Trust Membership Renewals on 22:52 - Aug 7 with 12540 views | Cooperman | How does one get access to the members only Facebook page? | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 00:51 - Aug 8 with 12465 views | UplandsJack | Done. | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 06:07 - Aug 8 with 12413 views | AguycalledJack | Done | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 08:30 - Aug 8 with 12352 views | Phil_S |
Trust Membership Renewals on 22:52 - Aug 7 by Cooperman | How does one get access to the members only Facebook page? |
Now see you assume I should know that If you request to join (which I think you can via the link below) then someone (I don't know who but someone) will check the database and approve it https://www.facebook.com/groups/Trustmembers/ | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 09:26 - Aug 8 with 12285 views | STID2017 | Done | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 09:44 - Aug 8 with 12273 views | Jackfath | I've rejoined over the last few years and have had little communication and action. I would like to see some sort of statement from the new board outlining why I should join, and more importantly what they are now going to do within their tenure. | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 11:04 - Aug 8 with 12217 views | owainglyndwr |
Trust Membership Renewals on 09:44 - Aug 8 by Jackfath | I've rejoined over the last few years and have had little communication and action. I would like to see some sort of statement from the new board outlining why I should join, and more importantly what they are now going to do within their tenure. |
Same here really JF. I would like to hear of people's thoughts on the Trust first. | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 11:14 - Aug 8 with 12214 views | Wingstandwood |
Trust Membership Renewals on 09:44 - Aug 8 by Jackfath | I've rejoined over the last few years and have had little communication and action. I would like to see some sort of statement from the new board outlining why I should join, and more importantly what they are now going to do within their tenure. |
I wonder if you are curious about the mediation also? Gone extremely quiet?.... It does rather seem to be dragging on? And bearing in mind the way the share deal pay-out was seemingly betrayed and kicked into the long grass previously?....Looks like there me be something dodgy going on here again? Speaking as a long term ex-member myself, I reckon many may rejoin if they see admirable news flow/communication/movement from the Trust? | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 11:18 - Aug 8 with 12208 views | Jackfath | I just feel a request from the Trust to rejoin without any up to date news and a course of action (as far as they are able to communicate) is taking the piss somewhat. Especially as Pip has said several times since getting back on board that they need to increase numbers. Perhaps an immediate "newsletter" and then a membership drive would have been a better idea? | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 11:29 - Aug 8 with 12201 views | Wingstandwood |
Trust Membership Renewals on 11:18 - Aug 8 by Jackfath | I just feel a request from the Trust to rejoin without any up to date news and a course of action (as far as they are able to communicate) is taking the piss somewhat. Especially as Pip has said several times since getting back on board that they need to increase numbers. Perhaps an immediate "newsletter" and then a membership drive would have been a better idea? |
Aye, the mediation with SCST? That came to light on here 18th May this year... Any vital new communication on that doing the rounds? It'll be 3 months in a little over a week.........No updates since the last update nearly three months back? Trust Update... by marchamjack 18 May 2018 20:34CONFIDENTIAL
This update is being sent to you as a registered member of Swansea City Supporters’ Society Limited, which is also known as the ‘Swansea City Supporters’ Trust’ (‘Trust’). If you are not a member of the Trust, please do not read it. If you are a member, please do not share it or pass it on to others. On the advice of our lawyers, we need to state that nothing in this update is, or is intended as, a waiver of legal professional privilege or any other type of privilege.
In January 2018 the majority owners of Swansea City decided to ‘put on hold’ indefinitely the ongoing discussions on the previously proposed deal relating to the part sale of the Trust’s shareholding in Swansea City Football 2002 Limited, which (through another company) owns the Football Club. With no indication as to whether the deal could be resurrected in the future, the Trust engaged further specialist legal advice in order to determine the next steps that could be taken to best protect the interests of the Trust and, therefore, our members. It will be recalled that we have previously reported that initial advice from Queen’s Counsel (a senior lawyer) was taken last year.
As a result, the Trust and our legal advisers have carried out a comprehensive review of the circumstances surrounding the 2016 sale of a controlling interest in the Club and the impact of these events on the Trust and our shareholding. This involved going back to 2001/2002, when the Club was saved from bankruptcy by the Trust and others, and establishing the relevant factual history and developments from then until the present day. Many people and sources had to be consulted to achieve this and the exercise has only been completed within the last few days.
