| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. 10:56 - Jan 5 with 4622 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Darling is leaving. Precedent suggests there is no chance of signing a new deal.
If Swansea can get even £1m for him that would be good business.
For his remaining 20 weeks that would work out at £50k a week. Add his wages of say £5-6k that is £55k a week saved.
Bring in Low and money for a quality loan striker like Barry from Villa if the plan is to go for top 6. |  |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 16:55 - Jan 5 with 1081 views | Whiterockin |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 16:51 - Jan 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Why waste time and just tell me. As potential poster of the year you should give value to the forum and not fiddle about.
He can earn more elsewhere which is why he has not re signed. He can have his new monthly salary next month if he wants. If he is as very low wages relatively then he has an incentive to move this January. |
OK currently £15K a week plus. |  | | |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 18:16 - Jan 5 with 960 views | QJumpingJack |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 16:27 - Jan 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The club have a beefed up recruitment team not sitting on their hands. They do now.. yours is a particularly passive position.
In my opinion Darling has been kidding the club that re-signing was a possibility. I suspect it never was.
I have given you the economic basics for a minimal £1m fee. That is £56,000 a week write down. Selling him puts the club back in control of their finances.
It is my bet if Low is signed and he is told he has played his last game for Swansea he will go. Players have 24 half seasons in the game . He cannot afford to waste a half season doing nothing on low wages while turning down good money. [Post edited 5 Jan 16:31]
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"beefed up recruitment team" - we have not replaced Watson who himself said there was no process in place when he joined. |  | | |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 19:05 - Jan 5 with 903 views | Polskijack |
6 months is a long time in football. All it takes is for him to have a major injury (hope not) and any suitors would think twice. It's a risk for him to wait and run down his contract. |  | | |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 19:13 - Jan 5 with 879 views | QJumpingJack |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 19:05 - Jan 5 by Polskijack |
6 months is a long time in football. All it takes is for him to have a major injury (hope not) and any suitors would think twice. It's a risk for him to wait and run down his contract. |
I would expect Darling to be with another club by 1st Feb. | | | |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 19:16 - Jan 5 with 871 views | Whiterockin |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 19:05 - Jan 5 by Polskijack |
6 months is a long time in football. All it takes is for him to have a major injury (hope not) and any suitors would think twice. It's a risk for him to wait and run down his contract. |
That's what insurance is for. As a club we cover players with basic insurance, some clubs don't. Players often pay their own insurance. Alfie Mawson explained this in detail. | | | |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 19:20 - Jan 5 with 844 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 16:55 - Jan 5 by Whiterockin |
OK currently £15K a week plus. |
More the reason to get rid. If running down a deal do not expect a gold watch . | |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:09 - Jan 5 with 792 views | onehunglow |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 19:20 - Jan 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
More the reason to get rid. If running down a deal do not expect a gold watch . |
Have to say,yiu have a point .
Get Low in first though and don’t risk getting rid of Darling and not replacing
We’ve done this before | |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:18 - Jan 5 with 756 views | Whiterockin |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:09 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
Have to say,yiu have a point .
Get Low in first though and don’t risk getting rid of Darling and not replacing
We’ve done this before |
It's entirely up to Darling if he goes or not. If he stays the next 6 months he will get a signing on fee to set him and his family up for life. Take the personalities out of it, what would you do. | | | |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:31 - Jan 5 with 720 views | onehunglow |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:18 - Jan 5 by Whiterockin |
It's entirely up to Darling if he goes or not. If he stays the next 6 months he will get a signing on fee to set him and his family up for life. Take the personalities out of it, what would you do. |
Me?
Well,personally, I would have looked at another club well before now seeing the coaching set up and tactics deployed
Doesn’t Darkingblove the club/ city/ people like Grimes does (apparently)
Nobody seems to want Grimes however . | |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:41 - Jan 5 with 694 views | Whiterockin |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:31 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
Me?
