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An Australian professor of Data Analytics from Griffith University who predicted Trump’s first win, the Australian Federal Election(when all the polls said the opposite) and Brexit has called it - Trump will be re-elected for another 4 years. You heard it here first.
The man’s lack of self-awareness, humility and fairness is staggering.
And yet, he has secured more votes than he did in 2016 and the largest number in history for a Republican candidate.
As they say over there, ‘go figure’.
Just to be clear, I don't want Trump to win the election. But in terms of his lack of self-awareness and humility, that is not actually his fault. He has bee brainwashed and conditioned since the moment he was born to believe he is the best, that might is right, that money and power is everything and that anyone with an alternative view is dispensable. Those characteristics are what make him an excellent businessman and a disastrous President. He increased his vote because he put money in people's pockets and the weakness of his opponent - the latter being the same reason he was elected four years ago in the first place. His crassness is actually attractive to those that feel they can connect with him. To be honest, Johnson is not that far away from the American model, while in Brazil they have a replica of Trump. Meanwhile, in Ireland we have incoherent, incompetents running the country. Our Taoiseach is such a bad orator that he has to read important announcements; like lockdown, off an autocue. Our Tánaiste, is significantly better when making speeches, but was reduced to a mumbling, stuttering, incoherent, when trying to answer unscripted questions in the Dail during the week. The reality is that truly great Statesmen are a dying breed
It was said on one station yesterday that White House officials were sugesting that Trump stands again in 2024 to correct his loss by cheating & fraud!
I hadn't realised till last night that Detroit & Philadelphia were the worst places on the planet for election fraud & as enenies of democrarcy.
That centrism isn’t quite the draw to working class people as we think it is?
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Biden is about as centrist as you can get and he's gained more votes than anyone in US history, and will likely win the Presidency, so I'd say picking Biden over someone like Sanders, was the right thing to do in the circumstances. Do you seriously believe that Bernie Sanders would have performed as well in the suburbs as Biden or that significant numbers of Trump's working class followers would have voted for Sanders over Trump?
Having seen how many historically rock-solid Labour seats the Tories won in predominantly working class constituencies at the last election, can we all agree that Corbyn type manifestos/wish lists that voters view as unrealistic, aren't quite the draw to working class people that you think they are?
EDIT: If Biden wins, he will also have beaten an incumbent President, which doesn't usually happen, looks set to flip a number of states, looks to have secured 4m+ more votes than his opponent, and has done so despite an economy that was doing well before Covid-19, and where there's a lot of sympathy for Trump in terms of Covid-19 derailing the economy rather than any of his actions (whether that sympathy is deserved or not isn't really the issue, as it's all about perceptions). In my head, it's inconceivable that anyone could vote for Trump given who and what he is, but if you get all your 'news' from FOX, Right-wing radio hosts and like-minded Facebooks groups etc, then you're not going to share my views on Trump.
It was said on one station yesterday that White House officials were sugesting that Trump stands again in 2024 to correct his loss by cheating & fraud!
I hadn't realised till last night that Detroit & Philadelphia were the worst places on the planet for election fraud & as enenies of democrarcy.
One theory is that if he quickly announces he'll run in 2024, then any federal investigations concerning his or his family's actions whilst in office, can be framed by Trump and his followers as politically-motivated, and therefore deter the Dems from pursuing cases.
One theory is that if he quickly announces he'll run in 2024, then any federal investigations concerning his or his family's actions whilst in office, can be framed by Trump and his followers as politically-motivated, and therefore deter the Dems from pursuing cases.
Interesting.
Another theory is that by being so disruptive about going now he's hoping he'll get an amnesty for him and his family in return for eventually leaving quietly.
It was said on one station yesterday that White House officials were sugesting that Trump stands again in 2024 to correct his loss by cheating & fraud!
I hadn't realised till last night that Detroit & Philadelphia were the worst places on the planet for election fraud & as enenies of democrarcy.
Pennsylvania certainly pulls its weight, and Kwame Kilpatrick, formerly Mayor of Detroit, is a star performer, but your local incarceration facility is a diverse place.