Our lawyers have today sent (by electronic means or post) to the Club and its shareholders a detailed letter, setting out a number of legal claims on the part of the Trust, including complaints as to the very negative impact the sale and related matters have had on the Trust’s position as a shareholder. The letter and its schedules extend to some 60 pages.
On advice from our lawyers, and in accordance with Court guidelines, the Trust has offered to enter into a formal ‘mediation’ process with the majority owners and others, in order to seek to resolve these claims and complaints. The aim is to seek a provisional agreement to settle past differences, with a view to moving ahead together with the task of rebuilding the Club and returning it to top level football. Any such provisional agreement would be put to members for approval, by way of a consultation.
Mediation is a voluntary and confidential process in which relevant parties seek to resolve disputes with the assistance of a trained independent and impartial mediator. The mediator cannot impose a solution, but uses his or her skills to bring the parties together. The letter that has been sent proposes that mediation takes place in early July, to allow time for responses to be provided to the letter. While it is a voluntary process, mediation is increasingly being seen by courts as a necessary first step before any formal court proceedings are taken and costs sanctions can be applied for unreasonably failing to mediate. The Trust is duty bound to explore all available legal avenues to protect the interests of the Trust and our members. If mediation were refused or the process proved unsuccessful, and if Trust members support such action, future court proceedings are possible.
If a potential resolution is achieved via the mediation process, it will be set out in a binding, written settlement agreement. However, we can assure our members that any agreement will not be finalised unless it is approved by Trust members as part of a formal consultation exercise.
Members should be aware, however, that if the offer of formal mediation is accepted, that it is a confidential process. This means that the Trust Board will be limited in what we are able to report during the mediation process, unless or until a provisional agreement is reached (or alternative options are identified) on which members can be consulted.
We will update members as soon as we are able to provide further information.
Best wishes
The Swans Trust Team
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Trust Membership Renewals on 11:38 - Aug 8 with 12192 views | UplandsJack |
Trust Membership Renewals on 11:29 - Aug 8 by Wingstandwood | Aye, the mediation with SCST? That came to light on here 18th May this year... Any vital new communication on that doing the rounds? It'll be 3 months in a little over a week.........No updates since the last update nearly three months back? Trust Update... by marchamjack 18 May 2018 20:34CONFIDENTIAL
This update is being sent to you as a registered member of Swansea City Supporters’ Society Limited, which is also known as the ‘Swansea City Supporters’ Trust’ (‘Trust’). If you are not a member of the Trust, please do not read it. If you are a member, please do not share it or pass it on to others. On the advice of our lawyers, we need to state that nothing in this update is, or is intended as, a waiver of legal professional privilege or any other type of privilege.
In January 2018 the majority owners of Swansea City decided to ‘put on hold’ indefinitely the ongoing discussions on the previously proposed deal relating to the part sale of the Trust’s shareholding in Swansea City Football 2002 Limited, which (through another company) owns the Football Club. With no indication as to whether the deal could be resurrected in the future, the Trust engaged further specialist legal advice in order to determine the next steps that could be taken to best protect the interests of the Trust and, therefore, our members. It will be recalled that we have previously reported that initial advice from Queen’s Counsel (a senior lawyer) was taken last year.
As a result, the Trust and our legal advisers have carried out a comprehensive review of the circumstances surrounding the 2016 sale of a controlling interest in the Club and the impact of these events on the Trust and our shareholding. This involved going back to 2001/2002, when the Club was saved from bankruptcy by the Trust and others, and establishing the relevant factual history and developments from then until the present day. Many people and sources had to be consulted to achieve this and the exercise has only been completed within the last few days.
Our lawyers have today sent (by electronic means or post) to the Club and its shareholders a detailed letter, setting out a number of legal claims on the part of the Trust, including complaints as to the very negative impact the sale and related matters have had on the Trust’s position as a shareholder. The letter and its schedules extend to some 60 pages.
On advice from our lawyers, and in accordance with Court guidelines, the Trust has offered to enter into a formal ‘mediation’ process with the majority owners and others, in order to seek to resolve these claims and complaints. The aim is to seek a provisional agreement to settle past differences, with a view to moving ahead together with the task of rebuilding the Club and returning it to top level football. Any such provisional agreement would be put to members for approval, by way of a consultation.
