish on 3 pts.


Gotcha.

My illiteracy, apologisms.

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If... on 17:45 - Jun 16 with 3686 viewsBorojack

If... on 17:38 - Jun 16 by Tummer_from_Texas

Gotcha.

My illiteracy, apologisms.


Yes basically we need all the top sides to batter the lower ranked sides.
Just in case we do finish 3rd.
Its a crazy qualifying system though playing 36 games to eliminate just 8 sides.

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If... on 18:02 - Jun 16 with 3644 viewsTummer_from_Texas

If... on 17:45 - Jun 16 by Borojack

Yes basically we need all the top sides to batter the lower ranked sides.
Just in case we do finish 3rd.
Its a crazy qualifying system though playing 36 games to eliminate just 8 sides.


So as mentioned in another thread, NIR/UKR needs to stay just as it is.

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If... on 18:05 - Jun 16 with 3637 viewsTummer_from_Texas

I'll shut up now.

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If... on 18:12 - Jun 16 with 3625 viewsBorojack

If... on 18:02 - Jun 16 by Tummer_from_Texas

So as mentioned in another thread, NIR/UKR needs to stay just as it is.


Yes a draw would be ideal but failing that a NI win as they play Germany last game.
Then a nice big win for Germany.

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If... on 19:09 - Jun 16 with 3558 viewsmonmouth

That second NI goal could end up f***ing us good and proper. Lets hope Germany lose to Poland and have something to play for.

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If... on 19:20 - Jun 16 with 3525 viewsTummer_from_Texas

If... on 19:09 - Jun 16 by monmouth

That second NI goal could end up f***ing us good and proper. Lets hope Germany lose to Poland and have something to play for.


Indeed, and Fabianski is in the goal tonight.

If Poland does manage to pull off the upset somehow, an Ireland win over Germany would then be just as good as the other way around.

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If... on 19:21 - Jun 16 with 3523 viewsJackFish

If... on 19:20 - Jun 16 by Tummer_from_Texas

Indeed, and Fabianski is in the goal tonight.

If Poland does manage to pull off the upset somehow, an Ireland win over Germany would then be just as good as the other way around.


But then a draw would put them both on 4 and that's no good! Working out these permutations over the next few days is going to be a nightmare.
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If... on 19:36 - Jun 16 with 3497 viewsPhaedrus

If... on 16:11 - Jun 16 by magicdaps10

If goal difference is the same it goes onto goals scored i believe. If it is the same then it goes on to head to head.


Fair play I have never met anyone so on first name terms with being wrong as you.

And what is good Phaedrus, and what is not good. Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?

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If... on 19:39 - Jun 16 with 3484 viewssherpajacob

if we finish 3rd, what works against us is that 4 of the other groups play their last games after us.

could end up with a west Germany v Austria 1982 scenario to send us out.

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If... on 19:43 - Jun 16 with 3476 viewsBorojack

If... on 19:09 - Jun 16 by monmouth

That second NI goal could end up f***ing us good and proper. Lets hope Germany lose to Poland and have something to play for.


If we are relying on the world Champions losing then we are really fooked.
They wiĺl want to take some momentum into the knockout stages so cant see them taking it too easy against the Irish.

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If... on 20:27 - Jun 16 with 3430 viewsmonmouth

If... on 19:43 - Jun 16 by Borojack

If we are relying on the world Champions losing then we are really fooked.
They wiĺl want to take some momentum into the knockout stages so cant see them taking it too easy against the Irish.


Not losing, but wrecking the NI goal difference. If, God forbid we lose to Russia by a goal, NI need to lose by two nil.

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