| Lucketti quits 22:38 - Jan 14 with 49828 views | fitzochris |
News emerging... [Post edited 14 Jan 2018 22:38]
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| Lucketti quits on 19:13 - Jan 15 with 3853 views | TVOS1907 |
| Lucketti quits on 19:05 - Jan 15 by BURYFC_1885 |
I was speaking generally, rather than about you specifically. |
Actually, thinking about it, Lucketti is an ex-Dale player so this thread is about one of our own. |  |
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| Lucketti quits on 19:17 - Jan 15 with 3831 views | MoonyDale |
| Lucketti quits on 19:05 - Jan 15 by BlueDales |
Much like Celtic have suffered financially and remained stagnant in a footballing sense from not having regular derbies against Rangers, Dale don't benefit from Bury struggling financially/going out of business. Far from it.
Derbies are the matches that bring the crowds in. Bury dropping down the divisions due to financial trouble would hurt us too. |
Am not sure Bury dropping down will affect us in the slightest, seeing as we will be dropping right along with them... |  |
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| Lucketti quits on 19:27 - Jan 15 with 3777 views | BURYFC_1885 |
| Lucketti quits on 19:05 - Jan 15 by BlueDales |
Much like Celtic have suffered financially and remained stagnant in a footballing sense from not having regular derbies against Rangers, Dale don't benefit from Bury struggling financially/going out of business. Far from it.
Derbies are the matches that bring the crowds in. Bury dropping down the divisions due to financial trouble would hurt us too. |
In the case of Bury and Rochdale, I'm not sure I agree with this notion.
Celtic and Rangers are two massive clubs, the only two in Scotland. Celtic would make a lot more in gate receipts playing against Rangers than against St Johnstone.
However Bury and Rochdale are two small clubs whose Derby figures attract usually only 5/6,000 fans in total. I'd argue staying in League One with teams such as Bradford, Blackburn, Bolton and Sheff U etc who will bring 3,750 away fans would be more beneficial for both clubs financially.
Going by Stewart Day's logic getting into the Championship would be even better... every team in that league including the likes of Millwall, Burton and Reading would bring 6,000 away fans to every match.... according to him anyway. [Post edited 15 Jan 2018 19:32]
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| Lucketti quits on 19:29 - Jan 15 with 3770 views | electricblue |
Possibilty that Oldham could be in the mix aswell...... |  |
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| Lucketti quits on 21:56 - Jan 15 with 3523 views | Ernst_Stavro |
| Lucketti quits on 18:55 - Jan 15 by BigDaveMyCock |
Yeah and you expect me to believe that. What you lot do to goats is disgusting. [Post edited 15 Jan 2018 20:21]
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You're only jealous 'cos you have to make do with sloppy seconds ..... ;) |  | | |
| Lucketti quits on 22:17 - Jan 15 with 3472 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Lucketti quits on 18:34 - Jan 15 by since58 |
be careful what you wish for. |
Totally agree 58, totally agree......our own current crop for December, are nothing special at all but at least we are scoring the odd one or two,for which I am truly thankful.
Amen to that. | | | |
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| Lucketti quits on 08:23 - Jan 16 with 3283 views | VivaDonaldo |
| Lucketti quits on 08:08 - Jan 16 by aleanddale |
Day has gone unusually quiet!!
Maybe he is busy building stadiums as the buckets move into their new one in 6 months time.
according to him anyway! [Post edited 16 Jan 2018 9:42]
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Knowing Bury they probably had Carillion as the contractor on the build and paid them up front.
Strange when the most unbelievable part of the last sentence is Bury paying up.... | | | |
| Lucketti quits on 16:04 - Jan 16 with 3138 views | BURYFC_1885 |
| Lucketti quits on 18:57 - Jan 15 by 442Dale |
I'm aware of the messageboard threads and what happened to individuals mentioned within them. That was in the past, we are talking about what they've done since/are doing now to represent supporters' concerns, and then subsequently inform ALL fans of what occurs when they liaise with the club by ensuring there is a consistency to their output in the public domain.
Edit: thanks for the offer to dig out the info or to email. But that's exactly the issue, there should be a clear process so that information is being made available to all Bury supporters via their website. This is something we successfully manage through our Trust at Dale who are fully aware that they are there to represent all fans, ask questions, then made public the answers. [Post edited 15 Jan 2018 19:02]
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In response to the edit:
You have to understand the questions being asked by the Dale trust towards Dunphy (?) are not on the same level as the ones being asked towards Stewart Day. Hence, communication between club and supporters trust is more easily maintained.
I'd have though this would be quite an obvious factor and I'm fairly sure I've gone over this point before.
