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Another "dodgy" owner 14:55 - Sep 22 with 4425 viewsnordenblue

Looks like the money man behind Fleetwood is in hot water......there's a surprise

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/fleetwood-town-owner-andy-pilley-a
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Another "dodgy" owner on 15:51 - Sep 22 with 4247 viewsboromat

It's all great until they decide to walk away or stop pumping money in. We're obviously all concerned about dodgy owners at the moment but I also wouldn't be too thrilled about a Dale fan multi millionaire coming in and running the club unsustainably. Still needs a proper business plan and not just good intentions.

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Another "dodgy" owner on 16:44 - Sep 22 with 4109 viewsfitzochris

Another "dodgy" owner on 15:51 - Sep 22 by boromat

It's all great until they decide to walk away or stop pumping money in. We're obviously all concerned about dodgy owners at the moment but I also wouldn't be too thrilled about a Dale fan multi millionaire coming in and running the club unsustainably. Still needs a proper business plan and not just good intentions.


Brooks Mileson is an excellent case in point to illustrate your latter point.

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Another "dodgy" owner on 17:02 - Sep 22 with 4055 views49thseason

The idea that a millionaire is going to just dump a couple of million a year into a football club forever is hugely fanciful. Elton John didn't actually put a penny into Watford, he simply guaranteed a £1m loan from the bank, but then a million in those days was a huge number.

Building a sustainable club is a hugely difficult undertaking with the vagaries of good and bad seasons and which clubs you play during the season and your capacity to sell a player at a good profit. Sunderland at home is great financially, Southend not so much. If a division becomes dominated by local clubs, happy days for some but not others if their crowds are smaller as a result of travelling distances. There is a strong argument for a return regional divisions per the old Div3 N&S.
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Another "dodgy" owner on 17:17 - Sep 22 with 4007 viewsDalenet

Another "dodgy" owner on 17:02 - Sep 22 by 49thseason

The idea that a millionaire is going to just dump a couple of million a year into a football club forever is hugely fanciful. Elton John didn't actually put a penny into Watford, he simply guaranteed a £1m loan from the bank, but then a million in those days was a huge number.

Building a sustainable club is a hugely difficult undertaking with the vagaries of good and bad seasons and which clubs you play during the season and your capacity to sell a player at a good profit. Sunderland at home is great financially, Southend not so much. If a division becomes dominated by local clubs, happy days for some but not others if their crowds are smaller as a result of travelling distances. There is a strong argument for a return regional divisions per the old Div3 N&S.


Building a sustainable club is a challenge whilst each division has such disparity in funding. In theory the likes of Sunderland should comfortably be sustainable, but their financial challenges over the past 5 or 6 years are well known. A club that has now been bought by a billionaire and a fanbase that still have high expectations that there is investment beyond their means to achieve success.

The salary cap would have been a good leveller but sadly the PFA objected - but then Gordon Taylor was paid more than it cost to run a League Two club and when did turkeys vote for Christmas.

The debt owed in the Championship is eye watering. Who's next into Admin?
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Another "dodgy" owner on 09:38 - Sep 23 with 3498 viewsSheffdale

Another "dodgy" owner on 16:44 - Sep 22 by fitzochris

Brooks Mileson is an excellent case in point to illustrate your latter point.


The Brooks Mileson story looks an interesting one that I was unfamiliar with. His time at Gretna was described as "an ego trip" by the St Johnstone chair when Gretna went out of business. I guess ego is always going to play a part with any substantial investment football club.
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Another "dodgy" owner on 11:15 - Sep 23 with 3353 viewsjonahwhereru

I do hope that regardless of the outcome of this trial that the Fleetwood club does not go the same way as what happened with both Darlington (or was it Hartlepool) where the Magnet founder invested and Rushden where Max whathisname funded the team.
Don’t think you will ever stop these vanity projects but it is such a shame those long term real fans of clubs when these things happen.
Having said all that I wouldn’t say no to resigning Callum Camps next season.
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Another "dodgy" owner on 12:14 - Sep 23 with 3252 viewsEllDale

The golden rule is obviously to beware of sugar daddies.
The bloke who allegedly bankrolled Huddersfield from League One to the Premier League simply didn't do that.
He later sold the club for £5million and then revealed that the £30million that he'd put into the club was merely a series of loans which he wanted back.
They're paying it back at £5million a year which is partially crippling them financially.
He knew they could afford it because of parachute payments.
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Another "dodgy" owner on 15:24 - Sep 23 with 3034 viewsBigKindo

It appears to have come to light in 2016. I recall it being on BBC North West news at the time.

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/police-and-trading-standards-raid-bes-ut

It would appear that Mr. Pilley has also taken action.

https://www.northwichguardian.co.uk/news/19595492.fleetwood-town-fc-chairman-sue
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Another "dodgy" owner on 17:37 - Sep 23 with 2869 viewsblackdogblue

Nice they published their addresses 🤷‍♂️

Sure the Fleetwood massive if they have will pay no attention to this piece of information if the club do go South (or North Division like a certain RIPBFC)

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