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Holloway's asked for 2 more transfer windows to get the job done. By my reckoning that'll be 10-12 players, to go with the half dozen this past January. In other words, more or less an entire squad. Although no doubt some of the 'must haves' from 4 months ago will be out of favour by now, likewise some of those he brings in this summer by the time Christmas rolls around.
I don't mean this to sound rude, but I think IH has ADHD. Listen to him talking, about any subject, or look at his team selections, the way players come in and out of favour, the changes of formation week to week - in games it happens within minutes of his previous changes. He can't sit still and see if something works, give it time to play out. He always has to be changing, fidgeting, trying something different. It's exhausting to watch, god knows how the players feel about it all.
Quite true.
If you haven't already read it, read the chapter on him in Living On The Volcano. You feel tired just reading it. Further on in the book there's a bit about his time at Millwall. It doesn't make for good reading. Alot of what he's doing at the moment, he did at Milwall.
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Holloway stay or go on 14:45 - May 8 with 2128 views
"Yes, man with slightly suspect Eddie Murphy online avatar, I've been following your postings on popular QPR messageboard LFW for a while now, and I've realised you're absolutely right about me. At the time I took the job at the club, or stole it really if I'm honest, I had hoped to pull the wool over the fans' eyes about my lack of ability, but thanks to you, The Mole, I've really started to appreciate just how little experience I have and that my time here has been marked by serial incompetence. I can only hope that it's OK with you if I do stay on in at least some capacity at the club, although of course if you feel otherwise, I'll make sure to have my desk clear by Monday"
"Thanks to your insightful postings, I've also now sacked all my mates, who were only here because of my agenda, and am now walking to Neil Warnock's house to apologise to him personally for never previously recognising his genius. Also, I would never tell anyone else this but between us, I fking did do the Blue Peter garden. And can I just thank you again before I go?"
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"And I actually hate this little sh.itty club because I'm proper Tottenham but they won't give me a job"
[Post edited 8 May 2017 15:29]
Scooters, Tunes, Trainers and QPR.
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Holloway stay or go on 15:44 - May 8 with 2038 views
Holloway stay or go on 10:09 - May 8 by hoof_hearted
Over 120 people have clicked and 60% say go now. Is that because we're worried about the doing the November replacement thing again or do we want someone new in now and then replace him in November?
Feck it. I'll chuck a go now vote in. Undermining the club gives us something to do over the summer.
That definitely comes into it hoof hearted.
I can't imagine that Holloway will survive a full season as manager & so I would prefer a change (if there is to be one) to be carried out now.
Equally, I can't envisage Ollie improving the side for next season. Making all these playing changes every match didn't start away to Derby. They started away to Ipswich (or at least it feels like they did).
So make the change now or live with it all through next season, relegation battle or not!
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Holloway stay or go on 18:10 - May 8 with 1911 views
I'm just about on the 'go' side, which is very unlike me. I was so optimistic a couple of months back but he's just wild and erratic. The team selections make no sense. The results are awful. He keeps throwing players under the bus - either by doing what he did to Petrasso and Goss v Sheff Wed and Brentford, or just openly saying stuff about Sylla. He's already been allowed one transfer window of half a dozen in and another half a dozen out and now he's talking about doing it again.
and on we go repeating same cycle we've done since Warnock - why would next manager be THE one?
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Holloway stay or go on 18:12 - May 8 with 1906 views
The results have been rank under IH, under JFH and under Ramsey. But are these managers actually buying the players?
We started off with a succession of signings from League One, then moved onto Championship strugglers. Where do we find ourselves? Just about staying out of League One, a struggling Championship side.
It doesn't matter how the manager perms this squad, too many are simply not good enough. We either buy players who have got out this Division before or this mess just carries on.
"We either buy players who have got out this Division before or this mess just carries on"
Nonsense. How many of Kenny, Orr, Hill, Derry, Mackie, Smith, Taarabt had been promoted from the Championship before? Only Paddy Kenny and Tommy Smith of those Warnock signed in 2010. Loads of others in that squad had never been promoted from the Championship neither (Gorkss, Connolly, Hall, Faurlin, Buzsaky etc etc).