Questions put to Day essentially calling him a crook, questions about CCJ's, loans against club assets, the clubs debt levels etc are much less likely to be answered than say questions about why fans can't drink in the Ratcliffe Arms at half time, or why the price of pies has gone up by 15p
Look, I've seen the types of questions the Dale Trust forward to the Rochdale board, and I've also seen the questions that Forever Bury put forward to Stewart Day. They simply are not comparable. | | | |
| Lucketti quits on 16:08 - Jan 16 with 3120 views | R11BFC |
| Lucketti quits on 16:04 - Jan 16 by BURYFC_1885 |
In response to the edit:
You have to understand the questions being asked by the Dale trust towards Dunphy (?) are not on the same level as the ones being asked towards Stewart Day. Hence, communication between club and supporters trust is more easily maintained.
I'd have though this would be quite an obvious factor and I'm fairly sure I've gone over this point before.
Questions put to Day essentially calling him a crook, questions about CCJ's, loans against club assets, the clubs debt levels etc are much less likely to be answered than say questions about why fans can't drink in the Ratcliffe Arms at half time, or why the price of pies has gone up by 15p
Look, I've seen the types of questions the Dale Trust forward to the Rochdale board, and I've also seen the questions that Forever Bury put forward to Stewart Day. They simply are not comparable. |
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| Lucketti quits on 16:13 - Jan 16 with 3085 views | SuddenLad |
| Lucketti quits on 16:04 - Jan 16 by BURYFC_1885 |
In response to the edit:
You have to understand the questions being asked by the Dale trust towards Dunphy (?) are not on the same level as the ones being asked towards Stewart Day. Hence, communication between club and supporters trust is more easily maintained.
I'd have though this would be quite an obvious factor and I'm fairly sure I've gone over this point before.
Questions put to Day essentially calling him a crook, questions about CCJ's, loans against club assets, the clubs debt levels etc are much less likely to be answered than say questions about why fans can't drink in the Ratcliffe Arms at half time, or why the price of pies has gone up by 15p
Look, I've seen the types of questions the Dale Trust forward to the Rochdale board, and I've also seen the questions that Forever Bury put forward to Stewart Day. They simply are not comparable. |
You're quite right. There are plenty of questions that could be asked of the Dale board that would never get a full and frank response. That's the way of things.
There's no chance anyone will get any full answers to the Bury debacle, unless the person being asked is in a witness box being cross-examined. |  |
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| Lucketti quits on 16:20 - Jan 16 with 3068 views | R11BFC |
| Lucketti quits on 16:13 - Jan 16 by SuddenLad |
You're quite right. There are plenty of questions that could be asked of the Dale board that would never get a full and frank response. That's the way of things.
There's no chance anyone will get any full answers to the Bury debacle, unless the person being asked is in a witness box being cross-examined. |
Nail and head.
Mr Day has agreed to do a Fans Forum on the 29th of Jan btw...so should be fun. 
Some of you lot should come along! | |
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| Lucketti quits on 16:27 - Jan 16 with 3038 views | DaleiLama |
| Lucketti quits on 16:20 - Jan 16 by R11BFC |
Nail and head.
Mr Day has agreed to do a Fans Forum on the 29th of Jan btw...so should be fun.
Some of you lot should come along! |
Just been onto MEN Arena website to check forthcoming and events and can't find a listing? |  |
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| Lucketti quits on 16:31 - Jan 16 with 3021 views | nordenblue |
| Lucketti quits on 16:20 - Jan 16 by R11BFC |
Nail and head.
Mr Day has agreed to do a Fans Forum on the 29th of Jan btw...so should be fun.
Some of you lot should come along! |
Will that happen on time too like the concert and new stadium,championship football etc etc......... he'll need a good few milky bars that night | | | |
| Lucketti quits on 17:31 - Jan 16 with 2942 views | aleanddale |
| Lucketti quits on 16:31 - Jan 16 by nordenblue |
Will that happen on time too like the concert and new stadium,championship football etc etc......... he'll need a good few milky bars that night |
A whole box of Milky bars might not be enough!!
there will still be a few gigglers though grinning with white chocolate smeared faces!! | | | |
| Lucketti quits on 18:40 - Jan 16 with 2856 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Lucketti quits on 16:20 - Jan 16 by R11BFC |
Nail and head.
Mr Day has agreed to do a Fans Forum on the 29th of Jan btw...so should be fun.
Some of you lot should come along! |
How much is the Entry Fee, R11?
Any supporting acts? | | | |
| Lucketti quits on 18:45 - Jan 16 with 2839 views | R11BFC |
| Lucketti quits on 18:40 - Jan 16 by Yorkshire_Dale |
How much is the Entry Fee, R11?
Any supporting acts? |
Entry is free but by ticket. They're expecting a full house.
