| radio bolton. 19:27 - Feb 11 with 119590 views | since58 |
wtf is going on. last time I looked they were bottom of lge 1 yet still tonight they are
the main game lge 2 looms yet STILL they are the main game fookin stinks. |  | | |  |
| radio bolton. on 14:26 - Apr 18 with 4928 views | rochdaleriddler |
They are featuring the Dale promotion game from 10 years ago at some point before 6.00
Edit. It’s on for an hour at 3 [Post edited 18 Apr 2020 14:49]
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| radio bolton. on 14:39 - Apr 18 with 4899 views | 442Dale |
Expect Wagg to make it all about his own memories of the day.
If any Dale fan is on, they can ask them how we managed to get the airtime that day ahead of Bolton’s game at Stoke. |  |
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| radio bolton. on 15:49 - Apr 18 with 4832 views | DaleiLama |
| radio bolton. on 21:46 - Feb 24 by DaleiLama |
Don't hold your breath 49th.
I got the standard copy paste others have got and you will too no doubt. Perhaps we should send them to quest?
"Thank you for contacting us about BBC Radio Manchester.
We note your comments about the coverage of Bolton football club. We know that not everyone will agree with our choices on which stories to cover, or the order in which they appear.
Editorial decisions are more of a judgement call, than an exact science — so you’ll even find variety from one BBC programme to the next. Time constraints, the expected audience profile and the style of each bulletin or current affairs programme can all play a part.
Our editors make these complex decisions, based on the editorial merit of all the stories at hand. We accept that not everyone will agree with each decision — various factors are at play and there’s often debate in the production room too.
The BBC never takes a position on anything that we cover. It is important to recognise that a fundamental part of the role of our correspondents/sports journalists is to offer analysis, using their experience and knowledge, but this is not indicative of bias.
We would like to thank you for your feedback which is incredibly valuable to us and is formally logged and reported daily to all staff across the BBC, helping us gain a snapshot of audience opinion and evolving tastes on a range of issues that overall helps us to shape future decisions and directions in our programme-making.
Once more, thank you for taking the time to contact us.
Kind regards,
Lucy Ryan
BBC Complaints Team "
I felt slightly better after firing this off.
"Dear Lucy,
Thanks for your reply. Tonight is the 7th consecutive game covering Bolton live. Regrettably, I am not stupid, and the drivel which you have copied and pasted above is an insult to anyone with even the smallest iota of intelligence. You really can reply to complaints in any way you want. At a time when the BBC needs as many friends as it can get though, due to the hugely competitive media offering available currently, I would have thought it might not be in your best interests to treat listeners like idiots. These listeners are the ones who are switching off in droves. I hope everyone at the BBC realises what this means? I also hope this is read out in your next production meeting. Ignore the people paying your wages at your peril.
I know this will fall on either deaf ears or the ears of those who don't care.
Good luck with the move from media city to Bolton.
A disillusioned Dale fan who no longer listens to the BBC and will not be renewing his license". [Post edited 24 Feb 2020 21:46]
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Meanwhile - 8 weeks later, jyst checked and still no reply. I think she's socially distancing from her keyboard? |  |
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| radio bolton. on 16:09 - Apr 22 with 4568 views | Sandyman |
Well look what has arrived in the e mail:
"We are contacting you to apologise that we’ve not been able to reply to your complaint within the time period we aim for. Although we manage this for most complaints, we regret it’s not been possible so far because of the delays resulting from having far fewer staff at present because of the consequences of the coronavirus epidemic.
If you wish to refer this delay and the substance of your complaint to the BBC’s regulator Ofcom, you can do so online at https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/how-to-report-a-complaint/bbc-tv or by post to: Ofcom, Riverside House, 2a Southwark Bridge Road, London SE1 9HA. Please include for Ofcom your latest correspondence from and to the BBC and any BBC case reference numbers which you have been given.
Full details of the BBC’s complaints process can be found by visiting https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/how-we-handle-your-complaint, and full details of Ofcom’s complaints process are available at https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/information-for-industry/guidanc
In the meantime we appreciate your patience and will respond as soon as we can.