Mediation is a voluntary and confidential process in which relevant parties seek to resolve disputes with the assistance of a trained independent and impartial mediator. The mediator cannot impose a solution, but uses his or her skills to bring the parties together. The letter that has been sent proposes that mediation takes place in early July, to allow time for responses to be provided to the letter. While it is a voluntary process, mediation is increasingly being seen by courts as a necessary first step before any formal court proceedings are taken and costs sanctions can be applied for unreasonably failing to mediate. The Trust is duty bound to explore all available legal avenues to protect the interests of the Trust and our members. If mediation were refused or the process proved unsuccessful, and if Trust members support such action, future court proceedings are possible.
If a potential resolution is achieved via the mediation process, it will be set out in a binding, written settlement agreement. However, we can assure our members that any agreement will not be finalised unless it is approved by Trust members as part of a formal consultation exercise.
Members should be aware, however, that if the offer of formal mediation is accepted, that it is a confidential process. This means that the Trust Board will be limited in what we are able to report during the mediation process, unless or until a provisional agreement is reached (or alternative options are identified) on which members can be consulted.
We will update members as soon as we are able to provide further information.
Best wishes
The Swans Trust Team
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Maybe that was what Phil was talking about when he said yesterday he/they were waiting on "An-other"( non board member) to be able to give a clear update on all things. I believe he said 48 - 72 hours. So maybe we should hear more Tomorrow or Friday at latest. | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 11:59 - Aug 8 with 12172 views | Jackfath | I hadn't read this thread before making my comments; Trust Meeting by UplandsJack 7 Aug 2018 8:38So how did the first trust meeting go since the recent election, last night wasn't it?
Who's been allocated with what responsibility?
Who's been voted as new trust chair?
Have anyone learnt exactly what Stuart McD actually does?
Look forward to hearing all from our promised, much more transparent, group of representatives ðŸ‘🻠| |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 12:02 - Aug 8 with 12168 views | libertyx | Renewed | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 12:14 - Aug 8 with 12155 views | Wingstandwood |
Trust Membership Renewals on 11:38 - Aug 8 by UplandsJack | Maybe that was what Phil was talking about when he said yesterday he/they were waiting on "An-other"( non board member) to be able to give a clear update on all things. I believe he said 48 - 72 hours. So maybe we should hear more Tomorrow or Friday at latest. |
Yeah be nice to know, cos that is imo 'THE' topic/SCST related issue currently of most interest to many. It does look that the club will not be having a relegation struggle this season? That will be a plus because the Yanks, Jenkins and sell-outs would love an excuse (like with last seasons relegation struggle) to stall things and betray even further i.e. a case of using emotional blackmailing via propaganda/PR line that behind the scenes turmoil will effect what's going on the pitch. | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 13:46 - Aug 8 with 12084 views | wobbly |
Trust Membership Renewals on 08:30 - Aug 8 by Phil_S | Now see you assume I should know that If you request to join (which I think you can via the link below) then someone (I don't know who but someone) will check the database and approve it https://www.facebook.com/groups/Trustmembers/ |
Did everyone get kicked out on 31 July when membership lapsed? Do you then need to apply again to join? | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 16:17 - Aug 8 with 12022 views | longlostjack | Done | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 17:03 - Aug 8 with 11992 views | Phil_S |
Trust Membership Renewals on 12:14 - Aug 8 by Wingstandwood | Yeah be nice to know, cos that is imo 'THE' topic/SCST related issue currently of most interest to many. It does look that the club will not be having a relegation struggle this season? That will be a plus because the Yanks, Jenkins and sell-outs would love an excuse (like with last seasons relegation struggle) to stall things and betray even further i.e. a case of using emotional blackmailing via propaganda/PR line that behind the scenes turmoil will effect what's going on the pitch. |
I will answer as best as I can as trying to get fully up to speed An update on mediation will follow (that won't be in the 48-72 hour timescale) as soon as it can be. It has been the advice of the legal team that we do not continually update in the public domain (either on a forum like this or direct to members) but as you have pointed out the last update was almost three months ago. The plan is to get an update from the mediator on his return from holiday and then an update will be provided as soon as he advises how we proceed as clearly the key is not to weaken any legal case. This isn't a lack of desire to communicate just key that we follow his advice to the letter so nothing gets damaged. In terms of why should you join the Trust? It has been one week since the formation (appointment) of the new board so little has had chance to change however there is a key desire to make communications better. One of the key things that I would say to anyone at the moment is that there is almost certainly going to be a members consultation very soon around the share sale (no matter what the outcome of mediation) and if you would like a say in that consultation then you will need to be a member. I would encourage nobody to wait until its announced because at that time it is too late A newsletter will be sent to all members (last year) that will arrive for the weekend and copies are available at the pod this weekend I believe (as stated elsewjhere I haven't seen the newsletter) and a membership drive will follow soon but with the switchover of boards, time has been limited on that front to get a fuller strategy in place in time for anything this weekend However, the key for me is the share issue and to anyone that feels passionately about that and the part the Trust should play in the club then join is the only answer | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 17:05 - Aug 8 with 11989 views | Wingstandwood |
