| "Rochdale where a nobody club " 23:22 - Aug 10 with 6080 views | TalkingSutty |
Scott Wisemans comments in the Rochdale Observer tonight /tommoz. That was the standing of the club before Hillcroft took over and presumably gave players like SW his chance !!
So what was Wisemans standing at that point ? Is it just me, but i interpret those comments as disrespectful and uncalled for. Or should we bow down to Wiseman, accept his comments and just accept that we are a nobody club, i think he is a cheky ba****d !!
Its that kind of comment and attitude that leaves a bad taste in supporters mouths, i hope we stuff them tomorrow.
If its true what he says then Hilly and Flicker and Wiseman where also nobodys and thanks to our club we gave them all the the opportunity to climb up the ladder and as a result they should thankful to our club for that break. Instead they think its our club who have to be grateful, what sad people they are !!
Even sadder, some fans actually think these individuals are right. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:26 - Aug 11 with 1350 views | olympicdale |
after reading the comments today, there are still some things i stand by from my original post. I dont believe this is a case of the ob twisting his words or reporting it wrongly, i think this is just a massive gaffe by wiseman, a very bad choice of words maybe, but i was always under the impression he thought he was better than us, just by his body language and by the interviews he gave, reading between the lines. Does he really have that hard an axe to grind against us, did we fight too hard to deny him his move, either way just shows how stupid footballers can truely be. |  |
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:26 - Aug 11 with 1350 views | fevtyke |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 01:31 - Aug 11 by heywooddale |
Didn't he come from Darlington? What kind of club were they at the time i wonder? I know what kind of club they are now. A f**ked one.
And he moved to Barnsley,the sh*test of the Yorkshire clubs. Hardly Leeds Utd are they?
And if i remember rightly he was released by this nobody club. What do you call a player that was let go by a nobody club?
Well Done Scotty, made yourself look a prize tit there!! |
"the sh*test of the Yorkshire clubs"
bit harsh that lol theres very few Yorkshire clubs above us :)
You can have Wiseman back if you like, he was terrible last season. Think he must have some compromising pictures of Hill, because he continues to play him choose how bad.
Hopefuly he was just finding it hard to acclimatise tot he championship and he will be better this season, but i wont be holding my breath
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:40 - Aug 11 with 1330 views | AtThePeake |
Hmmm. I like the way we're all saying he was lucky to stay with us when Ramsden went.
We were lucky he came back to us, and we were lucky Ramsden left.
Doubt I'll ever see a more over-rated player than Simon Ramsden in a Dale shirt, maybe Scotty only looked as good as he did because we were used to Simon Ramsden. |  |
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:48 - Aug 11 with 1319 views | ColDale |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:26 - Aug 11 by fevtyke |
"the sh*test of the Yorkshire clubs"
bit harsh that lol theres very few Yorkshire clubs above us :)
You can have Wiseman back if you like, he was terrible last season. Think he must have some compromising pictures of Hill, because he continues to play him choose how bad.
Hopefuly he was just finding it hard to acclimatise tot he championship and he will be better this season, but i wont be holding my breath
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Wiseman's strength is his ability to push forward. Given that based on results, Barnsley would have been on the back foot for much of last season, you won't have seen the best of him yet. |  | | |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 13:17 - Aug 11 with 1295 views | MoonyDale |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:48 - Aug 11 by ColDale |
Wiseman's strength is his ability to push forward. Given that based on results, Barnsley would have been on the back foot for much of last season, you won't have seen the best of him yet. |
They will be on the back foot this season also, nailed on relegation for them methinks.... |  |
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 13:32 - Aug 11 with 1283 views | maybee |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:40 - Aug 11 by AtThePeake |
Hmmm. I like the way we're all saying he was lucky to stay with us when Ramsden went.
We were lucky he came back to us, and we were lucky Ramsden left.
Doubt I'll ever see a more over-rated player than Simon Ramsden in a Dale shirt, maybe Scotty only looked as good as he did because we were used to Simon Ramsden. |
Correct. Hill got very lucky when Ramsden went to Bratford. He had released Wiseman, and was rather fortunate that he hadn't got fixed up with a new club.