Kind regards
BBC Complaints Team
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints " |  | | |
| radio bolton. on 16:23 - Jun 18 with 4316 views | Sandyman |
2 months later, this arrives...
"Thank you for contacting us Our apologies for the delay in replying. Like other organisations we have fewer staff able to work normally at the moment, but we’re of course sorry you’ve had to wait so long for a response.
We appreciate that you were dissatisfied with our previous response and felt strongly enough to write to us again.
As you know we have a wealth of football in this patch — eight clubs in total. We have covered them all, sending reporters to all games on a Saturday and at other times. It’s part of what we do, local interviews, news and views. We have commentary deals with seven of them.
We choose our commentary games carefully, considering editorial decisions, fan base, local derbies, relegation battles and promotion chases. Reports on the other games are given frequently in all commentary games.
All clubs are featured across the season, but inevitably some more than others.
We do regret that you were unhappy and we have read and noted your points, but don’t consider they suggest evidence of a possible breach of standards. Opinions do vary widely about the BBC and its output, but this does not necessarily imply there has been a breach of standards or of the BBC’s public service obligations. For this reason we regret we don’t have more to add, and so will not respond further or address more questions or points.
If you are dissatisfied with this decision you may ask the BBC’s Executive Complaints Unit(ECU) to review it. Details of the BBC complaints process are available at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/handle-complaint/ where you can read the BBC’s full complaints framework.
You should contact the ECU within 20 working days of receiving this reply. You will need to explain why you believe there may have been a have been a potential breach of standards or other significant issue for it to investigate.
If you wish to contact the ECU, we have provided a unique url link for you in this email. This will open up further information about how to submit your complaint. The link will then not work after you have submitted your complaint. You will be asked for the case reference number we have provided in this reply.
This is your link to contact the ECU if you wish:
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Thank you again for contacting us.
Kind regards
BBC Complaints Team" | | | |
| radio bolton. on 16:51 - Jun 18 with 4212 views | SuddenLad |
| radio bolton. on 16:23 - Jun 18 by Sandyman |
2 months later, this arrives...
"Thank you for contacting us Our apologies for the delay in replying. Like other organisations we have fewer staff able to work normally at the moment, but we’re of course sorry you’ve had to wait so long for a response.
We appreciate that you were dissatisfied with our previous response and felt strongly enough to write to us again.
As you know we have a wealth of football in this patch — eight clubs in total. We have covered them all, sending reporters to all games on a Saturday and at other times. It’s part of what we do, local interviews, news and views. We have commentary deals with seven of them.
We choose our commentary games carefully, considering editorial decisions, fan base, local derbies, relegation battles and promotion chases. Reports on the other games are given frequently in all commentary games.
All clubs are featured across the season, but inevitably some more than others.
We do regret that you were unhappy and we have read and noted your points, but don’t consider they suggest evidence of a possible breach of standards. Opinions do vary widely about the BBC and its output, but this does not necessarily imply there has been a breach of standards or of the BBC’s public service obligations. For this reason we regret we don’t have more to add, and so will not respond further or address more questions or points.
If you are dissatisfied with this decision you may ask the BBC’s Executive Complaints Unit(ECU) to review it. Details of the BBC complaints process are available at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/handle-complaint/ where you can read the BBC’s full complaints framework.
You should contact the ECU within 20 working days of receiving this reply. You will need to explain why you believe there may have been a have been a potential breach of standards or other significant issue for it to investigate.
If you wish to contact the ECU, we have provided a unique url link for you in this email. This will open up further information about how to submit your complaint. The link will then not work after you have submitted your complaint. You will be asked for the case reference number we have provided in this reply.
This is your link to contact the ECU if you wish:
Click Here
Thank you again for contacting us.
Kind regards
BBC Complaints Team" |
More meaningless drivel. They are a complete shambles. Nothing will change, even now that BWFC are in League Two.