And just the one act...that's enough for one night!  | |
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| Lucketti quits on 19:24 - Jan 16 with 2784 views | 442Dale |
| Lucketti quits on 16:13 - Jan 16 by SuddenLad |
You're quite right. There are plenty of questions that could be asked of the Dale board that would never get a full and frank response. That's the way of things.
There's no chance anyone will get any full answers to the Bury debacle, unless the person being asked is in a witness box being cross-examined. |
I agree, but where are the examples of Forever Bury's questions on behalf of supporters with responses/no comments? They may be out there and that's why it was asked.
Yes, there have been personal accounts of forums etc on a messageboard but as a voice of supporters, where is the official stance of Forever Bury on the situation?
And again, it may well be there, that's why there was a request for a link. Tedious "I spoke to Day/Thomas/the cat and they said this, this and this" gets nowhere. Make it official. If that means there's no further contact, fine. Get that out there and at least everyone knows where they stand. At present the amount of uncertainty after FIVE years indicates previous methods have not worked at all.
Edit: as BURYFC1885 says, they've seen examples of questions asked. Where are they then? Have ALL Bury fans seen them, and the subsequent responses/non responses? If not, that's my point. eg. Is there a simple "where are we up to with the new stadium?" answer out there recently? [Post edited 16 Jan 2018 19:28]
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| Lucketti quits on 19:32 - Jan 16 with 2754 views | kiwidale |
| Lucketti quits on 18:45 - Jan 16 by R11BFC |
Entry is free but by ticket. They're expecting a full house.
And just the one act...that's enough for one night! |
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| Lucketti quits on 19:38 - Jan 16 with 2735 views | ColDale |
Is Mike Read the compere after his success at the weekend? |  | | |
| Lucketti quits on 19:55 - Jan 16 with 2710 views | TVOS1907 |
| Lucketti quits on 19:38 - Jan 16 by ColDale |
Is Mike Read the compere after his success at the weekend? |
Day's giving them the runaround...
Oh, wrong Mike Reid... | |
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| Lucketti quits on 20:59 - Jan 16 with 2650 views | BURYFC_1885 |
| Lucketti quits on 19:24 - Jan 16 by 442Dale |
I agree, but where are the examples of Forever Bury's questions on behalf of supporters with responses/no comments? They may be out there and that's why it was asked.
Yes, there have been personal accounts of forums etc on a messageboard but as a voice of supporters, where is the official stance of Forever Bury on the situation?
And again, it may well be there, that's why there was a request for a link. Tedious "I spoke to Day/Thomas/the cat and they said this, this and this" gets nowhere. Make it official. If that means there's no further contact, fine. Get that out there and at least everyone knows where they stand. At present the amount of uncertainty after FIVE years indicates previous methods have not worked at all.
Edit: as BURYFC1885 says, they've seen examples of questions asked. Where are they then? Have ALL Bury fans seen them, and the subsequent responses/non responses? If not, that's my point. eg. Is there a simple "where are we up to with the new stadium?" answer out there recently? [Post edited 16 Jan 2018 19:28]
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It's been previously explained to you that due to Forever Bury not giving into Day's ludicrous requests, they no longer have a seat on the board. Therefore, I think it is fair to say communications have broken down between Forever Bury and the club. This results in limited answers from the club regarding pressing issues.
Rochdale's supporters trust simply isn't comparable as there is no ill between club and trust and the nature of the questions posoed by Rochdale's supporters trust are not as severe. Plus they aren't being asked to cough up £50k for the privilege. | | | |
| Lucketti quits on 21:05 - Jan 16 with 2620 views | 442Dale |
| Lucketti quits on 20:59 - Jan 16 by BURYFC_1885 |
It's been previously explained to you that due to Forever Bury not giving into Day's ludicrous requests, they no longer have a seat on the board. Therefore, I think it is fair to say communications have broken down between Forever Bury and the club. This results in limited answers from the club regarding pressing issues.
Rochdale's supporters trust simply isn't comparable as there is no ill between club and trust and the nature of the questions posoed by Rochdale's supporters trust are not as severe. Plus they aren't being asked to cough up £50k for the privilege. |
I am taking on board what you say and can only reiterate the main point: where, in the public domain/on their website, is this information you state around “limited answers” and about “communications have broken down” and their current stance on the situation as representatives of the supporters?
I get your point completely, mine is where is the substance to illustrate how things are? Please point us to where that is on their website, genuinely may have missed it. | |
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| Lucketti quits on 21:11 - Jan 16 with 2587 views | 100notout |
| Lucketti quits on 18:45 - Jan 16 by R11BFC |
Entry is free but by ticket. They're expecting a full house.
And just the one act...that's enough for one night! |
A bury supporting mate of mine said the tickets were a fiver each and that gave them a "free" raffle ticket - the first prize was a VIP day with Stewart Day. The second prize was 2VIP days with Stewart Day!
Or is that another "event" R11? | |
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