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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað 14:46 - Nov 2 with 22305 viewsMyke

SAFCin peace seems like a reasonable bloke with well-balanced views, but sorry not having a supporter from another club start our match thread. We have feck all left without losing that.
So dodgy lineup, no JcS again! And Kaito on the bench along with Shephard. But no point starting a match thread and being negative. So with Clive's November optimism still ringing in my ears - 1-0 Smyth to score. Cmon you Rrrrŕrsss
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:02 - Nov 2 with 2773 viewsjoolsyp

Missed opportunity for three points perhaps but with a weakened side against the top team in the division I'll take that point (and a clean sheet) all day long. We looked much more solid in midfield with Varane (my MoM) and Morgan in there. Morgan faded badly second half as you'd expect but this kid has bags of potential and even though he gave away some sloppy passes in the second half at least he was looking for a forward ball (unlike Varane). Celar's best half for us in the second half, if only that shot had crept in, you can see he's a confidence player.

If (big if) we can get 3 points against Middlesborough on Tuesday then that's been a good 3 games. They had a poor result at home today so I'm not sure how Tuesday will go.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:06 - Nov 2 with 2663 viewsMyke

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 16:57 - Nov 2 by DylanP

That was dire. Absolutely pathetic performance. Hopeless


Seriously? We are 2nd bottom. Haven't won at home this season. They are TOP. Second clean sheet in a row. Let's get real here. Decent point
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:07 - Nov 2 with 2634 viewsCamberleyR

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 16:53 - Nov 2 by Malintabuk

The days of 10 V 11 and expectation to win are virtually over. When you can send on 5 subs you can change half the team and keep it fresh... as long as you do what Sunderland and Plymouth do... 2 banks of 4 keep it tight...
So our capitulation at Blackburn p!sses me off more than us winning this...
But we have never looked remotely dangerous


Plymouth didn't do so brilliantly last time they went down to ten at Cardiff two weeks ago. They were 2-0 down and ended up losing 5-0. I've no data to back it up but I think it makes a difference if the side that has 11 is leading at the time.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:08 - Nov 2 with 2595 viewsstainrods_elbow

Will be interesting to see how honest Marti picks the bones out of that!

I guess many of us might have taken a point before the game, but it has to be 2 points dropped - and badly dropped - in the circumstances. To be honest, though we had pretty much all of the ball for that last 35 minutes, we were probably even less effective with it than against 11. Ponderous, slow, and uninspired just about covers it. Apart from Dunne's header straight at him, their keeper didn't have to make a save. Sunderland should have been one up at least from the first half, so we rode our luck more than they did.

Even though we competed a lot better and had a much more credible physical shape and strength, I just don't see where the goals are coming from in this team to pull away from the basement. The lack of real quality throughout the side is alarming.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:09 - Nov 2 with 2586 viewsCamberleyR

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 16:58 - Nov 2 by Rs_Holy

well played ... good point ... we move on


And a second successive clean sheet as well.

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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:13 - Nov 2 with 2474 viewsDaBurgh

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:01 - Nov 2 by Damo1962

We haven't looked dangerous all season. Given our propensity for losing to teams we should have a chance of beating...means we ain't getting out of the bottom three any time soon. I've stopped watching us TBH, as we are eye meltingly bad. Stopping two of the better teams in this turgid league from scoring against us in consecutive games...is the only positive in a bleak season so far. I wonder will we actually win a home game before 2025 ?🤔


I guess you'll never know since you're not watching TBH.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:15 - Nov 2 with 2413 viewseghamranger

Decent point, clean sheet, players hopefully back from injuries soon, we were expecting to lose, so not a bad afternoon

Not looking to playing Watford though
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:18 - Nov 2 with 2350 viewscorse

Ok. Its a point instead of the hammering i expected. Good.
But we could have played till sunday morning and against 8 men and still not shown any decent effort to score one goal.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:24 - Nov 2 with 2228 viewsNed_Kennedys

Thought Celar had his best game so far but our distribution once again was very poor.
Would’ve put Saito on a lot earlier. Chair off the pace again.
Good defensive performance but it’s a missed opportunity to win at home as Sunderland weren’t all that even before the sending off.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:31 - Nov 2 with 2125 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Why did Bellingham go off like he'd scored a hat-trick? You were sent off, mate - walk off briskly with your head bowed.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:43 - Nov 2 with 2006 viewsManinBlack

Well another clean sheet against a top team is something to behold as a positive.

Trouble is it's another home game we haven't won and another game where we couldn't beat Sunderland which started when they knocked us out of the League cup as a league 1 side. We should have won in Sunderland last season but failed to score against a team on the beach and we just needed a goal today against 10 men but we were even more inept in front of goal.

If we continue the rest of the season winning one in 12 we will be relegated with just 4 wins all season reminiscent of our first ever season in division 1. I just cannot see a goal in us and by the next window it may be too late.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:45 - Nov 2 with 1990 viewsMatch82

Quite the variance in opinions after that! Thought we more than held our own first half against a side better and considerably more on form than we were. Little disappointing that we couldn't create and put away chances when they went down to 10 but that feels very on brand for us.

We'd have taken a point I think before the game started so can't be too down about it
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:56 - Nov 2 with 1885 viewsRangersDave

ok we got a point, but against 10 men that was always a good possibility.

I thought we were crap, there, i'll say it! Crap.

