| Jehovah's Witnesses on 09:58 - Aug 31 with 1439 views | Lohengrin |
It's a very sad situation. I hated reading about it. |  |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 09:59 - Aug 31 with 1435 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 09:58 - Aug 31 by Lohengrin |
It's a very sad situation. I hated reading about it. |
Aye. But it was a convenient excuse for the intolerant atheists on this forum to have another pop at religion and religious people, regardless of what the facts of the situation turn out to be. |  |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 10:02 - Aug 31 with 1419 views | perchrockjack |
jacbastardo.
Once they called when I was changing the plugs on my motor bike (VFR) which was an awkward bitch.
I had just removed the tank when a little voice appeared at my garage door and said "Have I caught you at a busy time" . As I turned around, I dropped a large spanner on to the said removed tank damaging it. This machine,trust me, was kept immaculate and I also banged my head on the beam above.
I did invited them into the house in a courteous manner DAVILLON would have been proud of.
When settled down I made them a cup of coffee (instant) and let rip mainly about how all religions can be toxic.
They left before the coffee had cooled.
Nobody has called since |  |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 10:06 - Aug 31 with 1421 views | Lohengrin |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 09:59 - Aug 31 by exiledclaseboy |
Aye. But it was a convenient excuse for the intolerant atheists on this forum to have another pop at religion and religious people, regardless of what the facts of the situation turn out to be. |
Well you'll have that on here, Clase. There's lots of irate (I can't begin to fathom why?) posturing, but that never solves anything and rarely adds anything remotely worthwhile to a thread. Catharsis, perhaps? Get the anger and bile out on here so you don't carry it over into the real world? | |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 10:07 - Aug 31 with 1418 views | Jackfath |
Seems my #prayers were answered.
Praise the Lord/Buddha/Jehovah etc etc |  |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 10:10 - Aug 31 with 1401 views | perchrockjack |
Why was their religion brought into the public domain and by whom.
The revisionism is fine but if this kid needed blood he wouldn't have had it and died.
He still might. | |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 16:13 - Aug 31 with 1352 views | keeponrockin |
Some disgusting posts on here by the usual suspects ready to use a terrible situation to push their intolerant agenda. It's an awful situation and I feel terribly sorry for those concerned. God bless them. | | | |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 09:18 - Sep 1 with 1296 views | johnlangy |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 16:13 - Aug 31 by keeponrockin |
Some disgusting posts on here by the usual suspects ready to use a terrible situation to push their intolerant agenda. It's an awful situation and I feel terribly sorry for those concerned. God bless them. |
Somebody else said i'm struggling to see what law they've broken. The fact that they maybe haven't broken any law was repeated a number of times on breakfast TV this morning. A previous poster suggested they be charged with attempted murder if the boy is found safe and well.
I struggle to understand how someone can say something like that with virtually zero knowledge of the situation. A number of people should be thoroughly embarrassed by their posts on this thread. | | | |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 09:22 - Sep 1 with 1293 views | Clinton |
Was it proved the parents took him ?
We're there any witnesses? |  |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 14:05 - Sep 1 with 1257 views | controversial_jack |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 09:18 - Sep 1 by johnlangy |
Somebody else said i'm struggling to see what law they've broken. The fact that they maybe haven't broken any law was repeated a number of times on breakfast TV this morning. A previous poster suggested they be charged with attempted murder if the boy is found safe and well.
I struggle to understand how someone can say something like that with virtually zero knowledge of the situation. A number of people should be thoroughly embarrassed by their posts on this thread. |
They haven't broken any laws. .It's the state interfering and making the rules up as it goes along when it has no right to do so. They are the parents and they know what's best for their child. The Police and social services have behaved disgracefully and should he held to account for what they have put the parents through | | | |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 14:37 - Sep 1 with 1236 views | perchrockjack |
States pass laws.
This kid is by no means out of it and the comments vis a vis blood stand | |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 14:49 - Sep 1 with 1237 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 14:37 - Sep 1 by perchrockjack |
States pass laws.
This kid is by no means out of it and the comments vis a vis blood stand |
Blood and the family's religion has nothing to do with this case. It is an issue about treatment options and their availability in this country.
People have jumped in with both feet whilst knowing nothing about the case. |  |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 15:08 - Sep 1 with 1222 views | perchrockjack |
I don't know, neither do you ,as to what treatment this kid needs but pure blood is an intrinsic part of JW so my point, which you ve missed ,is that he could/will have to have a transfusion.
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 16:27 - Sep 1 with 1209 views | JackoBoostardo |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 14:05 - Sep 1 by controversial_jack |
They haven't broken any laws. .It's the state interfering and making the rules up as it goes along when it has no right to do so. They are the parents and they know what's best for their child. The Police and social services have behaved disgracefully and should he held to account for what they have put the parents through |
Yeah - Parents clearly know more than doctors, nurses, consultants, specialists and every other person right?
You don't have post some sh[t aye! State interfering you say!? Or simply the authorities acting to ensure the safety of a very sick child?
Parents who have not have any medical training whatsoever, clearly DO NOT know better than medical professionals who have! Whilst in most cases they could ask for a second opinion, if the demands of a parent puts at risk the health and well-being of a child in the care of a hospital, the hospital has every right to seek a court order to prevent the parents from doing the wrong thing. |  |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 16:58 - Sep 1 with 1178 views | fbreath |
The child didn't look fit to travel to me.
I wonder what effect this whole episode has had on him. Must be very traumatic for someone so young. |  |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 18:21 - Sep 1 with 1105 views | Free_Willy |
Notice the BBC mentioned their religion. not in rotherham case though.
