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Ok I have been waiting for a pre match thread to start rather than jump onto other threads not necessarily linked to the game, so I hope you don’t mind me starting this one.
I will start with this link to an analysis of how Sunderland played against Oxford, which I hope gives you an idea of how we try to play. For balance I will post one about how we lost to Plymouth when I find it.
So how are we, Sunderland fans feeling? Well as you might expect, five points clear at the top and having our best start to a season since 1892, yes 1892, we are a very happy bunch of campers!
We always seem to come to your place in good form and do well, while you lot come up north a take a point off us. Obviously I am hoping that the first part of that pattern continues on Saturday.
I posted this on the other thread but will add it here as well, it is a podcast, What The Falk, which previews the game with Clive from Loft for Words.
Listening to that it would appear that your new owners have looked at what we have done with recruitment and tried to do the same. The difference would appear to be our 26 year old is the owner of the club and he has appointed people who know how to run a football club , while your owners have appointed a 26 year old, with little or no football experience to run your recruitment.
The result is at our end we have recruited very well and at very little cost. The team we started with against Oxford cost less than £6m to assemble, if we were to sell them now the value would be over £100m by some estimates, Jobe and Rigg making up the bulk of that.
I will leave you to comment on how your data based recruitment has gone.
We continue to field the youngest starting eleven in the division most weeks and this has led to a number of commentators saying will will fall away due to inexperience, that may be the case, but when you look at players like Dan Neil with almost 100 championship appearances and even Jobe with 50, they may be young but they are not inexperienced. What’s more a lot of the team have been playing together three years and have a good understanding with each other.
So what has changed since last season, in short we have a new manager who enjoys working with intelligent young players who can adapt to different playing patterns in game, resulting in a fluid formation with each player well drilled in what is expected and wonder of wonders we actually have strikers! Last season we played without a striker, I think the so called strikers managed about two goals between them, I am not kidding with that stat either. This often meant we had no one willing to get into the box and when we got forward the wide players had no one to cross to, so took on the shot, this obviously worked well for Jack Clarke. It did mean we were over reliant on Clarke as our only attacking outlet at times. This season we have options up top and players who know when and where to make runs into the box, it is almost like we have filled a hole in the team.
So what has changed in terms of personnel? Not much really. We lost Clarke, but we had his replacement already on the books, in Mundle, who has started very well with four goals already, he is bigger and stronger than Clarke and will run at your right back every chance he gets, we already have his replacement coming through in a young lad called Tommy Watson, and his replacement appears to be developing nicely in the under 18’s a kid called Walsh, but that is the way the director of football is trying to develop the squad.
In terms of new signings in the starting eleven, you will see Wilson Isidor starting up top , four goals in six starts and some beautiful goals as well. He is on loan from St Petersburg with a commitment to buy if we go up and an option to buy if we don’t. He looks like the solution to our striker issues and this has changed the way we play and has increased the threat we cause to other teams. The only other one likely to start is Chris Metham, on loan from Bournemouth, he came into the team when Dan Ballard was injured and has formed a very good partnership with our very own little shithouse Luke ONien , a player you love to have in your team but hate if he plays against you. Other than that the other nine were on our books last season.
The key to how we play is centred on an intelligent press, not all out pressing which can result in gaps in midfield if the press fails, but pressing at key points and in numbers, basically setting traps for the other team. Once the press has won the ball we transition very quickly into attacking positions. Out of possession we hold our formation very tight in the middle of the park, giving up space wide on either side, allowing the other teams wide players some space just inside our own half before the wider of the midfield players on that side and the full back double up on the player in possession with a third and sometimes a forth midfielder or defender closing off any outlet.
We sometimes forget that the average age of the three in the middle is only 19, but in Jobe we have a player who is bossing games like he is a mature experienced player, his ceiling is very high, then you have the 17 year old Chris Rigg, who commentators are saying is possibly even better than Jobe.
If that all sounds too good to be true it might be and like all football fans we see games through rose tinted spectacles when things are going well and just now they are going very well, so my specs might well be very tinted.
But we have lost two games and been challenged in others so how have teams done this? Against Plymouth in the second half they played at a very high intensity and forced mistakes, a penalty and an own goal leading to two of their three goals and against Watford having got back into the game Dan Neil gave away a needless penalty . So running at us in the box has forced errors and we can be susceptible to the odd brain fart .