Currently in the keep IH camp but if the club decide to get rid who is going to come in? No cash for transfers squad probably going to finish lower part of the table and another relegation fight. Can only think someone like Kenny Jacket work with lower league players and able to make us difficult to beat... think IH will get to xmas if we have another bad run he is gone all a bit demoralising
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Holloway stay or go on 21:20 - May 8 with 1707 views
Holloway stay or go on 19:44 - May 8 by CamberleyR
"We either buy players who have got out this Division before or this mess just carries on"
Nonsense. How many of Kenny, Orr, Hill, Derry, Mackie, Smith, Taarabt had been promoted from the Championship before? Only Paddy Kenny and Tommy Smith of those Warnock signed in 2010. Loads of others in that squad had never been promoted from the Championship neither (Gorkss, Connolly, Hall, Faurlin, Buzsaky etc etc).
Mackie had been relegated from the championship when we signed him
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Holloway stay or go on 22:23 - May 8 with 1606 views
Like most folks here, I like Ollie but... I've seen nothing this season that makes me think he knows what he's doing. The only team that we managed to overtake since he took over is Birmingham... and they pretty much self-sabotaged!
I can't see what playing style and system he trying to instill in the club. I don't understand his philosophy, which seems to swing between emphasising unity and publicly lambasting his players.
Now he wants change a significant number (2 windows worth) of players, when he's supposed to have been the one who could get the best out of what we already had. What guarantee do we have that he can get the team right? NONE.
It's too big a risk to keep him and let him make wholesale changes to the squad.
100% of people who drink water will die.
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Holloway stay or go on 00:24 - May 9 with 1506 views
I should start with the caveat that for those of you that haven't been paying atention I don't have the pleasure of living in England at the moment so don't go to any games and as such don't spend a penny on Rangers or even much time as I can only watch the occasional stream.
However, as a Rangers fan my view from afar on the debate about Holloways future is one of shock. I can't believe that the majority (on this poll at least) are of the opinion that Holloway should go now! After 6 months! I feel that even Ramsey was given more leeway than IH is being given.
Believe me I do understand the concern after the two in such recent succession 6 defeats in a row but you can't then not mention the 7 game run (not just the run but how well we played and IH's ability to create a team for a specific opponent plus his ingame management) and the January sales and purchases plus his bringing in or back of some of "our" younger players.
I just don't get this focusing on the negatives whilst there have been positives in what can and should have only ever been considered a transitional period from when he took over from JFH.
Even putting aside the fact that he is a Ranger (which is a pretty bloody important factor bearing in mind the non personalities and couldn't give a fcúk about Rangers managers that we've had to suffer over recent seasons) I think the bloke is deserving of a pre season and then to be given a full season.
We've reached the stage now where the majority realise that even before the new season starts he'll be cack so let's get shot now instead of doing it in November. What the bloody hell ever happened to backing one of our own and hoping that despite all recent failures it might actually work this time around. His experience should also count in his favour, the good as well as the oft brought up bad.
Like it or not we need some stability. Like it or not we may not even be able to afford to pay him and staff off of the remaining two years of their contract. Liek it or not we've got someone who wants to do well for the club as much as we do. And like it or not there is not one iota of a guarantee that the next person will do or be any better. It's The Championship. It´s Rangers.
Monk is about to sign a five year deal at Leeds. Pardew is going to Brough. My keyboard would do a better job than Zola. Crawley have recently let their manager go! Which reminds me Steve Evans anyone?!
So in summary really surprised to see such little faith in IH after a relatively short time in charge. To think there were still many people calling for stability before Ramsey and JFH got sacked after much longer than the 6 months that IH has had.
Holloway stay or go on 00:24 - May 9 by FredManRave
I should start with the caveat that for those of you that haven't been paying atention I don't have the pleasure of living in England at the moment so don't go to any games and as such don't spend a penny on Rangers or even much time as I can only watch the occasional stream.
However, as a Rangers fan my view from afar on the debate about Holloways future is one of shock. I can't believe that the majority (on this poll at least) are of the opinion that Holloway should go now! After 6 months! I feel that even Ramsey was given more leeway than IH is being given.
Believe me I do understand the concern after the two in such recent succession 6 defeats in a row but you can't then not mention the 7 game run (not just the run but how well we played and IH's ability to create a team for a specific opponent plus his ingame management) and the January sales and purchases plus his bringing in or back of some of "our" younger players.
I just don't get this focusing on the negatives whilst there have been positives in what can and should have only ever been considered a transitional period from when he took over from JFH.
Even putting aside the fact that he is a Ranger (which is a pretty bloody important factor bearing in mind the non personalities and couldn't give a fcúk about Rangers managers that we've had to suffer over recent seasons) I think the bloke is deserving of a pre season and then to be given a full season.