No striker to speak of, Chair may had been home in his, he isnt the player he was, thats for sure.

Why , with a spare player on the pitch do we cross, cross, back, diagonal, back, diagonal, cross, cross, lose the bloody ball???

Toblerone footy at its most boringest!

We were never going to win that match in a month of sundays. Slow, ineffectual, boring, staid, out of ideas, not good enough, no real strikers

Sorry, i know its a point, but we've been missing the point all season. second worst goals for all season, and we are still second from bottom with 10 points.

Feck me, Watford beat Shef Wed 6-2 away from home, and we cannot score 1 sodding goal or in fact look like we can, in 30 minutes of having an extra player.

Bunchaklunts!

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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:59 - Nov 2 with 1864 viewsRangersDave

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 14:50 - Nov 2 by strikerace

We have Celar out there today, what more do we need?


My dislexia had me hoping there, i thought you said we are having a 'Clear' out today. My hopes were thus rather high.

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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:07 - Nov 2 with 1784 viewsStanisgod

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:31 - Nov 2 by Wegerles_Stairs

Why did Bellingham go off like he'd scored a hat-trick? You were sent off, mate - walk off briskly with your head bowed.


Billy Big blox, thinks because he has a brother 10 times better than him you're supposed to stand and admire him. Did nothing before the sending off.

It's being so happy that keeps me going.

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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:07 - Nov 2 with 1780 viewsRangersw12

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:01 - Nov 2 by Damo1962

We haven't looked dangerous all season. Given our propensity for losing to teams we should have a chance of beating...means we ain't getting out of the bottom three any time soon. I've stopped watching us TBH, as we are eye meltingly bad. Stopping two of the better teams in this turgid league from scoring against us in consecutive games...is the only positive in a bleak season so far. I wonder will we actually win a home game before 2025 ?🤔


If you can't even be bothered to watch the games then what do you actually get out of supporting a club like Rangers !?
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:10 - Nov 2 with 1760 viewsQuillPenRiot

I’ll totally take that result, definitely moving in the right direction - build from the back up, solid defense, solid defensive midfield, some decent play up the wings
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:12 - Nov 2 with 1742 viewsLogman

Two points dropped today. Again.

Sunderland not nearly as expansive as I was imagining and nothing too much to be scared of.

I have no idea why he didn't throw another striker on when they went down to ten. Sunderland defended our approach play pretty well and then it was 3 against 1 or 4 against 2 when we did get the ball into the box.

Poor from Marti. Plenty of options to switch to 2 strikers.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:12 - Nov 2 with 1740 viewsjoe90

Much better performance and we were the better team agains the divisions top side. Obviously let down by our inability to score, but at least we’re not conceding. I thought Madsen had his best game and looks a lot better playing higher up the pitch. I think we’re slowly moving in the right direction but desperately need goals.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:13 - Nov 2 with 1729 viewsGus_iom

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:07 - Nov 2 by Stanisgod

Billy Big blox, thinks because he has a brother 10 times better than him you're supposed to stand and admire him. Did nothing before the sending off.


Clear red, but a mis-timed tackle, no malice. Showed concern for Celar, apologised.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:15 - Nov 2 with 1709 viewsrbee

RangersDave

'I thought we were crap, there, i'll say it! Crap.'

The second half performance was disappointing as we really didn't look like scoring a winner but overall if that performance was crap then keep that Sh1t coming!
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:23 - Nov 2 with 1645 viewsMalintabuk

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:07 - Nov 2 by CamberleyR

Plymouth didn't do so brilliantly last time they went down to ten at Cardiff two weeks ago. They were 2-0 down and ended up losing 5-0. I've no data to back it up but I think it makes a difference if the side that has 11 is leading at the time.
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I guess it is slightly different if you are already 2-0 down. Be an interesting stat though. But it does seem a lot more sides hold out now, with the advent of more subs.
Either way we are still toothless
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:46 - Nov 2 with 1510 viewsderbyhoop

For a 0-0 draw it was a decent game. But we are toothless. No pace, nobody smashing the CBs and the only support from midfield involves 25 yard efforts from difficult set ups.

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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 19:07 - Nov 2 with 1376 viewsVancouverHoop

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 18:46 - Nov 2 by derbyhoop

For a 0-0 draw it was a decent game. But we are toothless. No pace, nobody smashing the CBs and the only support from midfield involves 25 yard efforts from difficult set ups.


Totally with you on lack of pace. I think it's our biggest collective flaw. We're always looking for a player to pass to, instead of passing to where you know he's going to be. We did the latter first half against Hull and came up against an in-form keeper, since then we've gone back into our shell. It's probably a confidence thing.
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No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 19:27 - Nov 2 with 1286 viewsdavman

No disrespect but... Sunderland match threað on 17:02 - Nov 2 by Rangersw12

Varane and Morgan excellent in the middle plus Field was decent at CB

Toothless upfront though


This really.

Loads of negativity on here, but I just don't feel that. We have competed over the last three games, which is massive compared to the three performances before that which were utterly dire.

Yes its a low bar and yes that starting XI and bench were as weak as anything Ainsworth was forced to put out, BUT Varane and Madsen showed that there is something there - both good today.

Celar met the bare minimum for once and was running about a bit although his first half miss was diabolical.

Loads of injuries and two points in two against two of the top three...

Not the worst week...

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