| The Pound 13:57 - Sep 24 with 98516 views | Stanmiguel |
Well, the money markets didn't like the mini budget.
I met Liz Truss in a hotel in Monmouth a few years ago.
She said her solution to pensioner poverty would be to feed them on Pedigree Chum.
Not only would this save a lot of money, it would give them shiny coats and a nice cold nose. |  | | |  |
| The Pound on 09:51 - Oct 4 with 2219 views | Esox_Lucius |
| The Pound on 21:15 - Oct 3 by Sakura |
I agree we need to develop our own fossil fuel projects where possible. Truss' licensing round a good start
You have hit on a core point of the green lobby on some of your nuclear criticisms. Impose as many regulations as possible to make it expensive as possible or impose negatives on alternatives. Restrict their funding access while encouraging and subsiding alternatives as much as possible
Of course France did alter this when it was needed...Aug 8 (Reuters) - "France's nuclear power regulator has extended temporary waivers allowing five power stations to continue discharging hot water into rivers"
The last time UK built a reservoir was in 1991 so maybe it's about time we did that. Rain is not something we are short of
Labour say 70% will be wind and solar. But they will need to have ready 100% of energy at any one time from not being wind or solar in case it is dark or too windy or not windy enough then we have no wind power. If it's not sunny then we don't have solar power as the grid can't rely on battery power there. Not even remotely close
For Essox, Vestas are the largest wind turbine manufacturer in the world. They are a Danish company but they have huge operations in China. Production will occur where there is cheap energy. The subsidised coal powered plants of China are more appealing
Also to really think about energy security you need to think about the rare Earth minerals needed. Same when you consider environmental impacts as it's a massive impact in extracting those minerals
Copper has many uses for society. If we try to expand the need for it with wind power to that extent the prices will rocket. As will the other rare Earth minerals that must be sourced abroad. Like the tungsten carbide drill bits needed for the blast holes through hard rock. Predominately made in China where they will rely on coal power stations for such an energy intensive process.
Consider to the ammonium nitrate needed for blasting in copper mining is also needed through fossil fuels. So saying Denmark are the leader. Consider the chain and where the work is actually done. The copper is just one aspect
The out of sight out of mind of environmental damage related to solar and wind. The lack of understanding of the availability of the rare Earth minerals needed and what Can and will happen to their prices as the supply demand trend continues
Particularly useful is the Resolution mine in Arizona example. This being one of the largest undeveloped copper projects in the world and of course it's being protested to not be developed by Green movement. Pretty funny really. As over their that would make the green industry more viable and give more value to the energy security argument
Instead they are suppressing development in countries with more strict environmental controls and instead let it get mined in countries that don't have regulatory protections in place like the US does
This all links back into the pound as we don't have energy security in this country. The Lib Dems particularly to blame there for preventing fracking and stopping new nuclear that would be online by now. Also Tory's push to try and get green leaning voters. So we need to buy a product priced in dollars buy printing around £130 billion this year potentially. That increase in money supply for that purpose devalues our currency
The well intentioned confusion I see on here is because people mix this up with being an electricity crisis and it's not it's an energy crisis. Natural gas is used at cogeneration plants to at industrial chemcial facilities (look at Bayers problems in Germany), it's used to make fertiliser (our last plant in country recently shut down) it's used
Payback period of 6 weeks for nuclear and 4 years for solar. The Americans have just blown up Nordsteam 1 and 2 not that you see potentially the biggest story of the year getting coverage much over in our MSM
Also, why don't the environmentalists push for a hydrogen economy around nuclear. I have my suspicions around who discourages that.
