| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... 16:35 - Jan 28 with 6716 views | fLaMeBoY |
1/ Trying not to be too downbeat but we really were utter garbage today, particularly attacking wise. Stood off Chelsea virtually all game and just watched Chelsea pass the ball around us.
2/ No passion, effort, desire and an overall horrendous lack of quality. We didn’t even look like a plucky League One team, let along a Premiership, as we created nothing — one shot on goal in the 96th minutes aside.
3/ Time and time again we had miss-placed passes, mis-controlling the ball, crap corners, no movement, basic throw-ins cocked up and so on.
4/ SWP played like every bit the right-footed winger asked to play ion the left. Continuously cut inside EVERY time he got the ball and every time lost the ball. SWP QPR career summed up with the last kick of the game when he was just outside the box with no player within 10 yards of him and he hit the half volley into the upper loft.
Mackie was hopeless as ever. Not his fault, he is simply not good enough and shouldn’t be in the team but there is no other option right now.
5/ Kenny is obviously carrying an injury with his goal kicks barely making it to the halfway line putting us continuously on the back foot. He actually signalled to the bench in the first half that he was struggling. I can see a replacement coming in before Wednesday.
6/ Smith up front with Helguson painfully didn’t work. I like Smith but just like last week he should only be used as sub for us to bring on against lower opposition. When he starts games against strong opposition the game simply passes him by.
7/ Macheda is simply turd. How he picks a wage up to be a footballer is beyond me. Sadly as it stands he (and Hulse!) will be starting on Wednesday at Villa. My word.
8/ Three days left in the window and we are pinning our hopes on a 34 year old player to score the goals to keep us up. Helguson is now picking up knocks and legs probably shot to pieces after the efforts of the first half of the season. If we fail to bring in at least one quality striker we really will be in massive trouble.
9/ On the positives we really did look at lot more organised. Defensively again a huge improvement with Chelsea having next to nothing on target — an amazing feat considering Hall and Hill where playing.
10/ Another positive is that is surely the last we will see of Hill and Hall. They did ok today but we all know they are just one good 90 minutes away from a shocker.
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 07:50 - Jan 29 with 1223 views | real_loftus |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 19:45 - Jan 28 by wittle |
dont feel to bad about our performance today,we lost to a shocking decision and i couldnt see them scoring any other way.You only have to look at our team sheet to see we are punching well above our weight,we looked solid today and once we add a bit more quality in the forward areas we should be ok. |
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 08:05 - Jan 29 with 1215 views | cheeseydane |
Think positive.
This could be our team in the next week or two.
Kenny
Young Ferdinand Onuoha Twittwu
SWP BlokefromMali Barton Traore
HH plus one from Adel/Fabledmysterystriker/Campbell/Judethecat/Hulse etc.
Plus maybe we can hope maybe Samba, Pieneer, or another. You never know.
Not too despondent. Glad to be out of the cup. And as has ben said, we are starting to look much more solid.
Onwards and upwards and all that.
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 09:29 - Jan 29 with 1179 views | ElHoop |
I thought that Chelsea played pretty well given the shambles of their previous visit. They gave nothing away and worked the ball around to try to find a bit of space, which mostly wasn't there, but they could retain possession in doing that, which was what we found difficult. Their players were mostly androgynous in their appearance - they all had the same sort of shape but could run and work non-stop for the 90 minutes. By comparison a lot of our players just didn't look in anywhere the same sort of shape.
Torres and Helguson/Macheda was an interesting comparison. I thought that Torres did quite well. The way they play at the moment, he hardly gets a chance to score, so no wonder he doesn't score many, but he fitted into their shape, tried to work the ball and find some space. For us, Helguson doesn't have that guile and mobility in the tight areas at this sort of level, and neither did Macheda. It's very difficult. I can't see Chelsea scoring many goals lining up like that, but they won't concede many either. As for us, I'm not sure how we are going to score against the good sides with the current approach. There was literally no penetration. You can't blame Helga or Macheda for that. I thought that SWP had a poor game, as did Luke Young. For some reason it's easier to slag off Macheda round here. SWP just doesn't make the right decisions and Young seems to panic a little when under pressure. It was so tight that any mistakes could have been severely punished. The penalty obviously wasn't a penalty but we probably wouldn't have scored if we were still playing now.