BBC Radio Manchester has been the 'Wanderers Weekly' for too long. They may well have agreements with other clubs, but Bolton clearly has priority, and the facts speak for themselves. |  |
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| radio bolton. on 16:54 - Jun 18 with 4204 views | fitzochris |
Quite simply, the BBC need to acknowledge whether or not they have a financial/commercial agreement in place with Bolton that results in Bolton receiving a greater degree of coverage than other local teams (by accident or design).
If the answer to this is yes, then it is very natural and correct that licence-fee payers who support other clubs in the region of coverage have a grievance at the disparity.
I had undertaken an FOI to this effect with the BBC and had not received a satisfactory response. Then COVID happened and I dropped it. If, when football returns, the disparity continues, I will pick this up again. |  |
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| radio bolton. on 16:57 - Jun 18 with 4193 views | TVOS1907 |
| radio bolton. on 16:23 - Jun 18 by Sandyman |
2 months later, this arrives...
"Thank you for contacting us Our apologies for the delay in replying. Like other organisations we have fewer staff able to work normally at the moment, but we’re of course sorry you’ve had to wait so long for a response.
We appreciate that you were dissatisfied with our previous response and felt strongly enough to write to us again.
As you know we have a wealth of football in this patch — eight clubs in total. We have covered them all, sending reporters to all games on a Saturday and at other times. It’s part of what we do, local interviews, news and views. We have commentary deals with seven of them.
We choose our commentary games carefully, considering editorial decisions, fan base, local derbies, relegation battles and promotion chases. Reports on the other games are given frequently in all commentary games.
All clubs are featured across the season, but inevitably some more than others.
We do regret that you were unhappy and we have read and noted your points, but don’t consider they suggest evidence of a possible breach of standards. Opinions do vary widely about the BBC and its output, but this does not necessarily imply there has been a breach of standards or of the BBC’s public service obligations. For this reason we regret we don’t have more to add, and so will not respond further or address more questions or points.
If you are dissatisfied with this decision you may ask the BBC’s Executive Complaints Unit(ECU) to review it. Details of the BBC complaints process are available at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/handle-complaint/ where you can read the BBC’s full complaints framework.
You should contact the ECU within 20 working days of receiving this reply. You will need to explain why you believe there may have been a have been a potential breach of standards or other significant issue for it to investigate.
If you wish to contact the ECU, we have provided a unique url link for you in this email. This will open up further information about how to submit your complaint. The link will then not work after you have submitted your complaint. You will be asked for the case reference number we have provided in this reply.
This is your link to contact the ECU if you wish:
Click Here
Thank you again for contacting us.
Kind regards
BBC Complaints Team" |
"We choose our commentary games carefully"
That in itself renders the rest of it meaningless. |  |
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| radio bolton. (n/t) on 18:20 - Jun 18 with 4070 views | finberty |
| radio bolton. on 16:57 - Jun 18 by TVOS1907 |
"We choose our commentary games carefully"
That in itself renders the rest of it meaningless. |
Carefully = where are Bolton playing next, and how do we get Dearden there? [Post edited 18 Jun 2020 18:22]
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| radio bolton. on 19:07 - Jun 18 with 3987 views | DaleiLama |
| radio bolton. on 16:57 - Jun 18 by TVOS1907 |
"We choose our commentary games carefully"
That in itself renders the rest of it meaningless. |
I do believe it's carefully chosen. 500 names in a hat. 499 are Bolton and 1 is a carefully chosen other. | |
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| radio bolton. on 15:06 - Jun 19 with 3742 views | DaleiLama |
| radio bolton. on 16:23 - Jun 18 by Sandyman |
2 months later, this arrives...
"Thank you for contacting us Our apologies for the delay in replying. Like other organisations we have fewer staff able to work normally at the moment, but we’re of course sorry you’ve had to wait so long for a response.
We appreciate that you were dissatisfied with our previous response and felt strongly enough to write to us again.
As you know we have a wealth of football in this patch — eight clubs in total. We have covered them all, sending reporters to all games on a Saturday and at other times. It’s part of what we do, local interviews, news and views. We have commentary deals with seven of them.
