| Celar 15:55 - Nov 23 with 24474 views | andrew1302 |
Has there been a worse striker in a QPR shirt? The man is absolutely useless. We have had some poor strikers but i really think he is amongst the worst. I feel sorry for him. He should not have been bought. It is lamb to the slaughter. He is probably trying his best but his best is League 2 and not his fault. Nourry and Belk or whoever are to blame for him. |  | | |  |
| (No subject) on 23:06 - Nov 23 with 2695 views | loneranger1 |
| Celar on 22:40 - Nov 23 by mart_Goblin |
We saw the moment Marti snapped with Celar today .
Being caught offside by simply being lazy enough to NOT get himself back on side after we’d humped another aimless ball forward was the final straw for MC.
He went utterly bonkers on the touch line and immediately waved for Alfie Lloyd to come back and get stripped off .
He took both of Celar and Madsen off as a bit of a statement to the DOF too. Enough is enough .
Expensive or not they are not doing it and I’ll play the youngsters .
Celar came off and kicked the dugout to pieces and whilst Madsen traipsed around the pitch after being subbed , a miracle happened…we scored.
He barely even glanced over his shoulder and showed zero emotion .
We are bottom of the league …your teammates have just scored!?!)
Nothing .
Tells you everything in my opinion . |
Ruddy 'ell, that's shocking about Madsen (but not entirely surprising).
I couldn't see Celar's reaction when he came off, but am surprised he "kicked the dugout to pieces" - really?!
I always think, as others have said, that he looks like he'd rather be anywhere else than on the pitch, and would have been happy to escape from another bad performance. Then again, I guess maybe professional pride and the realisation that he really is not good enough for this level may have finally hit him today [Post edited 23 Nov 23:06]
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| Celar on 23:11 - Nov 23 with 2640 views | DannyPaddox |
Anne Frank got the attic and we got the Celar. I’m still not sure who got the worst deal. |  | | |
| Celar on 23:27 - Nov 23 with 2552 views | Markofthegrove |
If you bring a foreign striker in, you have to bring them into a decent situation. We are not a coun in a decent situation with the squad around him to allow him to thrive and develop in this league.
If Middlesbrough had signed him, he'd have 4 or 5 goals by now. | | | |
| Celar on 23:52 - Nov 23 with 2443 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Celar on 23:27 - Nov 23 by Markofthegrove |
If you bring a foreign striker in, you have to bring them into a decent situation. We are not a coun in a decent situation with the squad around him to allow him to thrive and develop in this league.
If Middlesbrough had signed him, he'd have 4 or 5 goals by now. |
Your last paragraph - absolutely no chance. This fella is quite simply not capable of playing at this level, nor the one below in all likelihood. Lazy, disinterested, and lacking in ability. Be lucky if good enough for L2 | | | |
| Celar on 00:50 - Nov 24 with 2353 views | Bluce_Ree |
| Celar on 19:41 - Nov 23 by QPsyR |
Worst Celar since the Evil Dead |
Post of the day! |  |
| Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. |
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| Celar on 01:24 - Nov 24 with 2319 views | cuppahoop |
| Celar on 17:39 - Nov 23 by aston_hoop |
Reminds me of Tamas Priskin, who was also shit |
Even the fog moved quicker with more purpose on a freezing cold January afternoon in Peterborough than that Ipswich cast off and a 1.0 loss 😂 | | | |
| Celar on 01:26 - Nov 24 with 2270 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Celar on 23:11 - Nov 23 by DannyPaddox |
Anne Frank got the attic and we got the Celar. I’m still not sure who got the worst deal. |
Sub-Jim Davidson level of gallow/bad taste humour, but right now even that raises a rueful smile. |  |
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| Celar on 02:14 - Nov 24 with 2255 views | Match82 |
| Celar on 23:05 - Nov 23 by Monkey_Roots |
At the time, I was welcoming Celar taking the pen… the perfect way to get his tally underway, give him some confidence.
It didn’t work, the gamble didn’t pay off.
Drop him and start Alfie, at least there is passion and desire there. |
that felt like such a sliding doors moment. I just can't see a way back for him now. |  | | |
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| Celar on 02:24 - Nov 24 with 2208 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Celar on 02:14 - Nov 24 by Match82 |
that felt like such a sliding doors moment. I just can't see a way back for him now. |
Doubtless if he leaves through them, both of them will hit him on the arse on his way out. | |
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| Celar on 05:10 - Nov 24 with 2157 views | DannyPaddox |
| Celar on 01:26 - Nov 24 by stainrods_elbow |
Sub-Jim Davidson level of gallow/bad taste humour, but right now even that raises a rueful smile. |
Sub-Dim Jamiesons? Away with your woke nonsense 😆 | | | |
| Celar on 07:31 - Nov 24 with 2036 views | SimplyNico |
Presumably in the data only analysis that the club carried out, they should have looked at where the Swiss Super League stands in the UEFA coefficient rankings - https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/?year=2025. The answer is 16th, marginally better than the SPL. Relatively, from a data perspective, Celar is therefore considerably more expensive than Dykes and a very considerably worse player. | | | |
| Celar on 08:27 - Nov 24 with 1912 views | davman |
| Celar on 07:31 - Nov 24 by SimplyNico |
Presumably in the data only analysis that the club carried out, they should have looked at where the Swiss Super League stands in the UEFA coefficient rankings - https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/?year=2025. The answer is 16th, marginally better than the SPL. Relatively, from a data perspective, Celar is therefore considerably more expensive than Dykes and a very considerably worse player. |
That's data, but clearly not the data our bargain basement tool called "Football Manager" uses.
