| SKY 22:35 - Sep 18 with 54692 views | smuttsontour |
F*ck SKY
F*ck the presenter who tried to run a negative story on us for views.
F*ck anyone/anything that continually denies free speech.
Oh and f*ck sky again.
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| SKY on 09:20 - Sep 19 with 2789 views | peejaybee |
| SKY on 23:53 - Sep 18 by ted_hendrix |
We should make an official public club announcement and request an apology from Sky. |
Sorry Ted but the Murdochs do not do apologies. |  |
| If at first you dont succeed, pack up and f**k off home. |
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| SKY on 09:39 - Sep 19 with 2723 views | rsonist |
| SKY on 22:41 - Sep 18 by smuttsontour |
looking for somebody to organise a petition for this presenter to lose her job. |
#freespeech |  | | |
| SKY on 10:05 - Sep 19 with 2648 views | peejaybee |
And he has no influence at Sky at all.????????????????????????? | |
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| SKY on 10:18 - Sep 19 with 2615 views | Stanisgod |
| SKY on 23:40 - Sep 18 by BrianMcCarthy |
Sometimes it's okay to say "I don't know". And I don't know.
If another team decided not to, I would be curious as to whay. So I'm curious as to why we haven't. But with our excellent track record I presume that there is a reason for it and will wait to hear more and to learn more. |
How long do you do it for then, forever ? |  |
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| SKY on 10:24 - Sep 19 with 2567 views | qprxtc |
At some point or other, taking a knee was going to stop. Sky hadn’t decided to tell us when though. The reason behind this situation has been lost to a media finger pointing narrative. Platitudes don’t change anything.
A non story if ever there was one, after a very entertaining ( but typical QPR) game. |  | | |
| SKY on 10:28 - Sep 19 with 2579 views | nix |
| SKY on 07:23 - Sep 19 by DejR_vu |
If McAnuff has actually said we’re a racist club we should go after him for libel. You can’t go around saying that sort of thing unchecked these days. We must do more for racial equality than any other club. Meanwhile, CaptainB@llendW@nker takes the knee at a televised charity match. Says it all about taking the knee. Actions speak louder than words.
McAnuff sounds like just another thick ignorant footballer if he’s even suggested we’re racist.
Make a big statement, go after the dick and make an example of him. |
He didn't say we were racist but by saying he was disappointed by us not taking the knee, it was implying that we were not wholeheartedly behind equality which is so far from the actual truth. There was no balance about what we have actually done rather than just the gestures made.
I must have missed all of the post-match bit as I went out, so missed the bit about all the stuff we have done. But really they should have said that in the first place. It's like those apologies you get on page 32 of the newspaper. [Post edited 19 Sep 2020 10:36]
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| SKY on 10:31 - Sep 19 with 2560 views | QPR_John |
| SKY on 23:28 - Sep 18 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Mark Robins said they wanted to, but QPR didn't so they didn't. |
So basically it was so important to Coventry that they were not prepared to take the knee without support. What kind of excuse is that. | | | |
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| SKY (n/t) on 10:37 - Sep 19 with 2542 views | The_Beast1976 |
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| SKY on 10:38 - Sep 19 with 2538 views | rsonist |
This shouldn't have come as much surprise given the tone of Les and Chris' press work in recent months. (I'm sure MAGA Geoff doesn't mind either.)
I respect the decision - and it would have been silly make any announcement of it beforehand - but will respect it infinitely more if we have anticipated the obvious inevitability that it will be noticed and seized upon, and have had a thorough statement outlining our position long prepared. Leaving it out there open to interpretation is naive, fundamentally counter-productive, and frankly stupid. | | | |
| SKY on 10:39 - Sep 19 with 2537 views | The_Beast1976 |
| SKY on 23:34 - Sep 18 by Northernr |
Qpr have taken positive action rather than hollow, PR-driven gestures. We have more black coaches than the rest of the EFL put together. We have a black DOF, black academy director, we’ve given opportunities to black teenagers booted out of other academies. We have a diverse fan base. We have a best in class community department in a diverse part of London. We were front and centre of doing useful stuff for Grenfell while white powerful people were wiping their fcking lap tops.
Sorry if we don’t think your easily packaged and televised gesture should go on indefinitely, but when you’ve done as much as we have then you can come for us.
Fcking disgusting.
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Hear hear.
Fcuk 'taking the knee' and fcuk the neo-marxist BLM (an organisation which the virtue signalling media have put on a pedestal it simply doesn't deserve.
Positive actions prove louder than words and symbols (although obviously not to Sky and the other full of sh1t MSM), and our club has taken positive action by the bucket load. | | | |
| SKY on 10:43 - Sep 19 with 2519 views | francisbowles |
McAnuff said that he thinks it should continue and it is important and of course he is perfectly entitled to say so when asked.
Many others tend to think it has made it's point and carrying it on makes it a meaningless gesture.
I thought that the presenters were articulate spoke reasonably about it.