We could use hydrogen combustion engines to power our vehicles. Start with water use the electriliser powered by a nuclear power plant and get rid of vehicle related CO2 emissions. The technology for this exists. We use internal combustion engines to burn that hydrogen back to water. So we don't need to extract all these precious metals out of the ground and the harmful processes that entails
But big business and aims of centralised control can't work if we do that
(BBC Panorma tonight on the topic of how green our renewable really are) [Post edited 3 Oct 2022 21:17]
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You steadfastly choose to ignore wave power, it doesn't need any drilling or carbide tooling and all all the other smokescreens you keep throwing up against Green energy. You overlook the disposal costs of nuclear power, the mineral cost and destruction impact of fossil fuel mining. Green energy IS the best option for the planet long term. |  |
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| The Pound on 10:14 - Oct 4 with 2172 views | essextaxiboy |
| The Pound on 09:38 - Oct 4 by slmrstid |
I'm still young enough for the pensions to recover, its people at my Dad's age that are really getting hammered that are much more worthy of sympathy! Its those its most unfair for. |
I have run my own pension funds for years , its really important to hold a years worth in cash so that if any fckwits go rogue , at home or abroad you can batten down the hatches and not have to sell anything . |  | | |
| The Pound on 10:38 - Oct 4 with 2127 views | BklynRanger |
| The Pound on 08:53 - Oct 4 by slmrstid |
I'm with you Baz, pretty obvious Sakura is Russian Bot and whether he likes it or not I also think he's Sheffield in disguise.
If that's wrong its wrong but the writing styles and tone are virtually identical, and I'm yet to see Sakura post about QPR whilst Sheffield does quite a bit.
They may not like it, they may deny it, they may be right in not being the same, but thats the way it goes when you start to build a reputation for yourself, and unless I see definitive proof otherwise I also think the same as you that they are one and the same.
And its annoying, because I read these threads out of interest and curiosity, and I see some of the same posters popping up to agree with each other, or upvote each other, and can't be entirely sure that actually its not the same person trying to back themselves up, which makes the entire thing untrustworthy. Which I know has been done on here before so it immediately makes me cynical.
In other news my pensions and ISAs are still tanking so there's something to (not) enjoy. [Post edited 4 Oct 2022 8:54]
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BucksRanger up-voted me on Sunday so on that basis alone (but also because he writes in a different style) he isn't a bot at all, and is a good bloke.
If anyone else wants to up-vote me on anything I will include them in this good bloke category - I really am that shallow. [Post edited 4 Oct 2022 10:39]
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| The Pound on 10:42 - Oct 4 with 2117 views | essextaxiboy |
| The Pound on 10:38 - Oct 4 by BklynRanger |
BucksRanger up-voted me on Sunday so on that basis alone (but also because he writes in a different style) he isn't a bot at all, and is a good bloke.
If anyone else wants to up-vote me on anything I will include them in this good bloke category - I really am that shallow. [Post edited 4 Oct 2022 10:39]
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As a non tech person , can admin see if 2 posters are coming through the same IP ? (although they could be family members I spose ) | | | |
| The Pound on 10:45 - Oct 4 with 2065 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Pound on 10:38 - Oct 4 by BklynRanger |
BucksRanger up-voted me on Sunday so on that basis alone (but also because he writes in a different style) he isn't a bot at all, and is a good bloke.
If anyone else wants to up-vote me on anything I will include them in this good bloke category - I really am that shallow. [Post edited 4 Oct 2022 10:39]
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For the record I don’t think Bucks is playing silly fckers either.
As Essex says easily checked, and it’s been done before. Ultimately it’s up to Clive I guess. I’m going to take me own advice and ignore instead. [Post edited 4 Oct 2022 10:47]
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| The Pound on 10:50 - Oct 4 with 2101 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| The Pound on 10:38 - Oct 4 by BklynRanger |
BucksRanger up-voted me on Sunday so on that basis alone (but also because he writes in a different style) he isn't a bot at all, and is a good bloke.
If anyone else wants to up-vote me on anything I will include them in this good bloke category - I really am that shallow. [Post edited 4 Oct 2022 10:39]
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| The Pound on 10:53 - Oct 4 with 2090 views | BklynRanger |
CroydonCaptJack is a good bloke and The Clash were a fine beat combo (threw in a bit extra there) | | | |
| The Pound on 11:05 - Oct 4 with 2050 views | ted_hendrix |
| The Pound on 10:38 - Oct 4 by BklynRanger |
BucksRanger up-voted me on Sunday so on that basis alone (but also because he writes in a different style) he isn't a bot at all, and is a good bloke.
