| Well done Welsh Govt on 16:08 - Aug 2 with 1413 views | Whiterockin |
Cut the speed limit to 10mph and you could improve the figures even more. It's all about a sensible approach which the Senedd have failed to grasp although they are now backtracking. Nobody objects to 20mph where it is necessary, it's the default speed limit that is the issue. Until the statistics are able to prove exactly where the numbers have decreased the survey is pointless to say it is in 20mph and 30mph means it is most of Wales. |  | |  |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 16:18 - Aug 2 with 1393 views | union_jack |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 16:08 - Aug 2 by Whiterockin |
Cut the speed limit to 10mph and you could improve the figures even more. It's all about a sensible approach which the Senedd have failed to grasp although they are now backtracking. Nobody objects to 20mph where it is necessary, it's the default speed limit that is the issue. Until the statistics are able to prove exactly where the numbers have decreased the survey is pointless to say it is in 20mph and 30mph means it is most of Wales. |
Or ban cars altogether and get road deaths down to zero AND achieve their green agenda objectives as well. What’s not to like.😒 |  |
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 16:20 - Aug 2 with 1386 views | Whiterockin |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 16:18 - Aug 2 by union_jack |
Or ban cars altogether and get road deaths down to zero AND achieve their green agenda objectives as well. What’s not to like.😒 |
Exactly, it's all about a sensible balance. | | | |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 16:40 - Aug 2 with 1346 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Combined 20 and 30 mph data, why when this data has very clear granularity? |  |
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 17:34 - Aug 2 with 1297 views | controversial_jack |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 16:08 - Aug 2 by Whiterockin |
Cut the speed limit to 10mph and you could improve the figures even more. It's all about a sensible approach which the Senedd have failed to grasp although they are now backtracking. Nobody objects to 20mph where it is necessary, it's the default speed limit that is the issue. Until the statistics are able to prove exactly where the numbers have decreased the survey is pointless to say it is in 20mph and 30mph means it is most of Wales. |
What they have done is cut deaths and injuries. That's good enough for me |  | | |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 17:51 - Aug 2 with 1267 views | Whiterockin |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 17:34 - Aug 2 by controversial_jack |
What they have done is cut deaths and injuries. That's good enough for me |
Easily satisfied and obviously can't see the bigger picture. Spend the money getting NHS Wales up to standard and more lives could be saved. | | | |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 17:53 - Aug 2 with 1258 views | Flashberryjack |
You can wangle data to get the result you want, it's been done before. |  |
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 17:56 - Aug 2 with 1245 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 17:53 - Aug 2 by Flashberryjack |
You can wangle data to get the result you want, it's been done before. |
That is why they have combined 20 and 30 mph data! | |
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 18:02 - Aug 2 with 1243 views | Dr_Winston |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 17:56 - Aug 2 by JACKMANANDBOY |
That is why they have combined 20 and 30 mph data! |
A cursory glance over previous years also suggests several double digit drops in the same with no 20mph.
It's fairly obvious that certain organisations are manipulating data in an attempt to convince the gullible, and it appears to be working. |  |
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 18:15 - Aug 2 with 1232 views | Whiterockin |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 18:02 - Aug 2 by Dr_Winston |
A cursory glance over previous years also suggests several double digit drops in the same with no 20mph.
It's fairly obvious that certain organisations are manipulating data in an attempt to convince the gullible, and it appears to be working. |
You either have to be extremely gullible or a complete idiot not to see through it. [Post edited 2 Aug 18:16]
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 18:19 - Aug 2 with 1206 views | Flashberryjack |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 18:15 - Aug 2 by Whiterockin |
You either have to be extremely gullible or a complete idiot not to see through it. [Post edited 2 Aug 18:16]
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Some are both. | |
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 18:39 - Aug 2 with 1163 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 18:02 - Aug 2 by Dr_Winston |
A cursory glance over previous years also suggests several double digit drops in the same with no 20mph.
It's fairly obvious that certain organisations are manipulating data in an attempt to convince the gullible, and it appears to be working. |
Exactly, reprehensible behaviour, the opposition parties should be all over this data, It also highlights the problems with biased journalism. | |
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 20:10 - Aug 2 with 1079 views | felixstowe_jack |
No mention that roads deaths In Wales actual increased by 10% last year. Once again it has proved the most dangerous roads in Wales are single carriageways A and B roads with 60mph limits.
Wonder why the Welsh government figures are so selection only January to March. Why no figures from September to December? You need at least a years figures to even get a rough estimate and to see long term trends. Low figures in first three months could be due to mild weather no snow or ice. | |
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 20:44 - Aug 2 with 1042 views | controversial_jack |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 17:51 - Aug 2 by Whiterockin |
Easily satisfied and obviously can't see the bigger picture. Spend the money getting NHS Wales up to standard and more lives could be saved. |
Less deaths and trauma will save the NHS money and resources. Come on, it's not rocket science | | | |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 19:16 - Aug 3 with 854 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 20:10 - Aug 2 by felixstowe_jack |
No mention that roads deaths In Wales actual increased by 10% last year. Once again it has proved the most dangerous roads in Wales are single carriageways A and B roads with 60mph limits.
Wonder why the Welsh government figures are so selection only January to March. Why no figures from September to December? You need at least a years figures to even get a rough estimate and to see long term trends. Low figures in first three months could be due to mild weather no snow or ice. |
It has barely affected mee at all. I welcome this change IF IT WORKS and hope they will continue to gather data for the long term trends. If the changes are minimal then there are reasons to scrap it.
It was presumably introduced after data analysis from other places. |  |
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| Well done Welsh Govt on 19:44 - Aug 3 with 840 views | union_jack |
| Well done Welsh Govt on 19:16 - Aug 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It has barely affected mee at all. I welcome this change IF IT WORKS and hope they will continue to gather data for the long term trends. If the changes are minimal then there are reasons to scrap it.
It was presumably introduced after data analysis from other places. |
Just wait til you get proper roads and cars up your way. You’ll be up in arms then. 😂 | |
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