Trust Membership Renewals on 17:03 - Aug 8 by Phil_S | I will answer as best as I can as trying to get fully up to speed An update on mediation will follow (that won't be in the 48-72 hour timescale) as soon as it can be. It has been the advice of the legal team that we do not continually update in the public domain (either on a forum like this or direct to members) but as you have pointed out the last update was almost three months ago. The plan is to get an update from the mediator on his return from holiday and then an update will be provided as soon as he advises how we proceed as clearly the key is not to weaken any legal case. This isn't a lack of desire to communicate just key that we follow his advice to the letter so nothing gets damaged. In terms of why should you join the Trust? It has been one week since the formation (appointment) of the new board so little has had chance to change however there is a key desire to make communications better. One of the key things that I would say to anyone at the moment is that there is almost certainly going to be a members consultation very soon around the share sale (no matter what the outcome of mediation) and if you would like a say in that consultation then you will need to be a member. I would encourage nobody to wait until its announced because at that time it is too late A newsletter will be sent to all members (last year) that will arrive for the weekend and copies are available at the pod this weekend I believe (as stated elsewjhere I haven't seen the newsletter) and a membership drive will follow soon but with the switchover of boards, time has been limited on that front to get a fuller strategy in place in time for anything this weekend However, the key for me is the share issue and to anyone that feels passionately about that and the part the Trust should play in the club then join is the only answer |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 17:11 - Aug 8 with 11985 views | Algorfajack | Done | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 18:25 - Aug 8 with 11930 views | Phil_S | Thank you to everyone who has joined/renewed | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 22:39 - Aug 8 with 11772 views | Andy1300 | I joined for the first time. | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 22:45 - Aug 8 with 11764 views | Loyal | Everyone remembers their first-time. | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 07:57 - Aug 9 with 11657 views | builthjack | We didn't join last year because of the complete and utter mess. Let's see some proper action this year. Phil seems to be on board and holds his hand up that big mistakes were made. So I will put my trust in the trust. Don't let me down. 4 memberships will be done tonight. | |
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Trust Membership Renewals on 08:41 - Aug 9 with 11626 views | Jinxy |
Trust Membership Renewals on 17:03 - Aug 8 by Phil_S | I will answer as best as I can as trying to get fully up to speed An update on mediation will follow (that won't be in the 48-72 hour timescale) as soon as it can be. It has been the advice of the legal team that we do not continually update in the public domain (either on a forum like this or direct to members) but as you have pointed out the last update was almost three months ago. The plan is to get an update from the mediator on his return from holiday and then an update will be provided as soon as he advises how we proceed as clearly the key is not to weaken any legal case. This isn't a lack of desire to communicate just key that we follow his advice to the letter so nothing gets damaged. In terms of why should you join the Trust? It has been one week since the formation (appointment) of the new board so little has had chance to change however there is a key desire to make communications better. One of the key things that I would say to anyone at the moment is that there is almost certainly going to be a members consultation very soon around the share sale (no matter what the outcome of mediation) and if you would like a say in that consultation then you will need to be a member. I would encourage nobody to wait until its announced because at that time it is too late A newsletter will be sent to all members (last year) that will arrive for the weekend and copies are available at the pod this weekend I believe (as stated elsewjhere I haven't seen the newsletter) and a membership drive will follow soon but with the switchover of boards, time has been limited on that front to get a fuller strategy in place in time for anything this weekend However, the key for me is the share issue and to anyone that feels passionately about that and the part the Trust should play in the club then join is the only answer |
Thanks Phil. I rejoin via standing order by the way - far easier. One thing I also think we need to tackle is why we only typically get 50% of the membership voting. Perhaps try and seek out one or two of those who didn't and find out reasons for their apathy, then address same? Pointless sending out a survey though as they probably wouldn't reply to that either! Maybe once the dust has settled, a general comms/"meet the new Trust" meeting at the Liberty? | | | |
Trust Membership Renewals on 15:24 - Aug 9 with 11499 views | Landore_Jack | Will the Trust be making a statement regarding the recent transfer window farce? [Post edited 9 Aug 2018 15:24]
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