If anyone else wants to up-vote me on anything I will include them in this good bloke category - I really am that shallow. [Post edited 4 Oct 2022 10:39]
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| The Pound on 11:15 - Oct 4 with 2026 views | BklynRanger |
| The Pound on 11:05 - Oct 4 by ted_hendrix |
I think I'm In love, will you marry me? |
I will not but I am happy to report you are a good bloke.
Elnombre is also a good bloke in case anyone was wondering. | | | |
| The Pound on 11:48 - Oct 4 with 1988 views | JimmyR |
| The Pound on 08:21 - Oct 4 by distortR |
Depending on which behavioural analysis you read, it may actually have been cost neutral, but as you say, politically and morally was very wrong.
My son is an economist, he's not against this budget per se, depending on the details on how it's all financed etc.
He has a problem with the energy price cap, destroying price signals, enabling people - particularly affluent households who use the most energy/head - to carry on regardless,and making the spectre of black-outs more likely. He would have preferred targeted help for those most in need.
An aside from me, we all need somewhere to live and the means to heat/light that place, why are high energy prices a cause for national concern and government bail-outs, but high house prices something to celebrate? |
I agree, what you have described has been dubbed Rentier Capitalism, there’s a good book on it called the trouble with markets. Basically the trouble is, turns out, they don’t work efficiently if the top5/10% hold all the assets and are able to influence policy/regulations/rules, distort the market if their favour basically
If you are earning 100-125k then you can get your personal allowance back by contributing the 25k over 100k into a pension and get 40% tax relief on it plus your 12.5 PA back, this is tax relief effectively of 60%. So as you say could well be cost neutral on HRT
But benefits/state pensions are almost certainly going to have to be cut to get anywhere near the tax cuts proposed, those in recipient of these benefits tend to spend them. So this will reduce aggregate demand at a time when aggregate supply has already taken a hit due to supply chain/covid.
Releasing all this info and saying we will give you the specifics of saving 60/70bn in November & no we won’t release the OBR report is unbelievable really | | | |
| The Pound on 11:51 - Oct 4 with 1972 views | SheffieldHoop |
| The Pound on 09:34 - Oct 4 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Absolutely.
Plenty of people disagree here, and it sometimes turns obnoxious (I’m as guilty as any), but it’s dishonest / cowardly to do it with multiple accounts.
Sorry to hear about the pension situation. Life is wholly unfair. |
Hahaha what an obsessed weirdo - Get a life mate.
"Yeah I know we keep losing all these debates to far more intelligent people with far more convincing arguments, but hear me out, I think it's 1 guy behind it all, and he's definitely wrong, he's just good at giving the impression he's right, with all those sock puppets."
Enough people from enough sides of the politics on here know precisely who I am, how and where they can find me - and I somehow suspect, you do as well - So I'm not going to waste my time defending myself on here. |  |
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| The Pound on 11:56 - Oct 4 with 1978 views | JimmyR |
| The Pound on 08:53 - Oct 4 by slmrstid |
I'm with you Baz, pretty obvious Sakura is Russian Bot and whether he likes it or not I also think he's Sheffield in disguise.
If that's wrong its wrong but the writing styles and tone are virtually identical, and I'm yet to see Sakura post about QPR whilst Sheffield does quite a bit.
They may not like it, they may deny it, they may be right in not being the same, but thats the way it goes when you start to build a reputation for yourself, and unless I see definitive proof otherwise I also think the same as you that they are one and the same.
And its annoying, because I read these threads out of interest and curiosity, and I see some of the same posters popping up to agree with each other, or upvote each other, and can't be entirely sure that actually its not the same person trying to back themselves up, which makes the entire thing untrustworthy. Which I know has been done on here before so it immediately makes me cynical.
