| Jeremy Corbyn 12:42 - Jul 24 with 118806 views | CountyJim |
I'm going to vote for him was going to go with Burnham but the amount of crap he's put up with and with dignity
He's a man of principal don't share his views on the monarch but we all have different points of view
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 14:19 - Aug 25 with 2358 views | perchrockjack |
Peter Sellers and a good film, a subtle critique of Unions too.
Anyway, I ve always wondered why countries formally sviet/Stalinist/socialisy republics are now CAPITALIST and would never go back to the old repressive regimes.
They were countries that had no personal freedom/couldn't even leave the country without getting shot.
We in the west, re and have been free to go as we please yet we have many who simply love the principles which the old socialist states adhered to.
Ive bad news too as life is not fair, never has been and its always beenthe case of there being rich poor and us in the middle. Its therefore our RIGHT to look after ourselves and our families and our country before anyone or anywhere else.
Now, this is how it is . Really it is.
Its been said there is a huge difference between socialsm and Stalinism. Not really, its what happens when matters are taken to extremes.
Social ownership/control is not popular with British. |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 14:32 - Aug 25 with 2339 views | yescomeon |
The situation we have at the moment is a case of an extreme, it is capitalist extremism. Taking steps back towards the centre ground is a good thing and to get back to the centre ground we have to head left. It won't make it an oppressive communist state, but it might make it a fairer state. We need to find a happy balance between free market capitalism and socialism, seems to work well in Germany and Scandinavia why not here. |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 15:15 - Aug 25 with 2300 views | perchrockjack |
Agree with that but it's maybe not in the British psyche.
We need managers to lead and manage first and foremost.
This doesn't often happen here so class obsessed are we.
Bin the civil list for all except queens siblings, then have a government truly for all the people. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 16:31 - Aug 25 with 2262 views | dailew |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 10:21 - Aug 25 by Humpty |
I don't.
I'd happily vote for a party which would see me less well off if it would make a fairer society than the one we have now.
Tell me Perch. What's this Christianity you believe in all about? |
"What's this Christianity you believe in all about?"
It's all about following this bearded bloke who was very much against banks and moneylenders and showed undue concern for the poor and dispossessed. Didn't like wars much either. |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 16:37 - Aug 25 with 2251 views | WarwickHunt |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 16:31 - Aug 25 by dailew |
"What's this Christianity you believe in all about?"
It's all about following this bearded bloke who was very much against banks and moneylenders and showed undue concern for the poor and dispossessed. Didn't like wars much either. |
Russell Brand? |  | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 16:44 - Aug 25 with 2234 views | perchrockjack |
Its not been easy on here of late,Warwick.
Some sad sap was suggesting putting others before oneself .
We seem to be a nation of altruistic angels.
Ive yet to witness much Christian charity | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 16:53 - Aug 25 with 2225 views | monmouth |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 16:44 - Aug 25 by perchrockjack |
Its not been easy on here of late,Warwick.
Some sad sap was suggesting putting others before oneself .
We seem to be a nation of altruistic angels.
Ive yet to witness much Christian charity |
I quite like the alliteration of altruistic angels I must say Perch. Although to be honest, I'm equally impressed when you just blindly chuck letters at the screen and see what sticks as normal.
But on your point, putting others before one's excess and greed is not the same as putting others before oneself is it?
Otherwise, by the inevitable end game on your logic, you can't really blame someone who has nothing, and nothing to lose, coming to Perch Towers with a gun and taking everything you have for themselves. Then where would we be. Well, Johannesburg, obviously. |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 17:56 - Aug 25 with 2175 views | perchrockjack |
"excesses" how, where, why.
Driving through the Wye Valley from Hereford to the Bridge very recently ,I d have thought Jez will be gunning for people in that area they look affluent enough to pay more and more and more for whom he says as priority.
excess .. Now that s a Humptism. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 17:56 - Aug 25 with 2178 views | blueytheblue |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 16:31 - Aug 25 by dailew |
"What's this Christianity you believe in all about?"
It's all about following this bearded bloke who was very much against banks and moneylenders and showed undue concern for the poor and dispossessed. Didn't like wars much either. |
I suspect if some beardy bloke these days pretended to be the messiah, was very much against banks and moneylenders and showed undue concern for the poor and dispossessed; didn't like wars much either, he'd either be sectioned or be frontrunner to lead Labour... | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 18:04 - Aug 25 with 2175 views | monmouth |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 17:56 - Aug 25 by perchrockjack |
"excesses" how, where, why.
Driving through the Wye Valley from Hereford to the Bridge very recently ,I d have thought Jez will be gunning for people in that area they look affluent enough to pay more and more and more for whom he says as priority.
excess .. Now that s a Humptism. |
Wouldn't get any argument from me if all taxes were properly progressive, and tax was used as a tool for repairing the bankers excesses rather than systematically demonising people not at fault. The problems with the NHS will all be the doctors fault next, just like the problems with education are all the fault of the teachers and, oh yes, the problems with crime are all the fault of the police.
Tax-spend-redistribute-stimulate
The rich will still be rich, the better off will still be better off, the propertied will still be the luckiest people in the UK.
In my day it was called the multiplier, and everyone ends up better off in what is effectively a zero sum game, rather than just a few.. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 18:06 - Aug 25 with 2172 views | perchrockjack |
Add to that, a dishevelled air ,full of contempt and hate for a wide section of communities and institutions into which I d be pretty certain he s invested himself.