Well,personally, I would have looked at another club well before now seeing the coaching set up and tactics deployed
Doesn’t Darkingblove the club/ city/ people like Grimes does (apparently)
Nobody seems to want Grimes however . |
Grimes is on over £20K a week and has been for a while. With two and a half years left on his contract he doesn't need to go anywhere, he and his family are already set up for life. | | | |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:44 - Jan 5 with 674 views | Dr_Winston |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:41 - Jan 5 by Whiterockin |
Grimes is on over £20K a week and has been for a while. With two and a half years left on his contract he doesn't need to go anywhere, he and his family are already set up for life. |
And we offered him that despite no serious interest from elsewhere. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:51 - Jan 5 with 649 views | Whiterockin |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:44 - Jan 5 by Dr_Winston |
And we offered him that despite no serious interest from elsewhere. |
True. Sometimes we need to take the personal like or dislike out of it when looking at the finances of players. If you work it out as pounds per minutes played he would not be one of our most expensive players. | | | |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:55 - Jan 5 with 628 views | onehunglow |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:51 - Jan 5 by Whiterockin |
True. Sometimes we need to take the personal like or dislike out of it when looking at the finances of players. If you work it out as pounds per minutes played he would not be one of our most expensive players. |
It’s not personal dislike merely the fact is is club captain and represents the players .
We are parsimonious and that salary is simply ludicrous .
I can see why he loved Swansea etc | |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:57 - Jan 5 with 620 views | Dr_Winston |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:51 - Jan 5 by Whiterockin |
True. Sometimes we need to take the personal like or dislike out of it when looking at the finances of players. If you work it out as pounds per minutes played he would not be one of our most expensive players. |
I wonder if how much we're paying him factors into the amount of minutes he gets.
To me we're overpaying him by at least £250k per season. Maybe double that. Football is full of clubs who make bonkers financial decisions so I doubt that we're the only team to offer a player a bumper payrise to stave off no interest, but it's still annoying. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:57 - Jan 5 with 619 views | Whiterockin |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 20:55 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
It’s not personal dislike merely the fact is is club captain and represents the players .
We are parsimonious and that salary is simply ludicrous .
I can see why he loved Swansea etc |
Pederson on £19K a week is worse. | | | |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 21:02 - Jan 5 with 598 views | onehunglow |
Dear God.
It is
Iesu mawr
Any good news? | |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 21:13 - Jan 5 with 568 views | Whiterockin |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 21:02 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
Dear God.
It is
Iesu mawr
Any good news? |
The salaries of players have a direct bearing on contract negotiations of other players. Darling was originally offered a new contract worth less than he currently earns. This is why he was peed off. Particularly when he knows a defender who is useless and doesn't play is earning more. You have to concider this when looking at his and other players actions. I don't blame him for playing hardball now. | | | |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 22:14 - Jan 5 with 469 views | STID2017 |
No one knows who is going or who is coming in for certain.
If we offer him a decent contract he may well sign
Or he may go to Leeds ( who clearly need a good centre half judging by yesterday's goalfest)
The only certainty in life is death.
Other than that none of us knows what will happen with Harry |  |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 22:47 - Jan 5 with 427 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 22:14 - Jan 5 by STID2017 |
No one knows who is going or who is coming in for certain.
If we offer him a decent contract he may well sign
Or he may go to Leeds ( who clearly need a good centre half judging by yesterday's goalfest)
The only certainty in life is death.
Other than that none of us knows what will happen with Harry |
It is not a mystery. He wants to leave Swansea that is why he will not sign a new deal. I suspect he never had any intention of signing.
Swansea need to encourage him to leave. They should have signed credible centre- backs before.
It costs Swansea £65,000* a week to keep him in until July in wages and devaluation. Sign Low and tell him to find a new club
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 22:54 - Jan 5 with 394 views | STID2017 |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 22:47 - Jan 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is not a mystery. He wants to leave Swansea that is why he will not sign a new deal. I suspect he never had any intention of signing.
Swansea need to encourage him to leave. They should have signed credible centre- backs before.
It costs Swansea £65,000* a week to keep him in until July in wages and devaluation. Sign Low and tell him to find a new club
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So suppose we let him go, Cabango sustains an injury and we do not sign Low ( or another suitable replacement) or alternatively we do sign them but they fall short of the mark ?