In other news my pensions and ISAs are still tanking so there's something to (not) enjoy. [Post edited 4 Oct 2022 8:54]
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It does make it difficult to have a coherent conversation with Radom gibberish being gushed out all over the shop
Giving the timings & immediate response to such bile it wouldn’t surprise me at all if someone has 2/3 accounts. But I suppose it’s up to them how they want to spend their time
Anyway, I’m off to take my ball home and do a big massive sh!te in the crayon pot | | | |
| The Pound on 12:15 - Oct 4 with 1897 views | Northernr |
We do run IP checks regularly (daily at the moment) and if people are found with multiple accounts, they're given the choice which one to keep and the rest are deleted. I don't believe that is the case on this thread. If it is, and said person is now sitting at home chuckling to themselves at getting one over on the moderator of a QPR message board, then congratulations you win the prize of having an even sadder existence than m own.
Sakura had a ban with a previous account, in my opinion he's served that ban. You may not agree with him, he may infuriate you with his posting style, but there's nothing on this thread from him that makes me change my mind on that.
Last week we had a poster on here refer to those on the other side politically as "retards", which I thought was a particular low point for this board. Now we've got these weird message board witch trials about who's posting under multiple accounts...
1 - They're just people who hold a different opinion to you
2 - We're all QPR fans
3 - We're all grown ups
Now, thread stays on topic, or thread gets locked. |  | | |
| The Pound on 12:31 - Oct 4 with 1794 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Pound on 12:15 - Oct 4 by Northernr |
We do run IP checks regularly (daily at the moment) and if people are found with multiple accounts, they're given the choice which one to keep and the rest are deleted. I don't believe that is the case on this thread. If it is, and said person is now sitting at home chuckling to themselves at getting one over on the moderator of a QPR message board, then congratulations you win the prize of having an even sadder existence than m own.
Sakura had a ban with a previous account, in my opinion he's served that ban. You may not agree with him, he may infuriate you with his posting style, but there's nothing on this thread from him that makes me change my mind on that.
Last week we had a poster on here refer to those on the other side politically as "retards", which I thought was a particular low point for this board. Now we've got these weird message board witch trials about who's posting under multiple accounts...
1 - They're just people who hold a different opinion to you
2 - We're all QPR fans
3 - We're all grown ups
Now, thread stays on topic, or thread gets locked. |
Like I say, your forum but that you've even let one back after multiple accounts is ridiculous.
I might not get the combination of individuals right, but I'm not swallowing it that individuals on this forum and this thread don't hold multiple accounts to back each other up.
Ask Sheen, LBlock, PaulParker, Essex, Discodroids or anyone who I disagree with always or occasionaly but act in good faith what they think.
I know he's your mate but he's making you look a tit. | | | |
| The Pound on 12:36 - Oct 4 with 1801 views | traininvain |
| The Pound on 12:31 - Oct 4 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Like I say, your forum but that you've even let one back after multiple accounts is ridiculous.
I might not get the combination of individuals right, but I'm not swallowing it that individuals on this forum and this thread don't hold multiple accounts to back each other up.
Ask Sheen, LBlock, PaulParker, Essex, Discodroids or anyone who I disagree with always or occasionaly but act in good faith what they think.
I know he's your mate but he's making you look a tit. |
I might be wrong but I think Clive’s referring to Sakura being the artist formerly known as Russian_bot but not Sheffield Hoop as you’ve suggested.
It’s all getting a bit confusing. I’m off for a lie down. |  | | |
| The Pound on 12:42 - Oct 4 with 1760 views | SheffieldHoop |
| The Pound on 12:31 - Oct 4 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Like I say, your forum but that you've even let one back after multiple accounts is ridiculous.
I might not get the combination of individuals right, but I'm not swallowing it that individuals on this forum and this thread don't hold multiple accounts to back each other up.
Ask Sheen, LBlock, PaulParker, Essex, Discodroids or anyone who I disagree with always or occasionaly but act in good faith what they think.