All in all, Chelsea deserved the win and they'll be very hard to beat from now on with their team of android workaholics. Our midfield 4 didn't look very mobile - lacked pace and mental awareness most of the time - always under pressure from the androids. We need to find one or two better players in the middle four. Traore would I think be a big improvement on Smith in that respect. Barton was just about able to keep up with the pace but was still under too much pressure in his decision making. Buz was just too slow at this level. Mackie looks big and cumbersome compared to his opponents yesterday. He could never impose his physicality as the androids just worked around and pestered him.
Fortunately we don't have to play them every week. Just accept - they were pretty good. Even their fans weren't too bad yesterday to be truthful. For Chelsea it was a good day all round. For us, we should be Ok but we need to keep working at it and a few more coming in would definitely help. |  | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 09:44 - Jan 29 with 1164 views | CHUBBS |
Defensively we looked as good as we have all season and i'm sure our attack will improve once we get a little more pace and quality in the side.
I thinh MH is doing just fine at present making us a difficult team to roll over.
Lets be honest here,we had 5-6 championship players out there yesterday whilst they put a team worth hundreds of millions on the pitch and still needed one of their players to cheat to win the game.
I know it was them at home and we all expected more but if we play like that against Villa i can see us getting a result all day long. |  | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 10:09 - Jan 29 with 1143 views | pomanjou |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 09:29 - Jan 29 by ElHoop |
I thought that Chelsea played pretty well given the shambles of their previous visit. They gave nothing away and worked the ball around to try to find a bit of space, which mostly wasn't there, but they could retain possession in doing that, which was what we found difficult. Their players were mostly androgynous in their appearance - they all had the same sort of shape but could run and work non-stop for the 90 minutes. By comparison a lot of our players just didn't look in anywhere the same sort of shape.
Torres and Helguson/Macheda was an interesting comparison. I thought that Torres did quite well. The way they play at the moment, he hardly gets a chance to score, so no wonder he doesn't score many, but he fitted into their shape, tried to work the ball and find some space. For us, Helguson doesn't have that guile and mobility in the tight areas at this sort of level, and neither did Macheda. It's very difficult. I can't see Chelsea scoring many goals lining up like that, but they won't concede many either. As for us, I'm not sure how we are going to score against the good sides with the current approach. There was literally no penetration. You can't blame Helga or Macheda for that. I thought that SWP had a poor game, as did Luke Young. For some reason it's easier to slag off Macheda round here. SWP just doesn't make the right decisions and Young seems to panic a little when under pressure. It was so tight that any mistakes could have been severely punished. The penalty obviously wasn't a penalty but we probably wouldn't have scored if we were still playing now.
All in all, Chelsea deserved the win and they'll be very hard to beat from now on with their team of android workaholics. Our midfield 4 didn't look very mobile - lacked pace and mental awareness most of the time - always under pressure from the androids. We need to find one or two better players in the middle four. Traore would I think be a big improvement on Smith in that respect. Barton was just about able to keep up with the pace but was still under too much pressure in his decision making. Buz was just too slow at this level. Mackie looks big and cumbersome compared to his opponents yesterday. He could never impose his physicality as the androids just worked around and pestered him.
Fortunately we don't have to play them every week. Just accept - they were pretty good. Even their fans weren't too bad yesterday to be truthful. For Chelsea it was a good day all round. For us, we should be Ok but we need to keep working at it and a few more coming in would definitely help. |
Dont agree with all but thats a very fair general reflection of the facts. |  |
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 10:23 - Jan 29 with 1139 views | daveB |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 06:18 - Jan 29 by timcocking |
Unfortunately, i have to agree.
I don't understand how we can play so well (Man City, Wolves away etc.) 1 week and look like England in South Africa the next week! |
i thought both teams were terrible, thats what happens when the fa get invovled and warn players about a game, not a single tackle by either team, it was like a pre season game.
I think the save from Young at the end was the only save from open play by either side all game. The only way Chelsea were going to score was a penalty and they were gifted one.
We can take positives though and with a bit more ambition in the final third I think a draw at the very least was here for the taking.
Torres was abysmal for them, he looked as bored and disinterested as Macheda. |  | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 10:27 - Jan 29 with 1132 views | timcocking |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 09:29 - Jan 29 by ElHoop |
I thought that Chelsea played pretty well given the shambles of their previous visit. They gave nothing away and worked the ball around to try to find a bit of space, which mostly wasn't there, but they could retain possession in doing that, which was what we found difficult. Their players were mostly androgynous in their appearance - they all had the same sort of shape but could run and work non-stop for the 90 minutes. By comparison a lot of our players just didn't look in anywhere the same sort of shape.