I do think you have some quality in your squad and a decent manager and your position is false, there are teams much worse than you in this league and you will not go down, but what do you think?
I will find the tactical analysis of at least one off the two defeats, so you can so what we did wrong and post those later.
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QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 13:07 - Nov 1 with 2767 views
QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 12:49 - Nov 1 by derbyhoop
I remember pre-season predictions, including Gab Sutton's view that Sunderland would win the League. I was highly sceptical, as was our esteemed, cheap date, editor.
Sunderland looked really good in the early stages of last season before falling away quite badly. Was that all due to managerial upheaval? Or a young side running out of steam?
Well, the youngsters from last season, have got more experience under their belts; Our struggles have been documented already. Injuries to key players like JCS, Chair and Colback (don't laugh SAFCinpeace) on top of trying to integrate a host of new signings with no Championship experience. Now add the absences of Frey and Paal plus doubts over Dembele and Fox and it doesn't seem promising.
Its hard to see this as anything but an away win. However, it would be so QPR to turn out a best performance of the season and finish with the 3 points.
Given his last performance, i'm not sure we are that worried about doubts over Fox
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QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 14:06 - Nov 1 with 2582 views
QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 09:56 - Nov 1 by Padulas_Shampoo
More probable than possible? What on earth have you been smoking Nump?
SkyBet have us at 13/5. Quite astounding for a home league win. Nowhere near long enough to tempt me though. You ought to get your mortgage on it at those prices mate!
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If you say it first, it's meant to happen, right ...
Or so these new age self help gurus seem to suggest....
Apparently if you think positive but there will be that one spot left in the car park, hey ho, it appears exactly as you arrive.
No, that one didn't work for me either !!!
I know it's nuts but I get more positive pre match Sunderland than I would be against Portsmouth...
QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 14:06 - Nov 1 by numptydumpty
If you say it first, it's meant to happen, right ...
Or so these new age self help gurus seem to suggest....
Apparently if you think positive but there will be that one spot left in the car park, hey ho, it appears exactly as you arrive.
No, that one didn't work for me either !!!
I know it's nuts but I get more positive pre match Sunderland than I would be against Portsmouth...
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In which case I think Celar will get a hat trick, Madsen will play like Patrick Vieira and Sunderland won't ever get the ball over the half way line on the way to a 9-0 Rangers demolition.
Why haven't we thought of this before?!
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QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 14:19 - Nov 1 with 2558 views
QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 14:11 - Nov 1 by Padulas_Shampoo
In which case I think Celar will get a hat trick, Madsen will play like Patrick Vieira and Sunderland won't ever get the ball over the half way line on the way to a 9-0 Rangers demolition.
Why haven't we thought of this before?!
But what happens if the other teams supporters also have positive thoughts?
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QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 16:07 - Nov 1 with 2312 views
QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 19:56 - Nov 1 by NoDiddley
Just interested, but do you go on every other teams forum you play, or is it just us unfortunate souls?
I try to pop onto most boards to see what is being said and if they are willing to have a sensible discussion I will join in. I have always been made to feel welcome on here so I keep popping in before our games. Other clubs are not as welcoming as you lot.
In the return game up here I am always happy to give advice on pbs parking and anything else you might want to know.
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QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 21:25 - Nov 1 with 1745 views
QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 21:46 - Nov 1 by Mick_S
Same.
I have noticed that the earlier someone starts the match thread the less chance we seem to have of winning. Can we go back to starting them an hour before KO.
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QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 22:15 - Nov 1 with 1617 views
QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 22:02 - Nov 1 by ozexile
I have noticed that the earlier someone starts the match thread the less chance we seem to have of winning. Can we go back to starting them an hour before KO.
Bring back dial up - day of the match with the only stipulation being a capital 'M' and a capital 'T'.
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QPR Vs Sunderland pre match chat on 08:30 - Nov 2 with 1389 views
My mate who’s a Sunderland fan just told me their star player Rigg is out with a heart issue?! Said they have an equally good player called Brown who will take his place, so that’s the first goal scorer sorted.
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