Just to be clear, I don't want Trump to win the election. But in terms of his lack of self-awareness and humility, that is not actually his fault. He has bee brainwashed and conditioned since the moment he was born to believe he is the best, that might is right, that money and power is everything and that anyone with an alternative view is dispensable. Those characteristics are what make him an excellent businessman and a disastrous President. He increased his vote because he put money in people's pockets and the weakness of his opponent - the latter being the same reason he was elected four years ago in the first place. His crassness is actually attractive to those that feel they can connect with him. To be honest, Johnson is not that far away from the American model, while in Brazil they have a replica of Trump. Meanwhile, in Ireland we have incoherent, incompetents running the country. Our Taoiseach is such a bad orator that he has to read important announcements; like lockdown, off an autocue. Our Tánaiste, is significantly better when making speeches, but was reduced to a mumbling, stuttering, incoherent, when trying to answer unscripted questions in the Dail during the week. The reality is that truly great Statesmen are a dying breed
Trump is not an excellent businessman, he just likes to tell everyone he is. I could go on about his 6 bankruptcies and dodgy deals with foreign countries he shouldn't be dealing with but I don't have the energy. He's a fraud and a conman and a country that still believes it's the greatest in the world and the land of the free (despite all the evidence proving otherwise), fell for it. Every US citizen should be forced to watch "Where to invade next" to burst their bubble.
He's clearly not going to go without torching the place on the way out and whilst that's clearly a bad thing, I'm reminded of the story he used to tell about the serpent which ends with the words, "What did you expect, you knew I was a snake!".
Trump is not an excellent businessman, he just likes to tell everyone he is. I could go on about his 6 bankruptcies and dodgy deals with foreign countries he shouldn't be dealing with but I don't have the energy. He's a fraud and a conman and a country that still believes it's the greatest in the world and the land of the free (despite all the evidence proving otherwise), fell for it. Every US citizen should be forced to watch "Where to invade next" to burst their bubble.
He's clearly not going to go without torching the place on the way out and whilst that's clearly a bad thing, I'm reminded of the story he used to tell about the serpent which ends with the words, "What did you expect, you knew I was a snake!".
Not exactly skint as some would wish it seems, so much dodgy dealing probably hard to ever find out,
Trump is not an excellent businessman, he just likes to tell everyone he is. I could go on about his 6 bankruptcies and dodgy deals with foreign countries he shouldn't be dealing with but I don't have the energy. He's a fraud and a conman and a country that still believes it's the greatest in the world and the land of the free (despite all the evidence proving otherwise), fell for it. Every US citizen should be forced to watch "Where to invade next" to burst their bubble.
He's clearly not going to go without torching the place on the way out and whilst that's clearly a bad thing, I'm reminded of the story he used to tell about the serpent which ends with the words, "What did you expect, you knew I was a snake!".
A lot fell for that though. I remember someone saying to me when he won- 'well having a businessman in charge will be good for a change.' Its a seductive, simplistic and therefore attractive idea. Businessmen turned politicians have tended not to be good at politics but the desire for 'something different' appeals to the human psyche I think.
Trump is not an excellent businessman, he just likes to tell everyone he is. I could go on about his 6 bankruptcies and dodgy deals with foreign countries he shouldn't be dealing with but I don't have the energy. He's a fraud and a conman and a country that still believes it's the greatest in the world and the land of the free (despite all the evidence proving otherwise), fell for it. Every US citizen should be forced to watch "Where to invade next" to burst their bubble.
He's clearly not going to go without torching the place on the way out and whilst that's clearly a bad thing, I'm reminded of the story he used to tell about the serpent which ends with the words, "What did you expect, you knew I was a snake!".
Indeed. His success in business was founded on, and is limited to, the property portfolio he inherited. What he is good at is self-promotion and creating a narrative that simplistic, misleading, divisive but remains popular.
Fair play to him for that. He is the living proof that apparently it is possible to fool many people most of the time.
That’s honestly your take home from the last few years after Brexit, Corbyn, Trump etc?
If Sanders had run against Trump he would’ve been annihilated.
It would help if Labour or the Dems actually tried to occupy the centre as opposed to left or left of centre.
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Yeah it is.
‘If Sanders had run against Trump he would’ve been annihilated’
Can I asked what this is based on and what centrism actually is policy wise? What does it offer people?
Biden’s election pitch of ‘not being Trump’ doesn’t seem like a tangible benefit to working class people to me. I don’t see how it gets uninsured people into full and decent healthcare, reduces home repossession, or cleans poisonous water in Detroit.
That centrism isn’t quite the draw to working class people as we think it is?
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Thursday, 6 May 2021, date of next local elections in the UK, will be interesting to see if Starmer can put across to the electorate just how much he has rid the LP of Corbynsm.
Not a GE but maybe a litmus test for where the LP is heading, after Johnson's fiasco so far of dealing with things it shouldn't be too hard to win back some support from the 'red wall' districts, notably that when the latest lockdown kicked in, back to 80% furlough rate but northern cities only offered 67% a few weeks ago, nothing to do with Tory heartlands being kicked in the balls as well now by the virus.