However, the problem for me is why were they told to discuss it? It was a private decision reached by the club. They (SKY) were digging for a 'dirty' story. They could have approached the club privately and asked. Instead they debated it before and after the match, the match commentator made a point about it and they questioned both managers.
I paid a tenner to NOW tv to watch a football match, that I couldn't watch any other way and I got treated to a sideshow, oh! and btw a commentator who couldn't even tell me about who had he ball at any given time, especially in the opening period of the game. | | | |
| SKY on 10:49 - Sep 19 with 2494 views | rsonist |
This special 2020 Red Scare Away Shirt unveiling couldn't have gone any better. | | | |
| SKY on 11:50 - Sep 19 with 2413 views | Dorse |
I think Sky have misjudged this one. It is galling that, however inaccurate the statement, they hold the whip hand in any discussion as they control the means by which any message is disseminated.
Even if the club goes all-out to put the facts into the public domain, it will always come over as bleating about being caught ('The lady doth protest too much, methinks') rather than a rejection of a patently false narrative.
Remember, as far as the other 91 clubs are concerned, we're the cheating bastards who played 'Ineligible Ale' to get into the Prem before taking the FFP regulations into the bog to use after an all-you-can-eat curry, licorice and Guiness marathon. The narrative will support their version of events to the wider world rather than give an accurate rendering of the club's character.
It is the standard TalkSpurt approach: say something to get everyone's attention by implying the negative but actually stepping back from outright libel and encourging the listeners to make the running whilst saying 'Well, this certainly seems to have angered you...'
For example, asking whether QPR chose to take the knee allows them to headline: 'QPR Refuse To Support Equality Initiative' (which is false) when the content of the story shows that neither side took the knee and QPR's opinion is only dropped in to act as an out of context, lukewarm, non-apology after setting the parameters characterisng us as the villain.
As has been said previously, fcuk SKY, the shower of farmyard aniligualists. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| SKY on 11:54 - Sep 19 with 2401 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| SKY on 10:31 - Sep 19 by QPR_John |
So basically it was so important to Coventry that they were not prepared to take the knee without support. What kind of excuse is that. |
I don’t know, you’ll have to speak to Mark Robins. |  | | |
| SKY on 12:31 - Sep 19 with 2301 views | robith |
| SKY on 22:48 - Sep 18 by CamberleyR |
@carolinebarker if anybody wants to fill their boots on Twitter. |
This is gutter behaviour, you should be ashamed of yourself |  | | |
| SKY on 12:32 - Sep 19 with 2299 views | francisbowles |
| SKY on 10:31 - Sep 19 by QPR_John |
So basically it was so important to Coventry that they were not prepared to take the knee without support. What kind of excuse is that. |
I think the referee decides after consulting both teams, none or both. | | | |
| SKY on 12:40 - Sep 19 with 2267 views | stowmarketrange |
Hopefully Sky will boycott us for live games now.Its a shame we as a club can’t boycott them too. |  | | |
| SKY on 12:56 - Sep 19 with 2231 views | NW10Hoop |
It will be interesting to see how QPR respond if at all. I have noticed we haven’t taken the knee for a while. I wouldn’t want this to embolden those that thought that it should never have happened in the first place
Our club has absolutely nothing to prove. They have constantly walked the walk.
I am proud of what our club stands for, I’m proud and grateful to have Les Ferdinand and Chris Ramsey at our club. They’re part of the club’s DNA and even when they do eventually move on their presence will be felt. If they have decided not to do it then fair play. Sky trying to call us out seems pretty F-ing dumb to me |  | | |
| SKY on 13:09 - Sep 19 with 2192 views | QPR_John |
| SKY on 11:54 - Sep 19 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I don’t know, you’ll have to speak to Mark Robins. |
There's me thinking you might know the answer | | | |
| SKY on 13:25 - Sep 19 with 2142 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| SKY on 12:56 - Sep 19 by NW10Hoop |
It will be interesting to see how QPR respond if at all. I have noticed we haven’t taken the knee for a while. I wouldn’t want this to embolden those that thought that it should never have happened in the first place
Our club has absolutely nothing to prove. They have constantly walked the walk.
I am proud of what our club stands for, I’m proud and grateful to have Les Ferdinand and Chris Ramsey at our club. They’re part of the club’s DNA and even when they do eventually move on their presence will be felt. If they have decided not to do it then fair play. Sky trying to call us out seems pretty F-ing dumb to me |
Good post. Very well put. |  |
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| SKY on 14:50 - Sep 19 with 2013 views | NW5Hoop |
Several points that interrelate …
1/ Football has a terrible problem with trying to show it is caring. Because it's not. It's a vast, rapacious, unpleasant, greedy industry. So it overcompensates with countless minutes of silence or applause, with plastering commemorative badges on shirts and so on. The knee-taking, I tend to think, is an extension of that. Same as the meaningless commemoration of Nelson Mandela: great man, minimal contribution to lower division football.