Interesting insight to the reactions of those payers being subbed. I don't actually think Madsen played badly at all yesterday; certainly signs that he and Varane are getting there..
NINETEEN games without a goal for Zan though and absolutely no sign that he is a footballer.
The data was certainly corrupt there... |  |
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| Celar on 08:45 - Nov 24 with 1844 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Celar on 08:27 - Nov 24 by davman |
That's data, but clearly not the data our bargain basement tool called "Football Manager" uses.
Interesting insight to the reactions of those payers being subbed. I don't actually think Madsen played badly at all yesterday; certainly signs that he and Varane are getting there..
NINETEEN games without a goal for Zan though and absolutely no sign that he is a footballer.
The data was certainly corrupt there... |
Handing the ball to him to take the penalty was a pub team standard level of professionalism. It’s incredible how poor this team is at everything. Keeper dives to his right early and Celar manages to completely miss a wide open goal from 8 yards out. He’s just completely hopeless. It’s like somebody off the street has blagged his way into playing #9 for a Championship football club. Bloke is fkn pony. Cifuentes cannot start this dud again and hopefully we can find a Nourry/Belk equivalent at some other poorly run club to offload him in January. 🙏🏻 |  |
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| Celar on 08:52 - Nov 24 with 1823 views | stevec |
| Celar on 22:40 - Nov 23 by mart_Goblin |
We saw the moment Marti snapped with Celar today .
Being caught offside by simply being lazy enough to NOT get himself back on side after we’d humped another aimless ball forward was the final straw for MC.
He went utterly bonkers on the touch line and immediately waved for Alfie Lloyd to come back and get stripped off .
He took both of Celar and Madsen off as a bit of a statement to the DOF too. Enough is enough .
Expensive or not they are not doing it and I’ll play the youngsters .
Celar came off and kicked the dugout to pieces and whilst Madsen traipsed around the pitch after being subbed , a miracle happened…we scored.
He barely even glanced over his shoulder and showed zero emotion .
We are bottom of the league …your teammates have just scored!?!)
Nothing .
Tells you everything in my opinion . |
Was funny that Madsen hit the first man with his corner to much groaning, the ball came straight back to him and somehow he managed to do exactly the same with his follow up cross. Immediately got dragged off and was still walking round the pitch as Saito put in a corner exactly as it should be, and we scored.
As you say, looked down the line as we celebrated and Madsen standing there was a picture to behold. |  | | |
| Celar on 09:11 - Nov 24 with 1761 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Celar on 23:05 - Nov 23 by Monkey_Roots |
At the time, I was welcoming Celar taking the pen… the perfect way to get his tally underway, give him some confidence.
It didn’t work, the gamble didn’t pay off.
Drop him and start Alfie, at least there is passion and desire there. |
Very honest of you to say that, Monkey.
I can see both sides of it. Cifuentes has said that we have three penalty takers based on practice and their track records, and that Celar is one of them. He also rightly points out that Celar is an International player.
At the time of the peno, there's no way Cifuentes can go on the pitch and give the ball to Madsen, even if he wanted to. It's up to the players to sort it out.
I can see the logic of giving the ball to Celar: if he scores it helps him and - crucially - it helps the team if our striker gets off the mark. I'm not sure I'd have personally chosen it if I was (God help us) involved with Rangers, but I'm not going to say that I was screaming blue murder either when I saw him with the ball. |  |
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| Celar on 09:14 - Nov 24 with 1728 views | dmm |
It was a cruel irony yesterday that the club celebrated Arthur Longbottom's time with us. He was a one in three striker and top scorer three years in a row between 56/57 and 58/59.
When discussing our worst strikers I always think of Mike Sheron who was an expert at spooning the ball over the bar. But just checking I see even he managed 19 goals in 63 appearances. |  | | |
| Celar on 10:26 - Nov 24 with 1552 views | connell10 |
| Celar on 23:27 - Nov 23 by Markofthegrove |
If you bring a foreign striker in, you have to bring them into a decent situation. We are not a coun in a decent situation with the squad around him to allow him to thrive and develop in this league.