Maybe centrist to you Bazz but if LP dosn't move away from Corbynites then the wilderness is where they will stay.
‘If Sanders had run against Trump he would’ve been annihilated’
Can I asked what this is based on and what centrism actually is policy wise? What does it offer people?
Biden’s election pitch of ‘not being Trump’ doesn’t seem like a tangible benefit to working class people to me. I don’t see how it gets uninsured people into full and decent healthcare, reduces home repossession, or cleans poisonous water in Detroit.
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It’s based on watching the disastrous Corbyn experiment over here and actually listening to what Brexit and Trump voters have to say.
Nearly 70m people voted for Trump and many of them like his policies on tax etc. They can’t all be labelled racists.
I’m amazed that people still think the answer to Trump and Brexit is to move further to the left.
‘If Sanders had run against Trump he would’ve been annihilated’
Can I asked what this is based on and what centrism actually is policy wise? What does it offer people?
Biden’s election pitch of ‘not being Trump’ doesn’t seem like a tangible benefit to working class people to me. I don’t see how it gets uninsured people into full and decent healthcare, reduces home repossession, or cleans poisonous water in Detroit.
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I think that Biden's policies on health and welfare will be right-wing. His record on crime and punishment is awful. His record on violence overseas shameful.
It shows just how bad Trump is that Biden is welcomed as his replacement.
But after three days and nights of watching CNN and MSNBC I can't see for the life of me how Sanders would have won. The U.S. seems to want right-wing policies and right-wing politicians and wants to believe that they're actually centrist.
Edit - That's not to say that Sanders should move to the centre or even that the British Labour Party should. You stick to your principles and you get better at convincing people that you are right. Any election won by selling your principles is worthless.
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"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Thursday, 6 May 2021, date of next local elections in the UK, will be interesting to see if Starmer can put across to the electorate just how much he has rid the LP of Corbynsm.
Not a GE but maybe a litmus test for where the LP is heading, after Johnson's fiasco so far of dealing with things it shouldn't be too hard to win back some support from the 'red wall' districts, notably that when the latest lockdown kicked in, back to 80% furlough rate but northern cities only offered 67% a few weeks ago, nothing to do with Tory heartlands being kicked in the balls as well now by the virus.
Maybe centrist to you Bazz but if LP dosn't move away from Corbynites then the wilderness is where they will stay.
I think Starmer will do well, but like Biden just for the virtue of not being the incumbent buffoon. I don’t think the Red wall or Scotland will be back though.
Labour have moved away from Corbynism. It’s dead. Literally 100 -200k Corbyn joiners have left the party in the last 7 months.
Not being Corbyn can only be milked for so long before people start to ask ‘well what are Labour for?’ so far it’s been for supporting the Tories on Covid to the detriment of 60k deaths, ignoring the NEU, and supporting bills that allows UK military personal and security services to commit crimes in the name of the state and be immune from prosecution.
It’s based on watching the disastrous Corbyn experiment over here and actually listening to what Brexit and Trump voters have to say.
Nearly 70m people voted for Trump and many of them like his policies on tax etc. They can’t all be labelled racists.
I’m amazed that people still think the answer to Trump and Brexit is to move further to the left.
That's why I thought Biden wasn't a bad choice. He's not that far left so people who identify as Republican and not Trump supporters could temporarily switch sides to rid them of their parasite. Hard to say what would have happened with Sanders or Warren, would they have got even more of the young/left vote than turned out to oust Trump? We'll never know.
I think that Biden's policies on health and welfare will be right-wing. His record on crime and punishment is awful. His record on violence overseas shameful.
It shows just how bad Trump is that Biden is welcomed as his replacement.
But after three days and nights of watching CNN and MSNBC I can't see for the life of me how Sanders would have won. The U.S. seems to want right-wing policies and right-wing politicians and wants to believe that they're actually centrist.
Edit - That's not to say that Sanders should move to the centre or even that the British Labour Party should. You stick to your principles and you get better at convincing people that you are right. Any election won by selling your principles is worthless.
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Sanders policies were hugely popular, but the perception of a socialist bogeyman might have brought him down. Even Biden was caste this way and it killed the Cuban / Venezuelan Golden exile vote in Florida.
Western politics all about perception over substance really and it’s a real shame.
Sanders policies were hugely popular, but the perception of a socialist bogeyman might have brought him down. Even Biden was caste this way and it killed the Cuban / Venezuelan Golden exile vote in Florida.
Western politics all about perception over substance really and it’s a real shame.
I agree.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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