We choose our commentary games carefully, considering editorial decisions, fan base, local derbies, relegation battles and promotion chases. Reports on the other games are given frequently in all commentary games.
All clubs are featured across the season, but inevitably some more than others.
We do regret that you were unhappy and we have read and noted your points, but don’t consider they suggest evidence of a possible breach of standards. Opinions do vary widely about the BBC and its output, but this does not necessarily imply there has been a breach of standards or of the BBC’s public service obligations. For this reason we regret we don’t have more to add, and so will not respond further or address more questions or points.
If you are dissatisfied with this decision you may ask the BBC’s Executive Complaints Unit(ECU) to review it. Details of the BBC complaints process are available at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/handle-complaint/ where you can read the BBC’s full complaints framework.
You should contact the ECU within 20 working days of receiving this reply. You will need to explain why you believe there may have been a have been a potential breach of standards or other significant issue for it to investigate.
If you wish to contact the ECU, we have provided a unique url link for you in this email. This will open up further information about how to submit your complaint. The link will then not work after you have submitted your complaint. You will be asked for the case reference number we have provided in this reply.
This is your link to contact the ECU if you wish:
Click Here
Thank you again for contacting us.
Kind regards
BBC Complaints Team" |
Does this look familiar Sandyman? Just found this in an email account I seldom use, to reduce spam in my main account. Tough job copy/pasting all day? Almost makes it look like they have a template to copy from as they get so many similar complaints?
"Thank you for getting in touch again with your complaint.
We're sorry you had to come back to us and we appreciate why. We always aim to address the specific points raised by our audience and regret any cases where we’ve failed to do this.
Your previous reply didn’t tackle the exact issue you raised and we’d like to offer you a new response here.
The following should now be considered your first reply.
We have a wealth of football in this patch. We do cover them all, sending reporters to all games on a Saturday and at other times. It’s part of what we do, local interviews, news and views. We have commentary deals with seven of them.
We choose our commentary games carefully, considering editorial decisions, fan base, local derbies, relegation battles and promotion chases. Reports on the other games are given frequently in all commentary games.
All clubs are featured across the season, but inevitably some more than others.
We do regret that you were unhappy, and we very much appreciate your feedback here. | |
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| radio bolton. on 13:54 - Jul 2 with 3371 views | rkershaw |
Perhaps Bolton- based Smith Metals could do a BBC Bolton FM radio jingle during the ad breaks informing the Bolton Whinge-r-us listeners of their continued loyalty to their superior neighbours?? ;) | | | |
| radio bolton. on 12:44 - Aug 6 with 2879 views | 100notout |
Just heard that Jimmy Wagg has hung up his microphone after 30 odd years and retired. With Jack "Bolton" Dearden not getting any younger (68) and having health issues, maybe we'll see a change in stance over the next season?
Here's hoping. | |
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| radio bolton. on 12:46 - Aug 6 with 2859 views | kel |
| radio bolton. on 12:44 - Aug 6 by 100notout |
Just heard that Jimmy Wagg has hung up his microphone after 30 odd years and retired. With Jack "Bolton" Dearden not getting any younger (68) and having health issues, maybe we'll see a change in stance over the next season?
Here's hoping. |
Aye, saw something on Twitter the other day where our tannoy boy thanked him on behalf of the staff, club, fans of ROCHDALE FOOTBALL CLUB.
Didn’t realise a part time record player spoke for us all. [Post edited 6 Aug 2020 12:47]
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| radio bolton. on 12:47 - Aug 6 with 2857 views | judd |
| radio bolton. on 12:44 - Aug 6 by 100notout |
Just heard that Jimmy Wagg has hung up his microphone after 30 odd years and retired. With Jack "Bolton" Dearden not getting any younger (68) and having health issues, maybe we'll see a change in stance over the next season?
