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Still feels like a win this morning. 10:27 - Nov 28 with 2487 viewsBrightonhoop

I suspect Brentford are a little sore this morning. That squad was not cheaply assembled and should really be higher up the League. Thought they were poor at times last night and couldn't break down our ragged squad first half. So glad we robbed 'em. 93rd and 94th min. The faces on them in the School End.... That's gotta hurt lol.
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Still feels like a win this morning. on 10:33 - Nov 28 with 2473 viewssuperhoopdownunder

I watched the first half from home this morning before being in the office for the second half.
I was buzzing all day after seeing our fightback - there was only around 1 minute 20 seconds between our goals.

One thing I have noticed is Smith and Sylla need service and balls flying in from the wings - when we do this we look dangerous - I don't understand why we don't play with more width (don't we have 6 or 7 wingers in our 37 man squad?)
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Still feels like a win this morning. on 10:41 - Nov 28 with 2448 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Never really registered any dislike or any...well, anything...for Brentford but their faces at the final whistle! Man, I laughed!

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Still feels like a win this morning. on 11:03 - Nov 28 with 2408 viewsterryb

For what it's worth, this my take on last night.

Firstly, we played far better than we did in either game against Brentford last season. I would also say that Brentford played better as well. I can't recall their passing being close to what they achieved yesterday.

I'm sure others would disagree, but IMO we played a 4-4-2 formation that sometimes stretched to 4-3-3. This was by no means rigid as Freeman tended to wander from his right side role. However, he was often needed in the centre as Brentford took advantage of their superior numbers in midfield to cut us apart with their passing ability. This is no slight on Scowen & Luongo as they held them off far more than we had a right to expect, but it exposed our limitations in playing that system.

At the back Baptiste & Robinson played well (especially in the first half) & Robinson made some great challenges. Behind them Smithies made two superb saves, with the one in the first half excellent.

We were limited in creating chances (nothing new there!), but Mackie really should have done better when Sylla found him in the penalty area. His shot should have been on target at least & I thought he should have scored. He was unlucky with his glancing header in the second half though.

For the first 20 minutes I thought the referee was on course to award the most free kicks in a match! He then had a spell of awarding nothing & this was topped with the non award of a penalty when the Brentford defender posed as a scarecrow to handle the ball. Overall, I wasn't impressed with the official.

The introduction of Wszolek gave us some width on the right & it was good to see him going past the opposition on the outside. However, Washington was our only player that tried to get into position for his cut backs.

Come added on time & Iain, Simon, Beth & myself were the only ones left in our row at the back of the Upper Loft. We gained the corner & I confidently predicted a goal. It seemed typical of Rangers to pull a goal back when it was to late to matter! Come the free kick & I said 2-2. This time it was stated with no expectation! At the full time whistle it felt like we had won & we were very worried about concedeing a third goal. That would have been a real sickener!

So, did we deserve a point? Not on the balance of play & Brentford were a far better footballing side than us. If we ignore that & look at the 100% effort of our players & a willingness to compete for every minute, then we did.

I don't think our defensive injury crises has any bearing on our results & performances as we have continually shipped goals no matter who is playing. I state this with the exception of feeling that we are better when Lynch is not in the team! Robinson & Baptiste are more than adequate for us.

Overall, we are not a great side, but we are far better than many posters (on all boards) give us credit for!
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Still feels like a win this morning. on 11:06 - Nov 28 with 2391 viewssuperhoopdownunder

Still feels like a win this morning. on 11:03 - Nov 28 by terryb

For what it's worth, this my take on last night.

Firstly, we played far better than we did in either game against Brentford last season. I would also say that Brentford played better as well. I can't recall their passing being close to what they achieved yesterday.

I'm sure others would disagree, but IMO we played a 4-4-2 formation that sometimes stretched to 4-3-3. This was by no means rigid as Freeman tended to wander from his right side role. However, he was often needed in the centre as Brentford took advantage of their superior numbers in midfield to cut us apart with their passing ability. This is no slight on Scowen & Luongo as they held them off far more than we had a right to expect, but it exposed our limitations in playing that system.

At the back Baptiste & Robinson played well (especially in the first half) & Robinson made some great challenges. Behind them Smithies made two superb saves, with the one in the first half excellent.

We were limited in creating chances (nothing new there!), but Mackie really should have done better when Sylla found him in the penalty area. His shot should have been on target at least & I thought he should have scored. He was unlucky with his glancing header in the second half though.

