| Open Letter to Joy Hart 12:23 - Aug 22 with 6483 views | EGP |
Dear Joy,
I watched your impromptu interview on the telly and before it started, I was full of admiration for what I would call a plucky old girl standing up for what she believes in.
With a fair mind, I listened intently to your thoughts and became astonished at your views, assertations and untruths that you spilled out with monotony.
Unfortunately, the immediate audience to which you speak, will choose not to take issue with you, but when it goes out live on the telly, you open up a much wider can of worms, perhaps unwittingly, but open nonetheless.
It goes without saying, that if you speak to a few hundred bury fans the IQ pool is going to be significantly below any normal average.
However, on a National level, you are being listened to by people of far greater intellect and common sense than you would typically expect to meet at Gigg Lane.
Bearing this in mind, I will take issue with a number of things you said or suggested in your two-minute spell in the limelight.
1. bury FC is not a big club. It is certainly not in the same bracket as the Manchester or Liverpool clubs as you suggested. If you graded the 92 clubs from top to bottom, bury would be in the bottom 20, whilst the Manchester and Liverpool clubs would be in the top 10. You shouldn’t come out with nonsense like this because some bury fans are so thick they will believe you, and therefore will adopt an even bigger swagger. You are misleading your public.
2. The town of bury will not die if bury FC goes bust. On the contrary, it will most likely do better as a local economy. Whilst the football club currently owes £115,195 to Bury MBC (and £148,533 to Trafford MBC), the local council has less money to invest in local services and local employment. This is bad for the town.
You claim that if the club dies, local businesses will be out of pocket as a consequence. Notwithstanding the scores of local businesses who are already out of pocket due to the club not paying its bills, the amount of money that actually goes into the wider town on matchdays is negligible.
Most, if not all monies spent will be taxed, with that money going to central government (eg alcohol duty). The knock-on benefits to the town from 500 visiting fans is tangible as 95% of their total spend will be in transport costs and costs at the stadium, none of which currently filter their way through in wages to staff or taxes to Bury MBC.
If you are going to fight bury’s plight on economic grounds, you need a brain, a business sense, and an emotional blackout on your football club.
Even if you had all three, you’d still lose the argument. Indeed, turning your argument around, if bury FC didn’t exist, just think how much more money bury fans would have to spend locally in businesses which do pay their way.
3. The plea to other clubs, who in your words are the same size as bury, to bail you out is laughable. Why should they? And why should bury be the sole recipient of charity in League One? If City give your club £1m then surely, to be fair, they should give the other 23 clubs £1m also?
4. Your protest was sadly marred by a Neanderthal attacking a door. Clearly this individual should have been left in the kiln 30 minutes longer before birth, perhaps even as long as an hour.
Whilst unconnected to you, it seemed his gripe was with your current owner not paying club staff and also with club staff who still choose to work for the club.
Given his difficulty in stringing a few words together, I might be wrong on that, but if I’m right, can you answer me this? What is the difference between bury FC not paying players for services rendered and not paying small businesses for services rendered?
Had the Neanderthal been from the Bolton and Bury Lads and Girls Club demanding his £2,100 they are owed, would you have been on his side? Most right-minded people would have been if you’re not sure.
5. Why do you and several other bury fans think that the world revolves around your club? It doesn’t. You are not a victim. You and the aggrieved fans are a consequence of doing fook all when it was blindingly obvious six years ago that bury FC was on its way to the wall on your watch.
There’s a very long thread on this messageboard which acts as a running commentary to the slippery slide into oblivion that your club has been journeying towards for many years. Given the evidence presented to bury fans over the last six years here and elsewhere, I have one really simple question for you.
WHERE WERE YOU AND YOUR HANDCUFFS FIVE YEARS AGO?
And whilst we’re at it, where was Neanderthal man? Where were the protesters? Where was Kenny? Where were all the stomach-churning sob stories who suddenly pop up like rats in a shit tip pleading innocence and mercy?
We’ve tried to help. We’ve tried to instil humility and responsibility into you and your club. We’ve played Devil’s Advocate, and yes, we’ve taken the piss at times and had a good laugh at your expense. As you have with us.
But, take off the bitter myopic glasses, look around and what do you see?
(I hope to God the answer isn’t a car-park).
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 12:29 - Aug 22 with 4747 views | dingdangblue |
At least she got free pizza and a can of John Smith's.
Fookin result!
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 12:30 - Aug 22 with 4742 views | Plattyswrinklynuts |
Great post EGP. Suggest you send a copy to Henry Winter (journalist) who is apparently outside Giggle at the mo. [Post edited 22 Aug 2019 12:38]
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 12:34 - Aug 22 with 4698 views | electricblue |
Brilliantly written..
Hope you dont mind if i copied and tasted the letter to a Bury mate.. |  |
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 12:37 - Aug 22 with 4663 views | finberty |
Great post EGP.