Torres and Helguson/Macheda was an interesting comparison. I thought that Torres did quite well. The way they play at the moment, he hardly gets a chance to score, so no wonder he doesn't score many, but he fitted into their shape, tried to work the ball and find some space. For us, Helguson doesn't have that guile and mobility in the tight areas at this sort of level, and neither did Macheda. It's very difficult. I can't see Chelsea scoring many goals lining up like that, but they won't concede many either. As for us, I'm not sure how we are going to score against the good sides with the current approach. There was literally no penetration. You can't blame Helga or Macheda for that. I thought that SWP had a poor game, as did Luke Young. For some reason it's easier to slag off Macheda round here. SWP just doesn't make the right decisions and Young seems to panic a little when under pressure. It was so tight that any mistakes could have been severely punished. The penalty obviously wasn't a penalty but we probably wouldn't have scored if we were still playing now.
All in all, Chelsea deserved the win and they'll be very hard to beat from now on with their team of android workaholics. Our midfield 4 didn't look very mobile - lacked pace and mental awareness most of the time - always under pressure from the androids. We need to find one or two better players in the middle four. Traore would I think be a big improvement on Smith in that respect. Barton was just about able to keep up with the pace but was still under too much pressure in his decision making. Buz was just too slow at this level. Mackie looks big and cumbersome compared to his opponents yesterday. He could never impose his physicality as the androids just worked around and pestered him.
Fortunately we don't have to play them every week. Just accept - they were pretty good. Even their fans weren't too bad yesterday to be truthful. For Chelsea it was a good day all round. For us, we should be Ok but we need to keep working at it and a few more coming in would definitely help. |
androgynous? both male and female? David Luiz perhaps. Maybe that's what the gender reassignment stuff was all about. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 10:33 - Jan 29 with 1121 views | ted_hendrix |
Absolute shit game of football, one of the worst i've seen at LR for Years. |  |
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 10:35 - Jan 29 with 1115 views | ElHoop |
Androgynous wasn't the right word then. I was looking for the word for android-like. Probably android was the right word! | | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 11:00 - Jan 29 with 1100 views | TW_R |
Torres - £50 million
Ramires - £13 million
Meireles - £12 Million
Mata - £23.5 million
Ivanović - £10 million
Luiz - £20 million (Approx)
Cech - £7 million
Malouda - £13 million
Cole - £5 million (plus Gallas)
Sturridge - £3.5 million
Romeu - £4 million
Essien - £24.4 million |  | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 11:06 - Jan 29 with 1090 views | themodfather |
a very poor showing from qpr...i had the feeling we rolled over to keep "them" happy.
a low key lack lustre performance
won with a real soft penalty
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 12:53 - Jan 29 with 1054 views | HollowayRanger |
i agree i think the players were warned before hand not to dive in and cause a riot
it was almost preseason ,we were very good defence wise but terrible attack wise but we have good reason to be what was chelseas excuse?
a team going for the title and champions league that couldnt get a single shot of worth or create a single chance of note apart from a dive |  |
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 17:05 - Jan 29 with 1017 views | DylanP |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 11:00 - Jan 29 by TW_R |
Torres - £50 million
Ramires - £13 million
Meireles - £12 Million
Mata - £23.5 million
Ivanović - £10 million
Luiz - £20 million (Approx)
Cech - £7 million
Malouda - £13 million
Cole - £5 million (plus Gallas)
Sturridge - £3.5 million
Romeu - £4 million
Essien - £24.4 million |
EXACTLY!!
THANKS for stating the bleedin obvious. We were beat by a dodgy penalty by a team that doesn't have a single player who cost less than Faurlin who, at £3.5 million is the most expensive player in all of QPR's history!!!
£185 million for the team? TF paid £35 million for a 66% share of the entire club, and that includes the players, the ground, the training ground, and everything else associated with the club.
THEY HAVE 8 PLAYERS WHO EACH COST MORE THAN THE ENTIRE QPR TEAM PUT TOGETHER.