Here's hoping. |
Alan Gowling and John McGinlay are in the offing. |  |
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| radio bolton. on 12:53 - Aug 6 with 2831 views | SuddenLad |
To be fair, JImmy Wagg has been a humorous and popular radio presenter on more than one local BBC radio programme for 30 years. He has been a great servant to the sporting public of Manchester and surrounding areas and has actively promoted non-league football whenever he can. He has never made a secret of the fact he's a dyed-in-the-wool City fan and has always said positive things about our club.
The policies and broadcasting contracts of the BBC are what dictate his restrictions and limitations whilst broadcasting, so maybe he's had enough of it as well?
He also has an autistic son to look after and on a personal level, I wish him well and thank him for the laughs and his positive contributions towards Dale over the years. | |
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| radio bolton. on 12:59 - Aug 6 with 2792 views | 100notout |
| radio bolton. on 12:47 - Aug 6 by judd |
Alan Gowling and John McGinlay are in the offing. |
"Super (size) John McGinlay" needs to cut down on the pies or he'll be having health issues too | |
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| radio bolton. on 13:01 - Aug 6 with 2787 views | judd |
| radio bolton. on 12:59 - Aug 6 by 100notout |
"Super (size) John McGinlay" needs to cut down on the pies or he'll be having health issues too |
If not studio access... | |
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| radio bolton. on 13:12 - Aug 6 with 2750 views | D_Alien |
| radio bolton. on 12:47 - Aug 6 by judd |
Alan Gowling and John McGinlay are in the offing. |
What, in public? |  |
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| radio bolton. on 15:34 - Aug 6 with 2651 views | robbowood |
| radio bolton. on 12:53 - Aug 6 by SuddenLad |
To be fair, JImmy Wagg has been a humorous and popular radio presenter on more than one local BBC radio programme for 30 years. He has been a great servant to the sporting public of Manchester and surrounding areas and has actively promoted non-league football whenever he can. He has never made a secret of the fact he's a dyed-in-the-wool City fan and has always said positive things about our club.
The policies and broadcasting contracts of the BBC are what dictate his restrictions and limitations whilst broadcasting, so maybe he's had enough of it as well?
He also has an autistic son to look after and on a personal level, I wish him well and thank him for the laughs and his positive contributions towards Dale over the years. |
100% agree
He never missed a Saturday sports programme on Radio Manchester (GMR) in 31 years (1989 to last Saturday) - something we'll never see the like of again
I spoke to him on more than one occasion (usually next to the radio van outside the ground) and he was always happy to discuss football and the Dale especially. A genuinely good bloke who gave us and the other local clubs outside the Premiership great publicity
His final Saturday programme - Boston vs Altrincham match commentary - from around 3 hours 23 minutes well worth listening to
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08lxw3w | | | |
| radio bolton. on 17:25 - Aug 6 with 2544 views | diver |
| radio bolton. on 12:44 - Aug 6 by 100notout |
Just heard that Jimmy Wagg has hung up his microphone after 30 odd years and retired. With Jack "Bolton" Dearden not getting any younger (68) and having health issues, maybe we'll see a change in stance over the next season?
Here's hoping. |
Enjoyed listening to Jimmy Wagg.Hope Fred Eyre is staying on.Cannot listen to “talking balls”I must be getting too old for this idiotic presentation of programme. | | | |
| radio bolton. on 17:27 - Aug 6 with 2538 views | TVOS1907 |
| radio bolton. on 17:25 - Aug 6 by diver |
Enjoyed listening to Jimmy Wagg.Hope Fred Eyre is staying on.Cannot listen to “talking balls”I must be getting too old for this idiotic presentation of programme. |
You're joking about Eyre, surely? | |
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| radio bolton. on 17:34 - Aug 6 with 2523 views | James1980 |
| radio bolton. on 17:27 - Aug 6 by TVOS1907 |
You're joking about Eyre, surely? |
Any relation of FRMSE | |
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| radio bolton. on 17:35 - Aug 6 with 2512 views | TVOS1907 |
| radio bolton. on 17:34 - Aug 6 by James1980 |
Any relation of FRMSE |
Father | |
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