Wiseman was one of our better players, whilst Ramsden was a steady-eddie at best. |  | | |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 13:57 - Aug 11 with 1250 views | pl56 |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:26 - Aug 11 by olympicdale |
after reading the comments today, there are still some things i stand by from my original post. I dont believe this is a case of the ob twisting his words or reporting it wrongly, i think this is just a massive gaffe by wiseman, a very bad choice of words maybe, but i was always under the impression he thought he was better than us, just by his body language and by the interviews he gave, reading between the lines. Does he really have that hard an axe to grind against us, did we fight too hard to deny him his move, either way just shows how stupid footballers can truely be. |
I seem to recall posting a supportive message when words you used on the site were , in my view , misinterpreted . In the circumstances , I believe Wiseman , who doesn't have the oppoertunity easily to respond , deserves similar benefit of the doubt .
There are times on here , I feel , that posters are a little hasty in finding fault . | | | |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 16:21 - Aug 11 with 1218 views | fevtyke |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:48 - Aug 11 by ColDale |
Wiseman's strength is his ability to push forward. Given that based on results, Barnsley would have been on the back foot for much of last season, you won't have seen the best of him yet. |
In the first half of the season we were pushing for the playoffs. the loss of butterfield to injury, drinkwater recalled by man utd and sale of vaz te put paid to that.
Wiseman was still useless when pushing forwards, often he would just run the ball dead | | | |
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 18:53 - Aug 11 with 1160 views | olympicdale |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 13:57 - Aug 11 by pl56 |
I seem to recall posting a supportive message when words you used on the site were , in my view , misinterpreted . In the circumstances , I believe Wiseman , who doesn't have the oppoertunity easily to respond , deserves similar benefit of the doubt .
There are times on here , I feel , that posters are a little hasty in finding fault . |
Maybe so yes, but having seen that he did use the word "nobody" does suggest that there may have been a small hint of arrogance in this original comment, its not something you should be saying to any professional club, no matter in what context you mean it in, its just not respectful, and hugely unprofessional.
Whether its been twisted we don't know, but maybe so, should give him the benefit of the doubt as he wont be able to defend himself personally as we do via this media. | |
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 18:59 - Aug 11 with 1148 views | ColDale |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 18:53 - Aug 11 by olympicdale |
Maybe so yes, but having seen that he did use the word "nobody" does suggest that there may have been a small hint of arrogance in this original comment, its not something you should be saying to any professional club, no matter in what context you mean it in, its just not respectful, and hugely unprofessional.
Whether its been twisted we don't know, but maybe so, should give him the benefit of the doubt as he wont be able to defend himself personally as we do via this media. |
I do not believe anyone who views the video will come away feeling offended at what Wiseman says.
The comments to him from the crowd today were on a par with what we used to mock Bury for. | | | |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 19:03 - Aug 11 with 1136 views | mr_fri_night |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 18:59 - Aug 11 by ColDale |
I do not believe anyone who views the video will come away feeling offended at what Wiseman says.
The comments to him from the crowd today were on a par with what we used to mock Bury for. |
Spoke to Wiseman after game and he has read this board or been told about whats on it as he couldn't believe what people were saying. He asked us to point out he would never say anything but nice things about this club as he knows how much this club has helped his career. I havent heard the interview but knowing Wisey, there is no way he would say anything like that intentionally imo. | | | |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 19:06 - Aug 11 with 1127 views | SalwaDale |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 18:59 - Aug 11 by ColDale |
I do not believe anyone who views the video will come away feeling offended at what Wiseman says.
The comments to him from the crowd today were on a par with what we used to mock Bury for. |
Fortunately find't hear any comments aimed at him hut did see him reciprocate his applause pre-match and then clap all the Dale fans post-match. I think that shows his feelings towards us a lot more than an ill-judged turn of phrase.
Olympic, as someone who has done just the same in the last week I am surprised at your comments. |  |
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 19:06 - Aug 11 with 1125 views | 442Dale |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 19:03 - Aug 11 by mr_fri_night |
Spoke to Wiseman after game and he has read this board or been told about whats on it as he couldn't believe what people were saying. He asked us to point out he would never say anything but nice things about this club as he knows how much this club has helped his career. I havent heard the interview but knowing Wisey, there is no way he would say anything like that intentionally imo. |
Maybe PTV's fault.
Wisey on twitter, not knowing him at all:
Great team effort and win. Appreciated the reception from rochdale. Things said in the observer were exaggerated massively. |  |
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 19:20 - Aug 11 with 1106 views | olympicdale |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 19:06 - Aug 11 by SalwaDale |
Fortunately find't hear any comments aimed at him hut did see him reciprocate his applause pre-match and then clap all the Dale fans post-match. I think that shows his feelings towards us a lot more than an ill-judged turn of phrase.