Messiah in Manselton but Devil in Dorking | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 18:54 - Aug 25 with 2130 views | WarwickHunt |
" bearded vegetarian socialist" - I bet he wears socks with sandals too. | | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 19:41 - Aug 25 with 2103 views | waynekerr55 |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 18:54 - Aug 25 by WarwickHunt |
" bearded vegetarian socialist" - I bet he wears socks with sandals too. |
That's probably seen as trendy in Islington |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 19:53 - Aug 25 with 2093 views | WarwickHunt |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 19:41 - Aug 25 by waynekerr55 |
That's probably seen as trendy in Islington |
Only in a post-modern ironic kinda way.
I doubt if Jezza is hip to that. The massive lentil-munching Marxist. | | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 19:58 - Aug 25 with 2085 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 19:53 - Aug 25 by WarwickHunt |
Only in a post-modern ironic kinda way.
I doubt if Jezza is hip to that. The massive lentil-munching Marxist. |
Is he actually a veggie? How very predictable and unimaginative. |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 20:59 - Aug 25 with 2031 views | GehbeHindert_Bosman |
If we are celebrating vegetarians with controversial policies and distinctive facial hair may I take this opportunity to raise a glass of Lowenbrau to Der Fuhrer. Like Corbyn he was very misunderstood and also just wanted a better deal for the downtrodden and betrayed people who flocked to support him.
Eine Kleine Nacht Musik if you please. Prost !! [Post edited 25 Aug 2015 21:01]
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:24 - Aug 25 with 2012 views | perchrockjack |
Let down by fact Wolfgang was a Salzburg boy.
Still, he spoke German..
I like mozart | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:31 - Aug 25 with 2009 views | waynekerr55 |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 19:58 - Aug 25 by exiledclaseboy |
Is he actually a veggie? How very predictable and unimaginative. |
I sense inter socialist tension 😂 | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:32 - Aug 25 with 2004 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:31 - Aug 25 by waynekerr55 |
I sense inter socialist tension 😂 |
You should leave Mr Balls alone. He's a very nice man. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:35 - Aug 25 with 1998 views | perchrockjack |
Should clause be referred to in the third person .
i seem to be an interloper at times.
Rear gate lock has broken and we had to drag two bins out through the house and missus is cross and I'm upset.
Cost me£100 last month when garage lock jammed.
Locksmiths fookn robbers | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:56 - Aug 25 with 1978 views | yescomeon |
haha fuk me. Be worth having J-Corbz as PM just to see the American media meltdown. The comments section on that article looks like a place a few of the commenters on this thread might enjoy. | |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 22:16 - Aug 25 with 1957 views | GehbeHindert_Bosman |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:24 - Aug 25 by perchrockjack |
Let down by fact Wolfgang was a Salzburg boy.
Still, he spoke German..
I like mozart |
The only composer from Braunau am Inn is the bloke responsible for Silent Night (the Xmas Carol not the beds).
Given the rancour and hating of all things Christian on here I thought something from the Jerry Lee Lewis of the day would be better ....
Great Bollhocks of Feuer...
Mozart AND Springsteen...?
I like you Mr PRJ....  | | | |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 22:18 - Aug 25 with 1957 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 21:56 - Aug 25 by yescomeon |
haha fuk me. Be worth having J-Corbz as PM just to see the American media meltdown. The comments section on that article looks like a place a few of the commenters on this thread might enjoy. |
We need a Cu&t in charge
Cutting jobs
Cutting disabled benefit
Austerity lover
Loves a war
Puts a poor facker through university to finish up to their eye balls in debt .
And loves absolutly loves the bedroom tax .
That'll learn us eh.
Eh Perchy
That's the way forward
That's what my kids needs |  |
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| Jeremy Corbyn on 23:22 - Aug 25 with 1916 views | jackrabbit |
| Jeremy Corbyn on 18:04 - Aug 25 by monmouth |
Wouldn't get any argument from me if all taxes were properly progressive, and tax was used as a tool for repairing the bankers excesses rather than systematically demonising people not at fault. The problems with the NHS will all be the doctors fault next, just like the problems with education are all the fault of the teachers and, oh yes, the problems with crime are all the fault of the police.
Tax-spend-redistribute-stimulate
The rich will still be rich, the better off will still be better off, the propertied will still be the luckiest people in the UK.
In my day it was called the multiplier, and everyone ends up better off in what is effectively a zero sum game, rather than just a few.. |
I wonder what 'progressive' taxes would look like? I can hazard a guess - 'tax the rich'. But who exactly are the rich? If it refers to, say, the top 1% of taxpayers, I understand they already pay 30% of all taxes collected. How much more should they contribute?- oh you want it a-l-l! I see.
In a competitive world Corbynite economics would cripple the British economy. I imagine a lot on here cannot remember the brain drain of the 60s and 70s. Anyone with ambition, energy, drive and gumption who wanted to better their lot, packed their bags and got the hell out before Dennis Healey hit them with his 93% tax rate. Is that we need eh boys?
Our greatest ever modern era Prime Minister, Mrs M Thatcher, summed it up:
"You don't make poor people rich by making rich people poor". It's a bit more complicated than that.
I find it curious that this thread has run to 28 pages. A year from now, we'll look back on this with bemusement. Corbyn is a non-entity who is exciting the usual suspects - militant unions, universities, public sector workers alarmed by change, and the radical young who want to change the world. But the mass of the general public look on with mild passing interest and get on with the business of living their lives productively and responsibly. Most people have no interest in politics. There's an old saying "if not your not left wing when you're young, you have no heart. If you're still left wing when you're old, you have no brain." Britain is getting older. |  | | |
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