| Cameron champing at the bit 17:00 - Nov 17 with 1183 views | Nogginthenog |
Desperate to expand RAF air strikes to Syria. Clearly they don't learn the lessons of the past. You can't defeat the enemy from the air alone. If we do as he wants you can certainly expect to see a bloody outcome like Paris on the streets of Britain. The only way out of this is to allow Assad to remain in power and assist his army and the Peshmerga to oust these IS murderers. Once that is achieved then we can negotiate on a means to get him removed if that's what the Syrians want. [Post edited 17 Nov 2015 17:45]
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| Cameron changing at the bit on 17:11 - Nov 17 with 1168 views | Lohengrin |
Which lessons would they be? |  |
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| Cameron champing at the bit (n/t) (n/t) on 17:44 - Nov 17 with 1140 views | Nogginthenog |
That we get embroiled in another unwinnable war, as if you didn't know. [Post edited 17 Nov 2015 17:47]
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| Cameron champing at the bit (n/t) (n/t) on 17:54 - Nov 17 with 1104 views | Lohengrin |
| Cameron champing at the bit (n/t) (n/t) on 17:44 - Nov 17 by Nogginthenog |
That we get embroiled in another unwinnable war, as if you didn't know. [Post edited 17 Nov 2015 17:47]
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You were talking about air strikes.
This war in Syria is perfectly winnable as long as the political will is there to fight the type of war that is neccessary. | |
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| Cameron champing at the bit (n/t) (n/t) on 17:55 - Nov 17 with 1098 views | dgt73 |
| Cameron champing at the bit (n/t) (n/t) on 17:54 - Nov 17 by Lohengrin |
You were talking about air strikes.
This war in Syria is perfectly winnable as long as the political will is there to fight the type of war that is neccessary. |
Of course - if the gloves really came off, it wouldn't take long at all. |  |
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| Cameron champing at the bit on 17:59 - Nov 17 with 1084 views | Nogginthenog |
But I also stated that air strikes alone can't succeed so boots on the ground would probably be the next step. | | | |
| Cameron champing at the bit on 18:02 - Nov 17 with 1078 views | Lord_Bony |
Im surprised how thick they are at the top really.
All it takes to defeat ISIL is MONEY MONEY MONEY ££££$$$$££$$$£
Instead of spending billions on weapons just buy them out just give a fraction of that to them say 2 billion.
Yes,thats right remember they are made up mainly of mercenaries...people who don t care whos side they fight for as long as they get paid....and who pays the most calls the tune.
So offer them lots of cash and incentives whatever and they will come over in droves...
Once ISIL is dismantled and its teeth and claws taken away then we will decide on the next move.
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| Cameron champing at the bit on 18:06 - Nov 17 with 1071 views | Lohengrin |
| Cameron champing at the bit on 17:59 - Nov 17 by Nogginthenog |
But I also stated that air strikes alone can't succeed so boots on the ground would probably be the next step. |
The Syrian Army, with the Russian advisors already there, could do ground offensive on their own if NATO committed to a proper, sustained bombing strategy. It would be all over in the space of a few days if the politicians were prepared to accept that the expenditure in blood would be lavish. | |
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| Cameron champing at the bit on 18:07 - Nov 17 with 1067 views | Highjack |
| Cameron champing at the bit on 18:02 - Nov 17 by Lord_Bony |
Im surprised how thick they are at the top really.
All it takes to defeat ISIL is MONEY MONEY MONEY ££££$$$$££$$$£
Instead of spending billions on weapons just buy them out just give a fraction of that to them say 2 billion.
Yes,thats right remember they are made up mainly of mercenaries...people who don t care whos side they fight for as long as they get paid....and who pays the most calls the tune.
So offer them lots of cash and incentives whatever and they will come over in droves...
Once ISIL is dismantled and its teeth and claws taken away then we will decide on the next move.
Sometimes I wish I was PM.... |
I'm no economist but I don't think that's a morally acceptable use of taxpayers money. |  |
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| Cameron champing at the bit on 18:09 - Nov 17 with 1065 views | Lord_Bony |
| Cameron champing at the bit on 18:07 - Nov 17 by Highjack |
I'm no economist but I don't think that's a morally acceptable use of taxpayers money. |
Well in the long run it would be a lot cheaper than a prolonged military campaign.
More importantly, it would save on a lot of blood shed. | |
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| Cameron changing at the bit on 18:41 - Nov 17 with 1031 views | blueytheblue |
| Cameron changing at the bit on 17:11 - Nov 17 by Lohengrin |
Which lessons would they be? |
That waving a piece of paper in the air clearly prevents mass murder and turns even the most evil of people into kitten lovers, clearly. |  |
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| Cameron champing at the bit on 18:45 - Nov 17 with 1017 views | Swans1555 |
Paris is the fuel Cameron needs to push on with the air strikes and get it through parliament this time. Wouldn't surprise me to see British boots on the ground next year. | | | |
| Cameron changing at the bit on 18:58 - Nov 17 with 1000 views | Lohengrin |
| Cameron changing at the bit on 18:41 - Nov 17 by blueytheblue |
That waving a piece of paper in the air clearly prevents mass murder and turns even the most evil of people into kitten lovers, clearly. |
Poor old Nev, he'll never live that down.  | |
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| Cameron champing at the bit on 23:16 - Nov 17 with 882 views | Kilkennyjack |
If the ruskies, yanks, and french are all bombing ISIS on a daily basis, then is the RAF really needed in military terms ? i have no idea.
Old army type fella on newsnight just said any contribution was political and not militarily significant....? |  |
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| Cameron champing at the bit on 23:20 - Nov 17 with 873 views | Groo |
It's OK, the Russians are on the ground |  |
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| Cameron champing at the bit on 00:11 - Nov 18 with 836 views | deanscfc |
| Cameron champing at the bit on 18:02 - Nov 17 by Lord_Bony |
Im surprised how thick they are at the top really.
All it takes to defeat ISIL is MONEY MONEY MONEY ££££$$$$££$$$£
Instead of spending billions on weapons just buy them out just give a fraction of that to them say 2 billion.
Yes,thats right remember they are made up mainly of mercenaries...people who don t care whos side they fight for as long as they get paid....and who pays the most calls the tune.
So offer them lots of cash and incentives whatever and they will come over in droves...
Once ISIL is dismantled and its teeth and claws taken away then we will decide on the next move.
Sometimes I wish I was PM.... |
Yes let's give a bunch of terrorist lunatics who want to blow us all up and wants to turn the world into islamic extremists 2 billion quid. Fantastic idea. What could go wrong? | | | |
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