Olympic, as someone who has done just the same in the last week I am surprised at your comments. |
I'm very happy to be proven wrong, it was just how I thought when I heard it first, admittedly a little ott, that it was reported in the media I thought there was something in it, and felt that it was extremely disrespectful that any player would say that. Yes I understand how things can be taken out of context as I, and many others have here, but im now glad to see he respects our club and what we've done for his career in making him the player he is. | |
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| (No subject) on 19:56 - Aug 11 with 1056 views | olympicdale |
great to hear that, he must have been really upset to do that, typical ob f*cking up once more. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| (No subject) on 19:57 - Aug 11 with 1053 views | stuartcryer |
| (No subject) on 00:52 - Aug 11 by olympicdale |
I knew he had this in him, always thought he was much better than he is.
f*ck you Wiseman, cheeky git, he's been found out at championship level, will be back in l1/l2 soon.
so what does it mean that you were released by us then, by this "nobody club" arsehole
this reminds me of the whole "where is rochdale" from Coventry all those years back, hope the same result, an we stuff 'em!. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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i agree had to play at left back today because there are two better players in front of him tosser | |
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| (No subject) on 19:58 - Aug 11 with 1048 views | 442Dale |
| (No subject) on 19:56 - Aug 11 by olympicdale |
great to hear that, he must have been really upset to do that, typical ob f*cking up once more. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Would be good to see the Ob's sport dept issue something now too. Especially as they have a regular 'tell us if we've got it wrong' feature.
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 20:05 - Aug 11 with 1032 views | funkkk |
Fair play to Scott nice of him to take the effort to set the record straight. |  | | |
| (No subject) on 20:08 - Aug 11 with 1017 views | dalenumber2 |
| (No subject) on 19:58 - Aug 11 by 442Dale |
Would be good to see the Ob's sport dept issue something now too. Especially as they have a regular 'tell us if we've got it wrong' feature.
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I bet the 'tell us if we've got it wrong' department is the busiest department in the building. I remember being quoted in the Observer once and I had never even said anything to them. |  | | |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 21:39 - Aug 11 with 944 views | wmgunit |
Fair play to Wiseman for issuing a statement. Him doing so shows that he is clearly disappointed about how this interview has been received. Whether it was a misjudged choice of phrase or a misquote by the Observer, it obviously wasn't what he actually menat to say.
Having read the interview I lean toward the view that it was a poor choice of words, with little ill-intent meant, rather than the Observer misquoting him. If you read the whole article he is very complimentary about Dale and the opportunity he received here. |  | | |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 21:41 - Aug 11 with 939 views | SalwaDale |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 21:39 - Aug 11 by wmgunit |
Fair play to Wiseman for issuing a statement. Him doing so shows that he is clearly disappointed about how this interview has been received. Whether it was a misjudged choice of phrase or a misquote by the Observer, it obviously wasn't what he actually menat to say.
Having read the interview I lean toward the view that it was a poor choice of words, with little ill-intent meant, rather than the Observer misquoting him. If you read the whole article he is very complimentary about Dale and the opportunity he received here. |
If you watch the video, not a misquote, just a misinterpretation or poor choice of words. | |
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| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 22:50 - Aug 11 with 883 views | Shun |
The fact that he's felt the need to issue a statement on an opposing website shows how much it upset him. I just hope Scott knows how highly he's thought of here by the vast majority of people. |  | | |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 23:21 - Aug 11 with 859 views | Clivert |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:40 - Aug 11 by AtThePeake |
Hmmm. I like the way we're all saying he was lucky to stay with us when Ramsden went.
We were lucky he came back to us, and we were lucky Ramsden left.
Doubt I'll ever see a more over-rated player than Simon Ramsden in a Dale shirt, maybe Scotty only looked as good as he did because we were used to Simon Ramsden. |
We were lucky aswell!
The way he ripped Sheffield Wednesday apart will live long in the memory! |  | | |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 23:42 - Aug 11 with 834 views | phomem |
| "Rochdale where a nobody club " on 12:26 - Aug 11 by olympicdale |
after reading the comments today, there are still some things i stand by from my original post. I dont believe this is a case of the ob twisting his words or reporting it wrongly, i think this is just a massive gaffe by wiseman, a very bad choice of words maybe, but i was always under the impression he thought he was better than us, just by his body language and by the interviews he gave, reading between the lines. Does he really have that hard an axe to grind against us, did we fight too hard to deny him his move, either way just shows how stupid footballers can truely be. |
Not a gaffe, see wisemans statement |  | | |
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