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 19:16 - Sep 1 with 1086 views | Spratty |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 16:27 - Sep 1 by JackoBoostardo |
Yeah - Parents clearly know more than doctors, nurses, consultants, specialists and every other person right?
You don't have post some sh[t aye! State interfering you say!? Or simply the authorities acting to ensure the safety of a very sick child?
Parents who have not have any medical training whatsoever, clearly DO NOT know better than medical professionals who have! Whilst in most cases they could ask for a second opinion, if the demands of a parent puts at risk the health and well-being of a child in the care of a hospital, the hospital has every right to seek a court order to prevent the parents from doing the wrong thing. |
So when the doctor told us that whatever our 9 month old son had done he had not broken his leg, he was correct was he? 
And we were wrong taking him to A&E regardless getting an x ray that clearly showed a complete long bone fracture. Because parents with no medical training whatsoever clearly DO NOT know better than medical professionals even when they know something is seriously wrong with their child?
Tell it to the medical negligence claims board. Things are not always as black and white as you present them and a child's life may depend on questioning medical opinion.
All this judgmental stuff about the JW - undoubtedly he would have needed blood for the operations the parents had already agreed to so why all the assumptions that was a problem. Also blood recovery allows use of your own blood. |  | | |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 19:16 - Sep 1 with 1086 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 14:05 - Sep 1 by controversial_jack |
They haven't broken any laws. .It's the state interfering and making the rules up as it goes along when it has no right to do so. They are the parents and they know what's best for their child. The Police and social services have behaved disgracefully and should he held to account for what they have put the parents through |
I don't agree that parents necessarily know what's best for a child with a complex medical condition but other than that, not much to disagree with there. | |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 19:32 - Sep 1 with 1077 views | perchrockjack |
Some very fair points on this topic.
Not simple by any means, but I wouldn't have taken any of my kids away as they did | |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 19:44 - Sep 1 with 1068 views | controversial_jack |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 16:27 - Sep 1 by JackoBoostardo |
Yeah - Parents clearly know more than doctors, nurses, consultants, specialists and every other person right?
You don't have post some sh[t aye! State interfering you say!? Or simply the authorities acting to ensure the safety of a very sick child?
Parents who have not have any medical training whatsoever, clearly DO NOT know better than medical professionals who have! Whilst in most cases they could ask for a second opinion, if the demands of a parent puts at risk the health and well-being of a child in the care of a hospital, the hospital has every right to seek a court order to prevent the parents from doing the wrong thing. |
Parents have every right to withdraw their children from hospital if they believe they can get better treatment elsewhere. Parents don't need permission to take their children anywhere. The state has no business interfering, and maybe they should have been a bit more vigilant in Rotherham rather than hounding these poor people | | | |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 19:49 - Sep 1 with 1066 views | perchrockjack |
Don't agree ct but your a great poster la | |
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| Jehovah's Witnesses on 22:39 - Sep 1 with 1025 views | controversial_jack |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 16:27 - Sep 1 by JackoBoostardo |
Yeah - Parents clearly know more than doctors, nurses, consultants, specialists and every other person right?
You don't have post some sh[t aye! State interfering you say!? Or simply the authorities acting to ensure the safety of a very sick child?
Parents who have not have any medical training whatsoever, clearly DO NOT know better than medical professionals who have! Whilst in most cases they could ask for a second opinion, if the demands of a parent puts at risk the health and well-being of a child in the care of a hospital, the hospital has every right to seek a court order to prevent the parents from doing the wrong thing. |
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/choice-parents-treating-child-153603038.html | | | |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 22:45 - Sep 1 with 1022 views | LeonisGod |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 16:27 - Sep 1 by JackoBoostardo |
Yeah - Parents clearly know more than doctors, nurses, consultants, specialists and every other person right?
You don't have post some sh[t aye! State interfering you say!? Or simply the authorities acting to ensure the safety of a very sick child?
Parents who have not have any medical training whatsoever, clearly DO NOT know better than medical professionals who have! Whilst in most cases they could ask for a second opinion, if the demands of a parent puts at risk the health and well-being of a child in the care of a hospital, the hospital has every right to seek a court order to prevent the parents from doing the wrong thing. |
You'll be in for a shock the day you find out that mistakes happen in the NHS and the system is more concerned about covering it's own ass than the welfare of patients. |  | | |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 23:14 - Sep 1 with 1009 views | controversial_jack |
If the parents are charged with attempted murder or other such nonsense and nothing bad happens to the child, surely, the police would be open to a serious charge themselves, such as perverting the course of justice or perjury? | | | |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 23:22 - Sep 1 with 1004 views | Pacemaker |
| Jehovah's Witnesses on 14:05 - Sep 1 by controversial_jack |
They haven't broken any laws. .It's the state interfering and making the rules up as it goes along when it has no right to do so. They are the parents and they know what's best for their child. The Police and social services have behaved disgracefully and should he held to account for what they have put the parents through |
The hospital made a complaint that the child's health was in danger, they are the experts, therefore by law both the social services who are there to protect children and the police have to act.
Whether the doctors have over-reacted to "awkward" parents is yet to be seen, equally I have had experience of determined but misinformed parents in a similar situation, it's a no win situation because they were in such a dark place and convinced that information on the internet was the saviour for their child.
There is no way that you can convince people to stop and just think about things. Equally I have come across some inept medical staff who have not shown any sympathy, diplomacy or empathy for patients.
The child should be the only concern for everybody, he seems to have been forgotten in this most recent tragedy. |  |
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