Come on people. It was a dire game but in this 'money rules' era, we are always going to have a hard time containing those teams that can afford £50 million for one player. |  |
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 19:18 - Jan 29 with 977 views | wittle |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 11:06 - Jan 29 by themodfather |
a very poor showing from qpr...i had the feeling we rolled over to keep "them" happy.
a low key lack lustre performance
won with a real soft penalty
and empty seats wasn't a good sight. |
rubbish we rolled over against man utd but not yesterday.we were down to the bare bones and didnt have the quality to hurt them. | | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 19:23 - Jan 29 with 965 views | CHUBBS |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 17:05 - Jan 29 by DylanP |
EXACTLY!!
THANKS for stating the bleedin obvious. We were beat by a dodgy penalty by a team that doesn't have a single player who cost less than Faurlin who, at £3.5 million is the most expensive player in all of QPR's history!!!
£185 million for the team? TF paid £35 million for a 66% share of the entire club, and that includes the players, the ground, the training ground, and everything else associated with the club.
THEY HAVE 8 PLAYERS WHO EACH COST MORE THAN THE ENTIRE QPR TEAM PUT TOGETHER.
Come on people. It was a dire game but in this 'money rules' era, we are always going to have a hard time containing those teams that can afford £50 million for one player. |
3.5 mill for Faurlin???
Were you on Mars for the last 2 months last season?  | | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 20:00 - Jan 29 with 907 views | Red_Ranger |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 09:29 - Jan 29 by ElHoop |
I thought that Chelsea played pretty well given the shambles of their previous visit. They gave nothing away and worked the ball around to try to find a bit of space, which mostly wasn't there, but they could retain possession in doing that, which was what we found difficult. Their players were mostly androgynous in their appearance - they all had the same sort of shape but could run and work non-stop for the 90 minutes. By comparison a lot of our players just didn't look in anywhere the same sort of shape.
Torres and Helguson/Macheda was an interesting comparison. I thought that Torres did quite well. The way they play at the moment, he hardly gets a chance to score, so no wonder he doesn't score many, but he fitted into their shape, tried to work the ball and find some space. For us, Helguson doesn't have that guile and mobility in the tight areas at this sort of level, and neither did Macheda. It's very difficult. I can't see Chelsea scoring many goals lining up like that, but they won't concede many either. As for us, I'm not sure how we are going to score against the good sides with the current approach. There was literally no penetration. You can't blame Helga or Macheda for that. I thought that SWP had a poor game, as did Luke Young. For some reason it's easier to slag off Macheda round here. SWP just doesn't make the right decisions and Young seems to panic a little when under pressure. It was so tight that any mistakes could have been severely punished. The penalty obviously wasn't a penalty but we probably wouldn't have scored if we were still playing now.
All in all, Chelsea deserved the win and they'll be very hard to beat from now on with their team of android workaholics. Our midfield 4 didn't look very mobile - lacked pace and mental awareness most of the time - always under pressure from the androids. We need to find one or two better players in the middle four. Traore would I think be a big improvement on Smith in that respect. Barton was just about able to keep up with the pace but was still under too much pressure in his decision making. Buz was just too slow at this level. Mackie looks big and cumbersome compared to his opponents yesterday. He could never impose his physicality as the androids just worked around and pestered him.
Fortunately we don't have to play them every week. Just accept - they were pretty good. Even their fans weren't too bad yesterday to be truthful. For Chelsea it was a good day all round. For us, we should be Ok but we need to keep working at it and a few more coming in would definitely help. |
dont agree
Thought they played better with 9 men against us.
AVB is dud.
That team is going backwards and long may it continue.
On paper they should have beaten us 3-0 twice.
They looked devoid of ideas and Torres is now a joke.
I wish them the worst.
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 20:02 - Jan 29 with 902 views | wittle |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 20:00 - Jan 29 by Red_Ranger |
dont agree
Thought they played better with 9 men against us.
AVB is dud.
That team is going backwards and long may it continue.
On paper they should have beaten us 3-0 twice.
They looked devoid of ideas and Torres is now a joke.
I wish them the worst.
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agree chelsea wernt hurting us at all problem was we wernt hurting them either. | | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 20:05 - Jan 29 with 897 views | Northernr |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 20:00 - Jan 29 by Red_Ranger |
dont agree
Thought they played better with 9 men against us.
AVB is dud.
That team is going backwards and long may it continue.
On paper they should have beaten us 3-0 twice.
They looked devoid of ideas and Torres is now a joke.