For the first 20 minutes I thought the referee was on course to award the most free kicks in a match! He then had a spell of awarding nothing & this was topped with the non award of a penalty when the Brentford defender posed as a scarecrow to handle the ball. Overall, I wasn't impressed with the official.

The introduction of Wszolek gave us some width on the right & it was good to see him going past the opposition on the outside. However, Washington was our only player that tried to get into position for his cut backs.

Come added on time & Iain, Simon, Beth & myself were the only ones left in our row at the back of the Upper Loft. We gained the corner & I confidently predicted a goal. It seemed typical of Rangers to pull a goal back when it was to late to matter! Come the free kick & I said 2-2. This time it was stated with no expectation! At the full time whistle it felt like we had won & we were very worried about concedeing a third goal. That would have been a real sickener!

So, did we deserve a point? Not on the balance of play & Brentford were a far better footballing side than us. If we ignore that & look at the 100% effort of our players & a willingness to compete for every minute, then we did.

I don't think our defensive injury crises has any bearing on our results & performances as we have continually shipped goals no matter who is playing. I state this with the exception of feeling that we are better when Lynch is not in the team! Robinson & Baptiste are more than adequate for us.

Overall, we are not a great side, but we are far better than many posters (on all boards) give us credit for!


Thanks Terry B
Brentford seem like they are quite a good footballing team and will keep rising up the table to perhaps the playoffs
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Still feels like a win this morning. on 11:30 - Nov 28 with 2334 viewsqueensparker

The Brentford forum makes for some fun reading this morning. It's like someone has run over their pet dog

http://www.griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128457
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Still feels like a win this morning. on 12:28 - Nov 28 with 2267 viewsQPRski

Still feels like a win this morning. on 11:03 - Nov 28 by terryb

For what it's worth, this my take on last night.

Firstly, we played far better than we did in either game against Brentford last season. I would also say that Brentford played better as well. I can't recall their passing being close to what they achieved yesterday.

I'm sure others would disagree, but IMO we played a 4-4-2 formation that sometimes stretched to 4-3-3. This was by no means rigid as Freeman tended to wander from his right side role. However, he was often needed in the centre as Brentford took advantage of their superior numbers in midfield to cut us apart with their passing ability. This is no slight on Scowen & Luongo as they held them off far more than we had a right to expect, but it exposed our limitations in playing that system.

At the back Baptiste & Robinson played well (especially in the first half) & Robinson made some great challenges. Behind them Smithies made two superb saves, with the one in the first half excellent.

We were limited in creating chances (nothing new there!), but Mackie really should have done better when Sylla found him in the penalty area. His shot should have been on target at least & I thought he should have scored. He was unlucky with his glancing header in the second half though.

For the first 20 minutes I thought the referee was on course to award the most free kicks in a match! He then had a spell of awarding nothing & this was topped with the non award of a penalty when the Brentford defender posed as a scarecrow to handle the ball. Overall, I wasn't impressed with the official.

The introduction of Wszolek gave us some width on the right & it was good to see him going past the opposition on the outside. However, Washington was our only player that tried to get into position for his cut backs.

Come added on time & Iain, Simon, Beth & myself were the only ones left in our row at the back of the Upper Loft. We gained the corner & I confidently predicted a goal. It seemed typical of Rangers to pull a goal back when it was to late to matter! Come the free kick & I said 2-2. This time it was stated with no expectation! At the full time whistle it felt like we had won & we were very worried about concedeing a third goal. That would have been a real sickener!

So, did we deserve a point? Not on the balance of play & Brentford were a far better footballing side than us. If we ignore that & look at the 100% effort of our players & a willingness to compete for every minute, then we did.

I don't think our defensive injury crises has any bearing on our results & performances as we have continually shipped goals no matter who is playing. I state this with the exception of feeling that we are better when Lynch is not in the team! Robinson & Baptiste are more than adequate for us.

Overall, we are not a great side, but we are far better than many posters (on all boards) give us credit for!


A very interesting insight Terry. Thanks for posting.

I am pleased that Iain, Simon, Beth & you stayed right to the end. Not to avoid get the wrath of Ollie, but to enjoy the moment. I hope that you did not hurt yourselves jumping for joy at the back of the Loft. It must have been a special moment and one to remember. :)
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