We've reached the stage now where the majority realise that even before the new season starts he'll be cack so let's get shot now instead of doing it in November. What the bloody hell ever happened to backing one of our own and hoping that despite all recent failures it might actually work this time around. His experience should also count in his favour, the good as well as the oft brought up bad.
Like it or not we need some stability. Like it or not we may not even be able to afford to pay him and staff off of the remaining two years of their contract. Liek it or not we've got someone who wants to do well for the club as much as we do. And like it or not there is not one iota of a guarantee that the next person will do or be any better. It's The Championship. It´s Rangers.
Monk is about to sign a five year deal at Leeds. Pardew is going to Brough. My keyboard would do a better job than Zola. Crawley have recently let their manager go! Which reminds me Steve Evans anyone?!
So in summary really surprised to see such little faith in IH after a relatively short time in charge. To think there were still many people calling for stability before Ramsey and JFH got sacked after much longer than the 6 months that IH has had.
Must Stay.
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Ramsey Championship 15-16: 5-4-6, 1.27 points per game. Hasselbaink Championship 16-17: 5-5-6, 1.25 points per game. Holloway Championship 16-17: 10-3-17, 1.10 points per game.
Both Ramsey's and Hasselbaink's ppgs are undistinguished (poor, even) lower table form, but Holloway's is genuine relegation fight. Holloway's ppg over a whole season would have given less points than Blackburn were relegated with.
Why persist with a manager who is clearly worse than both reviled previous managers? He is ridiculously inconsistent, which says that he doesn't know how to plan for a win.
He has got relegation written all over him. Stability means nothing if the bloke is not up to the job. Get rid, and to give us the best chance for success, DO IT NOW.
The last 2 times we've appointed a manager we didn't go with the one that our DOF picked, the board preferred Hasselbaink to Rowett and last time went with Holloway over Rowett although they did make an approach for Rowett which he turned down.
I believe LF's role is being undermined, IH has this jolly little fellow persona but I believe he is a devious little man.
I have been noticing quotes attributed to him like " I am putting a scouting team together" squad needs changing over the next two windows etc.
Along with Goss, Sylla, Petrasso and Henry you can add LF to that list of bus marks firmly up the butt!
I don't care how often we change managers, we just need to get it right! It hasn't harmed several clubs including or sworn enemy up the road, LF is DOF, his decision should be final on football related matters !
If it is indeed true he choose previous candidates and was undermined, that would explain the time taken to fire on each occasion?
Les, step up or step off!
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Holloway stay or go on 07:26 - May 9 with 1363 views
Ramsey Championship 15-16: 5-4-6, 1.27 points per game. Hasselbaink Championship 16-17: 5-5-6, 1.25 points per game. Holloway Championship 16-17: 10-3-17, 1.10 points per game.
Both Ramsey's and Hasselbaink's ppgs are undistinguished (poor, even) lower table form, but Holloway's is genuine relegation fight. Holloway's ppg over a whole season would have given less points than Blackburn were relegated with.
Why persist with a manager who is clearly worse than both reviled previous managers? He is ridiculously inconsistent, which says that he doesn't know how to plan for a win.
He has got relegation written all over him. Stability means nothing if the bloke is not up to the job. Get rid, and to give us the best chance for success, DO IT NOW.
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CR had somewhat better players including Austin
Just swop Austin for Washington and those stats would be bunkum
You rely on stats to much as been said before they don't tell the whole story.
Just swop Austin for Washington and those stats would be bunkum
You rely on stats to much as been said before they don't tell the whole story.
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Still in denial? Did Hasselbaink have Austin this season? Holloway had everything Hasselbaink had plus a very accomodating transfer window and still managed to come out behind.
You do know it is only the extra points earned by Hasselbaink that kept us up, don't you? The Hasselbaink-Holloway partnership was almost equal, but the extra lifting was done by JFH and it was absolutely critical.
Still in denial? Did Hasselbaink have Austin this season? Holloway had everything Hasselbaink had plus a very accomodating transfer window and still managed to come out behind.
You do know it is only the extra points earned by Hasselbaink that kept us up, don't you? The Hasselbaink-Holloway partnership was almost equal, but the extra lifting was done by JFH and it was absolutely critical.
It was you that included CR stats I made no remark about JFH stats or just saying IH v CR stats, so get off your horse.
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