2/ I accept QPR do more than most around diversity. Whereas Sky has no BAME executives, so far as I can tell, very few BAME presenters (as opposed to pundits). And SkySports employs actual racist John Terry as an occasional pundit, and Sky News gives airtime to racist tosspots like Brendan O'Neill. So, you know, who's really the bad guy here?
3/ But for QPR to go into a televised game having decided not to take a knee, but with no explanation, is stupidly bad PR. They should have either taken the knee, or had a principled explanation. Not some garbled post match stuff.
4/ The worst thing is that this has given ammunition to all the actual racists, who are all over Twitter congratulating QPR for standing up to the evil militias of wokedom.
QPR have ended up coming out badly from this - and it was a legitimate story. And it's their own fault. [Post edited 19 Sep 2020 14:55]
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| SKY on 14:54 - Sep 19 with 1993 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| SKY on 14:50 - Sep 19 by NW5Hoop |
Several points that interrelate …
1/ Football has a terrible problem with trying to show it is caring. Because it's not. It's a vast, rapacious, unpleasant, greedy industry. So it overcompensates with countless minutes of silence or applause, with plastering commemorative badges on shirts and so on. The knee-taking, I tend to think, is an extension of that. Same as the meaningless commemoration of Nelson Mandela: great man, minimal contribution to lower division football.
2/ I accept QPR do more than most around diversity. Whereas Sky has no BAME executives, so far as I can tell, very few BAME presenters (as opposed to pundits). And SkySports employs actual racist John Terry as an occasional pundit, and Sky News gives airtime to racist tosspots like Brendan O'Neill. So, you know, who's really the bad guy here?
3/ But for QPR to go into a televised game having decided not to take a knee, but with no explanation, is stupidly bad PR. They should have either taken the knee, or had a principled explanation. Not some garbled post match stuff.
4/ The worst thing is that this has given ammunition to all the actual racists, who are all over Twitter congratulating QPR for standing up to the evil militias of wokedom.
QPR have ended up coming out badly from this - and it was a legitimate story. And it's their own fault. [Post edited 19 Sep 2020 14:55]
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I wish I could articulate my thoughts like this. Great rational and thoughtful post. | | | |
| SKY on 15:00 - Sep 19 with 1963 views | Northernr |
| SKY on 14:50 - Sep 19 by NW5Hoop |
Several points that interrelate …
1/ Football has a terrible problem with trying to show it is caring. Because it's not. It's a vast, rapacious, unpleasant, greedy industry. So it overcompensates with countless minutes of silence or applause, with plastering commemorative badges on shirts and so on. The knee-taking, I tend to think, is an extension of that. Same as the meaningless commemoration of Nelson Mandela: great man, minimal contribution to lower division football.
2/ I accept QPR do more than most around diversity. Whereas Sky has no BAME executives, so far as I can tell, very few BAME presenters (as opposed to pundits). And SkySports employs actual racist John Terry as an occasional pundit, and Sky News gives airtime to racist tosspots like Brendan O'Neill. So, you know, who's really the bad guy here?
3/ But for QPR to go into a televised game having decided not to take a knee, but with no explanation, is stupidly bad PR. They should have either taken the knee, or had a principled explanation. Not some garbled post match stuff.
4/ The worst thing is that this has given ammunition to all the actual racists, who are all over Twitter congratulating QPR for standing up to the evil militias of wokedom.
QPR have ended up coming out badly from this - and it was a legitimate story. And it's their own fault. [Post edited 19 Sep 2020 14:55]
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Good post. |  | | |
| SKY on 15:01 - Sep 19 with 1959 views | rsonist |
| SKY on 14:50 - Sep 19 by NW5Hoop |
Several points that interrelate …
1/ Football has a terrible problem with trying to show it is caring. Because it's not. It's a vast, rapacious, unpleasant, greedy industry. So it overcompensates with countless minutes of silence or applause, with plastering commemorative badges on shirts and so on. The knee-taking, I tend to think, is an extension of that. Same as the meaningless commemoration of Nelson Mandela: great man, minimal contribution to lower division football.
2/ I accept QPR do more than most around diversity. Whereas Sky has no BAME executives, so far as I can tell, very few BAME presenters (as opposed to pundits). And SkySports employs actual racist John Terry as an occasional pundit, and Sky News gives airtime to racist tosspots like Brendan O'Neill. So, you know, who's really the bad guy here?
3/ But for QPR to go into a televised game having decided not to take a knee, but with no explanation, is stupidly bad PR. They should have either taken the knee, or had a principled explanation. Not some garbled post match stuff.
4/ The worst thing is that this has given ammunition to all the actual racists, who are all over Twitter congratulating QPR for standing up to the evil militias of wokedom.
QPR have ended up coming out badly from this - and it was a legitimate story. And it's their own fault. [Post edited 19 Sep 2020 14:55]
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If we're making the point I hope we intended to make then I kind of think it makes more sense to let Sky et al give themselves enough rope then respond. But maybe that's wishful 5D chess and MW's mealy mouthed gibberish about requiring "guidance from the authorities" is all we're going to get. | | | |
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