I wish them the worst.
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They were more threatening against us with nine for one reason - Torres. It was like they had ten men yesterday. They were better without him with only nine men than having 11 and him up front. |  | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 20:23 - Jan 29 with 867 views | ElHoop |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 20:00 - Jan 29 by Red_Ranger |
dont agree
Thought they played better with 9 men against us.
AVB is dud.
That team is going backwards and long may it continue.
On paper they should have beaten us 3-0 twice.
They looked devoid of ideas and Torres is now a joke.
I wish them the worst.
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Well we'll soon see who is right won't we.
The manager has clearly had problems down there. He promised to play attacking football to keep the idiot chairman happy, but he couldn't find a structure that worked. The league game they lost because they tried to defend too far up the pitch, presumably so that they could apply more pressure from the back. We kept catching them on the break. Yesterday wasn't like that. They defended deep and played from the back. They didn't make many inroads because we played like an away side and kept behind the ball. Only a blind man could blame Torres for that. They reminded me of us when we played MK Dons. Clearly they had been away working on a new structure and it wasn't all there, but they looked as if they are going somewhere. If you are watching football, you can't just judge everything by the moment, it's about recognising that something might be a work in progress. Plenty on here slaughtered our side for the performance against MKD. As it happened, we were trying to sort out a new style. i think that Chelsea are doing that too. I hate the bustards but you've still got to look at them dispassionately as a footballing outfit.
I wouldn't be surprised if they flattened Swansea next time. We pushed back Swansea and this Chelsea side could do that a lot better than we did it. Torres will score a couple against Swansea and Chelsea will romp home, because Swansea won't keep it tight like we did yesterday.
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 13:39 - Jan 30 with 815 views | W7Ranger |
At times it looked to me like we were showing them too much respect. I couldn't believe how much we stood off them, completely different to how were when we played them in October.
Or is it a sign how you play when we're "keeping our shape"? eg, 2 solid banks of 4?
Would have liked to have seen us "get in their faces" a bit. Make it uncomfortable for them, get the crowd going, wind them up. Didn't see any of that which was a bit disappointing.
Fully aware we had several key players missing that could (and probably would) have started in Traore, Faurlin, Tarbs, Bothroyd - but still thought we woud've got at them a bit more and pressed them a little.
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 13:52 - Jan 30 with 802 views | wittle |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 13:39 - Jan 30 by W7Ranger |
At times it looked to me like we were showing them too much respect. I couldn't believe how much we stood off them, completely different to how were when we played them in October.
Or is it a sign how you play when we're "keeping our shape"? eg, 2 solid banks of 4?
Would have liked to have seen us "get in their faces" a bit. Make it uncomfortable for them, get the crowd going, wind them up. Didn't see any of that which was a bit disappointing.
Fully aware we had several key players missing that could (and probably would) have started in Traore, Faurlin, Tarbs, Bothroyd - but still thought we woud've got at them a bit more and pressed them a little.
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it was a crap game but we were probably a set peice away from winning the game we just lacked that bit of quality to execute it sadly. | | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 14:28 - Jan 30 with 789 views | W7Ranger |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 13:52 - Jan 30 by wittle |
it was a crap game but we were probably a set peice away from winning the game we just lacked that bit of quality to execute it sadly. |
Oh yeah, and why the fukk is Barton taking our set pieces??? Surely MH must've have seen the quality of Buzz's delivery's from Free kick's and corners to realise he should be taking the set peices and not Barton???
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 14:29 - Jan 30 with 786 views | Northernr |
Barton put in three or four excellent set pieces on Saturday, sadly he finished with three awful ones so that's what people remember. | | | |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 14:35 - Jan 30 with 769 views | W7Ranger |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 14:29 - Jan 30 by Northernr |
Barton put in three or four excellent set pieces on Saturday, sadly he finished with three awful ones so that's what people remember. |
If they both start on Wednesday (unlikely I know as Buzz appears to be struggling), who would you want to see taking our set pieces?
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| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 14:40 - Jan 30 with 763 views | Northernr |
| Just got back, a few thoughts/observations.... on 14:35 - Jan 30 by W7Ranger |
If they both start on Wednesday (unlikely I know as Buzz appears to be struggling), who would you want to see taking our set pieces?
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Buzsaky, but to say that all of Barton's set pieces on Saturday were bad is incorrect. | | | |
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