| Independent Supporters Group 16:42 - Dec 3 with 47747 views | Phil_S |
OK been some discussion on this but who thinks this is the way to go
Details are really on this thread
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| Independent Supporters Group on 17:36 - Dec 3 with 3689 views | Vetchfielder |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:22 - Dec 3 by Eilian |
Why not just do this via the trust? Don't you feel that you are just splitting fan power in half? |
Or doubling it maybe ?  |  |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 17:37 - Dec 3 with 3681 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:24 - Dec 3 by jackportis |
Share Objectives and goals first then see if your group has support. |
A group of people who are unhappy with the current situation meet up and discuss objectives and goals and come to an agreement of those and the way forward.
Otherwise it's just someone deciding for the group which isn't the right way forward. |  |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 17:37 - Dec 3 with 3674 views | Phil_S |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:37 - Dec 3 by Joe_bradshaw |
A group of people who are unhappy with the current situation meet up and discuss objectives and goals and come to an agreement of those and the way forward.
Otherwise it's just someone deciding for the group which isn't the right way forward. |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 17:38 - Dec 3 with 3668 views | Jackfath |
With a bit of leg work I would virtually guarantee the new group would have more members than the Trust by the end of the first year. |  |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 17:38 - Dec 3 with 3666 views | max936 |
Count me in  |  |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 17:41 - Dec 3 with 3649 views | Eilian |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:38 - Dec 3 by Jackfath |
With a bit of leg work I would virtually guarantee the new group would have more members than the Trust by the end of the first year. |
It wouldn't take much given the trusts current numbers that's for sure! |  | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:41 - Dec 3 with 3640 views | Eilian |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:36 - Dec 3 by Vetchfielder |
Or doubling it maybe ? |
or probably just undermine the trust and make it appear weak. | | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:41 - Dec 3 with 3638 views | Jackfath |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:41 - Dec 3 by Eilian |
It wouldn't take much given the trusts current numbers that's for sure! |
They've only got themselves to blame. | |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 17:42 - Dec 3 with 3631 views | Eilian |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:41 - Dec 3 by Jackfath |
They've only got themselves to blame. |
quite right! | | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:43 - Dec 3 with 3629 views | TheFranchise |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:41 - Dec 3 by Eilian |
or probably just undermine the trust and make it appear weak. |
Appear weak? It is weak. |  | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:43 - Dec 3 with 3629 views | TheUnion |
I’m sure we can sort something out |  | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:45 - Dec 3 with 3607 views | TheFranchise |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:43 - Dec 3 by TheUnion |
I’m sure we can sort something out |
I'd rather we didn't use the name "union". | | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:59 - Dec 3 with 3547 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Maybe a stupid question, apologies if so. But if this was going to happen, could Phil head it up (he’d be my choice) while NDA’s have been signed during his time with the trust. The topics are obviously going to be discussed. |  | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:03 - Dec 3 with 3524 views | Eilian |
This is all a great idea! I mean I 100% agree that there should be better representation and communication between the fans and the board. In fact, I strongly believe that it would be quite straightforward to increase what the Trust is currently doing by 100X. It literally could be 100X better.
I definitely think that there is a better way to go about it than this howevr.
what will you do differently this time Phill? Were you not heavily involved in the running of the trust that has shown colossal shortcomings in its ability to not only communicate with but to represent the fans? | | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:05 - Dec 3 with 3518 views | Neath_Jack |
Is this going to be more of a "direct action" type group? Banners, songs, demonstrations, letting of tyres down etc? |  |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 18:12 - Dec 3 with 3466 views | Garyjack |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:05 - Dec 3 by Neath_Jack |
Is this going to be more of a "direct action" type group? Banners, songs, demonstrations, letting of tyres down etc? |
I was around Phil's earlier. Suffice to say, i think he's been planning this for some time.
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| Independent Supporters Group on 18:20 - Dec 3 with 3436 views | Neath_Jack |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:12 - Dec 3 by Garyjack |
I was around Phil's earlier. Suffice to say, i think he's been planning this for some time.
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I'm IN as long as i can have the .50 cal please. | |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 18:21 - Dec 3 with 3428 views | Smellyplumz |
I don't see the point personally we are fůcked what ever we do. Yanks don't care. |  |
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""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make." | | Poll: | Huw Jenkins |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 18:24 - Dec 3 with 3412 views | BillyChong |
Might as well give it a go seeing as the trust no longer seem to be the voice of the fans | | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:30 - Dec 3 with 3373 views | longlostjack |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:21 - Dec 3 by Smellyplumz |
I don't see the point personally we are fůcked what ever we do. Yanks don't care. |
That's the spirit  |  |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 18:32 - Dec 3 with 3357 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:21 - Dec 3 by Smellyplumz |
I don't see the point personally we are fůcked what ever we do. Yanks don't care. |
If they said that during the Petty days you wouldn’t have had seven years in premier league, league cup win and uefa cup run.
In the words of S Gerrard, we go again. | | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:33 - Dec 3 with 3349 views | Jackfath |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:21 - Dec 3 by Smellyplumz |
I don't see the point personally we are fůcked what ever we do. Yanks don't care. |
ARe you as negative in real life as you are on here? | |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 18:37 - Dec 3 with 3329 views | STID2017 |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:33 - Dec 3 by Jackfath |
ARe you as negative in real life as you are on here? |
And I bet he always leaves before the end ....  |  |
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| Independent Supporters Group on 18:50 - Dec 3 with 3270 views | SwanLuke |
| Independent Supporters Group on 17:31 - Dec 3 by Swanjaxs |
Will make a call now and try and set this up |
I actually feel a bit of positivity tonight. We know the core supporters will always be there and fight for the club we love. |  | | |
| Independent Supporters Group on 18:57 - Dec 3 with 3232 views | monmouth |
My gut feeling is that it has to be connected in some way to the Trust as otherwise what is the Trust for? That is, the Supporters Trust and the Supporters surely should have aligned objectives.
I totally get that it could be a militant wing that is not controlled by the Trust, could be much more vocal, and in fact can be a vehicle to keep the Trust 'honest' (can't think of a better word), but I can't see how they could have differing broad objectives. Otherwise what happens when the supporters trust disagrees with the supporters group or vice versa? Both must implicitly support each others activities even if there is no explicit public confirmation, or both grous will end up fighting each other rather than looking after the interests of supporters against the common 'enemy' (couldn't think of a better word).
Actually that idea of keeping the Trust from going 'native' (can't think of a better word) is getting more appealing by the second, as if this second group was to grow and the Trust Board was letting us down, then we all join the Trust and take it over, by voting all the 'natives' off. So I'm back to thinking there has to be a complicit agreement, even if the Trust can't or won't state that publicly.
Just stream-of-consciousness musing, sorry. That's a long winded way of saying yes, a group that can maybe do what the trust can't, and is not constrained by form over substance, in principle has my support. |  |
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