If Middlesbrough had signed him, he'd have 4 or 5 goals by now. |
The Middlesbrough line.....nah mate , just nah . |  |
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| Celar on 10:35 - Nov 24 with 1489 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Celar on 09:11 - Nov 24 by BrianMcCarthy |
Very honest of you to say that, Monkey.
I can see both sides of it. Cifuentes has said that we have three penalty takers based on practice and their track records, and that Celar is one of them. He also rightly points out that Celar is an International player.
At the time of the peno, there's no way Cifuentes can go on the pitch and give the ball to Madsen, even if he wanted to. It's up to the players to sort it out.
I can see the logic of giving the ball to Celar: if he scores it helps him and - crucially - it helps the team if our striker gets off the mark. I'm not sure I'd have personally chosen it if I was (God help us) involved with Rangers, but I'm not going to say that I was screaming blue murder either when I saw him with the ball. |
Celar did take a decent penalty against Luton in the cup.
I still can't believe the booing though - he didn't mean to miss! Also, nice to see Sam and Koki commiserating with him afterwards. Good team spirit. [Post edited 24 Nov 10:35]
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| Celar on 10:49 - Nov 24 with 1436 views | Hayesender |
I remember sitting at the riverside stadium back in 2010 just before Warnock took over, watching Tamas Priskin and Marcus Bent do their worst impressions of being professional strikers, thinking to myself, "well it can't get worse than this".
Turns out it can |  |
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| Celar on 11:29 - Nov 24 with 1302 views | WadR |
Feel for him on a human level - his body language pre match and during the game is that of someone who has absolutely no confidence.
Which I think is even more reason not to give him the penalty!
Really is like playing with 10 with him on the pitch. I can forgive the fact he's low in confidence and maybe even the fact half his touches ballooned off him to opposition players if he was working hard but I'm not sure I've ever seen a QPR striker hide quite as much as him. There was a point in the first half where Varane won the ball on the left touchline in our half with only Celar ahead of him. Celar made no attempt to offer - either by going short or running in behind. He was genuinely hiding behind one of the Stoke CBs. Varane rightly gave him a bollocking for it. His pressing is half arsed, he can't jump - he looks terrified of any sort of physical contact.
I know Cannon has cost X millions but look at the way he battled for 50/50s, held the ball up, scored a beautifully taken goal. | | | |
| Celar on 11:40 - Nov 24 with 1260 views | dmm |
| Celar on 11:29 - Nov 24 by WadR |
Feel for him on a human level - his body language pre match and during the game is that of someone who has absolutely no confidence.
Which I think is even more reason not to give him the penalty!
Really is like playing with 10 with him on the pitch. I can forgive the fact he's low in confidence and maybe even the fact half his touches ballooned off him to opposition players if he was working hard but I'm not sure I've ever seen a QPR striker hide quite as much as him. There was a point in the first half where Varane won the ball on the left touchline in our half with only Celar ahead of him. Celar made no attempt to offer - either by going short or running in behind. He was genuinely hiding behind one of the Stoke CBs. Varane rightly gave him a bollocking for it. His pressing is half arsed, he can't jump - he looks terrified of any sort of physical contact.
I know Cannon has cost X millions but look at the way he battled for 50/50s, held the ball up, scored a beautifully taken goal. |
Cannon is actually on loan at Stoke from Leicester. I know loans are not free but given we paid £2m for Celar, a loan of Cannon's quality would have been a sensible use of the little money we have. | | | |
| Celar on 11:58 - Nov 24 with 1191 views | ARudd |
“Insisting he take it” would be way too impolite for Madsen. He spends his afternoons saying “after you” to all the oppo players…. | | | |
| Celar on 12:12 - Nov 24 with 1151 views | BostonR |
I think he totalled 7 touches in the whole game including the penalty miss. Marti was right to sub him and he shouldn’t start while Lloyd is fit and willing to run about for the cause. Hopefully, Celar will get a loan back to Switzerland at Xmas - Marti is done with him as are the fans. |  | | |
| Celar on 13:14 - Nov 24 with 3007 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
I feel sorry for him which is why we shouldn't be booing him. Ignoring the merits or failings of the Swiss League, the biggest problem is his lack of physicality. Anyone can miss a penalty but from that first game against West Brom, we've seen that he is not a physical old school number nine, which is what we need playing with one up top. That's clearly not his fault and is down to whoever recruited him to play in this system. And the change when Alfie came on and started roughing up their defenders was night and day. | | | |
| Celar on 13:21 - Nov 24 with 2948 views | gazza1 |
Didn't make the game yesterday thanks to TfL but watched the 2nd half on a link when I eventually got home. I have also seen him several times when I have been able to get to the ground.
I do not know why we are making excuses about playing up front on his own, not suited to the physicality and it goes on!!!! The bottom line is he missed a penalty yesterday, that is 100% his fault but it happens, however much of his other play is or has been very limited indeed, pretty poor actually. I doubt he will ever be good enough to play Championship football in this country. | | | |
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