I'm not an expert, but it might be quite tricky eating a boxed pizza with one hand manacled.
Has she had much practice? |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 12:41 - Aug 22 with 4637 views | DaleiLama |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 12:29 - Aug 22 by dingdangblue |
At least she got free pizza and a can of John Smith's.
Fookin result!
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Supping John Smiths from the can too, with the biggest tray of condiments you ever saw and a box of chocolate muffins. I'm going to chain myself to Spotland if I get that sort of service. £3.50 for a pie? Pfffft. |  |
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 12:54 - Aug 22 with 4559 views | ParkinsGimp |
Brilliant and hope that the mong Henry Winter wises up to this pathetic club and its lies.
A whole club built on lies and carparks. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 12:59 - Aug 22 with 4522 views | SuddenLad |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 12:41 - Aug 22 by DaleiLama |
Supping John Smiths from the can too, with the biggest tray of condiments you ever saw and a box of chocolate muffins. I'm going to chain myself to Spotland if I get that sort of service. £3.50 for a pie? Pfffft. |
Don't forget your flask......  |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 13:03 - Aug 22 with 4488 views | DaleiLama |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 12:59 - Aug 22 by SuddenLad |
Don't forget your flask...... |
I'll upgrade to a hip flask if it's going to be an overnight jobby! | |
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 13:03 - Aug 22 with 4487 views | Molly |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 12:34 - Aug 22 by electricblue |
Brilliantly written..
Hope you dont mind if i copied and tasted the letter to a Bury mate.. |
What did the letter taste of? | | | |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 13:05 - Aug 22 with 4471 views | DaleiLama |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 13:03 - Aug 22 by Molly |
What did the letter taste of? |
It as a funny taste. | |
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 13:08 - Aug 22 with 4445 views | KenBoon |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 12:54 - Aug 22 by ParkinsGimp |
Brilliant and hope that the mong Henry Winter wises up to this pathetic club and its lies.
A whole club built on lies and carparks. |
There is content to be written, clicks to be had, and sometimes the unfortunate facts are harder to type/sell than the story the people want to hear, especially when they are on their death bed. The fact some articles even mention their overspending suggests the victim narrative won't age well. |  | | |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 13:13 - Aug 22 with 4405 views | kel |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 13:03 - Aug 22 by Molly |
What did the letter taste of? |
Aribos |  | | |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 13:15 - Aug 22 with 4377 views | DaleiLama |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 13:13 - Aug 22 by kel |
Aribos |
Aero?  | |
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 15:16 - Aug 22 with 4029 views | DaleiLama |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart (n/t) on 14:13 - Aug 22 by D_Alien |
Hips obviously!
Soz, was thinking of your flask... [Post edited 22 Aug 2019 15:18]
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Ip! | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:28 - Aug 22 with 3734 views | cw1 |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 12:29 - Aug 22 by dingdangblue |
At least she got free pizza and a can of John Smith's.
Fookin result!
[Post edited 22 Aug 2019 12:32]
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Bury thread. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:31 - Aug 22 with 3713 views | D_Alien |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:28 - Aug 22 by cw1 |
Bury thread. |
You're hanging yourself by every thread |  |
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 21:39 - Aug 22 with 3677 views | judd |
Fookin hell EGP, have a hart! |  |
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 21:59 - Aug 22 with 3621 views | cw1 |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 21:39 - Aug 22 by judd |
Fookin hell EGP, have a hart! |
Insulting a female. Been brought up to respect them. All you lot wont have any kind of standards. PATHETIC. | | | |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 22:05 - Aug 22 with 3597 views | JumeirahDale |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 21:59 - Aug 22 by cw1 |
Insulting a female. Been brought up to respect them. All you lot wont have any kind of standards. PATHETIC. |
And your way of respecting them was presumably never going near one? |  | | |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 22:05 - Aug 22 with 3596 views | Fondles |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 21:59 - Aug 22 by cw1 |
Insulting a female. Been brought up to respect them. All you lot wont have any kind of standards. PATHETIC. |
Is that what it is? |  | | |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 22:08 - Aug 22 with 3581 views | DaleiLama |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 22:05 - Aug 22 by JumeirahDale |
And your way of respecting them was presumably never going near one? |
He's a right tit, so technically he's part of one? | |
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| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 01:01 - Aug 27 with 3133 views | Shakerbhoy |
Fcuk me what a boring life you lead,far too much time on your hands,you must be a real joy for your spouse...or cousin. |  | | |
| Open Letter to Joy Hart on 02:33 - Aug 27 with 3085 views | downunder |
Since reading this, I cannot stop Beethoven's 9th Symphony being "on a loop" in my head.
Must be the O/P that has triggered it.
Anything happening today in the UK? |  | | |
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