I know he's your mate but he's making you look a tit. |
IMO the only tit around here is you. | |
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| The Pound on 13:26 - Oct 4 with 1662 views | PunteR |
These types of threads always end up like this. |  |
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| The Pound on 13:33 - Oct 4 with 1642 views | BklynRanger |
| The Pound on 13:26 - Oct 4 by PunteR |
These types of threads always end up like this. |
Can't argue with that.
If only we could take a leaf out of the books of slmrstid and peterlunk_dk (not sure if we know a favourite cheese...)? Good blokes both. | | | |
| The Pound on 13:42 - Oct 4 with 1603 views | Sharpy36 |
| The Pound on 13:26 - Oct 4 by PunteR |
These types of threads always end up like this. |
Normally when one side of the argument start to lose or run out of mud to sling at that opposing view point. It happens on all forms of SM, you would think a football forum where by and large QPR is the glue that bonds us would be exempt but alas not. And it will never change. |  |
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| The Pound on 13:56 - Oct 4 with 1557 views | SheffieldHoop |
| The Pound on 13:42 - Oct 4 by Sharpy36 |
Normally when one side of the argument start to lose or run out of mud to sling at that opposing view point. It happens on all forms of SM, you would think a football forum where by and large QPR is the glue that bonds us would be exempt but alas not. And it will never change. |
Back on topic - The £ is now back at $1.14 - Higher than it was when this thread was started. No comments from the usual mob who were so delighted to see the country being made poorer last week. | |
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| The Pound on 14:16 - Oct 4 with 1499 views | Sonofpugwash |
| The Pound on 13:56 - Oct 4 by SheffieldHoop |
Back on topic - The £ is now back at $1.14 - Higher than it was when this thread was started. No comments from the usual mob who were so delighted to see the country being made poorer last week. |
That's more like it,back to civility hopefully..
I should point out that there's an increase in visits by Our Shiny Boys in Blue,unwarranted searches and seizure of electronic equipment,all due to alleged "insulting messages" on social media and an objection lodged.
Please be very careful from now on. |  |
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| The Pound on 14:20 - Oct 4 with 1488 views | Juzzie |
From a news-feed that's popped up on my phone saying that Liz Truss "is still in favour of lowering taxes for the high earners although it is not something she is currently contemplating"
It also says "Overall her tax cuts are estimated to cost £43bn, and the government is under pressure to show how it will pay for the changes". |  | | |
| The Pound on 14:34 - Oct 4 with 1440 views | JimmyR |
| The Pound on 08:53 - Oct 4 by slmrstid |
I'm with you Baz, pretty obvious Sakura is Russian Bot and whether he likes it or not I also think he's Sheffield in disguise.
If that's wrong its wrong but the writing styles and tone are virtually identical, and I'm yet to see Sakura post about QPR whilst Sheffield does quite a bit.
They may not like it, they may deny it, they may be right in not being the same, but thats the way it goes when you start to build a reputation for yourself, and unless I see definitive proof otherwise I also think the same as you that they are one and the same.
And its annoying, because I read these threads out of interest and curiosity, and I see some of the same posters popping up to agree with each other, or upvote each other, and can't be entirely sure that actually its not the same person trying to back themselves up, which makes the entire thing untrustworthy. Which I know has been done on here before so it immediately makes me cynical.
In other news my pensions and ISAs are still tanking so there's something to (not) enjoy. [Post edited 4 Oct 2022 8:54]
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Yeah I agree
By similar styles do you mean deliberately misrepresentative? Going absolutely out of their way to be as offensive as possible and lie about what’s been said. Classic narcissist style? Most likely because no one would listen unless they say something inflammatory.
You can get VPNs for free now so it would very easy to hide your IP and immediately upvote your own comments. The best defensive is to completely ignore them | | | |
| The Pound on 14:35 - Oct 4 with 1431 views | Sonofpugwash |
Spot on,and they're still printing to Infinity.
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