We could easily tumble towards the bottom of the league ( far better clubs than us have suffered that fate )
Then the £65k we save that you quote to keep him per week would be at the cost of relegation
As we found in 2018, it is easy to go down
Not at all easy to come back up | |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 23:00 - Jan 5 with 383 views | Dr_Winston |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 22:54 - Jan 5 by STID2017 |
So suppose we let him go, Cabango sustains an injury and we do not sign Low ( or another suitable replacement) or alternatively we do sign them but they fall short of the mark ?
We could easily tumble towards the bottom of the league ( far better clubs than us have suffered that fate )
Then the £65k we save that you quote to keep him per week would be at the cost of relegation
As we found in 2018, it is easy to go down
Not at all easy to come back up |
We're not going to get relegated.
As much as some people like to pretend that we've got one of the worst squads in the division, we don't. Not even close. Williams is doing his best to make it look like we do, but we don't. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 23:28 - Jan 5 with 365 views | STID2017 |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 23:00 - Jan 5 by Dr_Winston |
We're not going to get relegated.
As much as some people like to pretend that we've got one of the worst squads in the division, we don't. Not even close. Williams is doing his best to make it look like we do, but we don't. |
I wish I shared your faith.
However two wins that rather papered over the cracks against poor sides, a shocking defeat against an ordinary Portsmouth side followed by a fortunate draw against a team whom, had we not had Darling in defence would have handed us another drubbing suggests otherwise.
We are down to the bare bones now.
Take any more quality out of that side be it through transfers, injuries or loss of form , and we could well be in a relegation dogfight | |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 23:34 - Jan 5 with 354 views | Dr_Winston |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 23:28 - Jan 5 by STID2017 |
I wish I shared your faith.
However two wins that rather papered over the cracks against poor sides, a shocking defeat against an ordinary Portsmouth side followed by a fortunate draw against a team whom, had we not had Darling in defence would have handed us another drubbing suggests otherwise.
We are down to the bare bones now.
Take any more quality out of that side be it through transfers, injuries or loss of form , and we could well be in a relegation dogfight |
Again, you're confusing piss poor managerial decisions for a lack of ability in the squad.
It's OK. Loads of people do it. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 23:52 - Jan 5 with 342 views | STID2017 |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 23:34 - Jan 5 by Dr_Winston |
Again, you're confusing piss poor managerial decisions for a lack of ability in the squad.
It's OK. Loads of people do it. |
Not confusing anything and no need to be rude, smarmy and arrogant
We have no strength in depth.
Take away Franco, Darling, Cullen, and Cabango from our first choice eleven and the result will be a Portsmouth style result every game.
If you could not see how dominant WBA were yesterday and how much we had Darling to thank yesterday for his part then maybe you are watching a different game from most of us.
Take Darling out of that defence yesterday and you honestly believe we would have drawn ? | |
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| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 00:30 - Jan 6 with 324 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| There is no economic logic in keeping Darling. on 22:54 - Jan 5 by STID2017 |
So suppose we let him go, Cabango sustains an injury and we do not sign Low ( or another suitable replacement) or alternatively we do sign them but they fall short of the mark ?
We could easily tumble towards the bottom of the league ( far better clubs than us have suffered that fate )
Then the £65k we save that you quote to keep him per week would be at the cost of relegation
As we found in 2018, it is easy to go down
Not at all easy to come back up |
Why would Swansea not sign a replacement? Your scenario is worst case assuming that no one at Fairwood is working. Are they all playing golf in galoshes?
Of course they will sign someone WR reckons Darling us on £15k+ in a week or so. No one outside the championship is on that and probably few in Europe outside the super clubs.
If the recruitment is any good for that money they would find a top player.
Lissah is also highly rated but our of the picture atm and untested.
Then there are ths loan options like Nat Phillips or equivalent. He has been jobbing around the championship for a while Liverpool unwilling to release him for a sensible fee presumably. | |
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