| Joe Rodon 18:11 - Jun 16 with 3124 views | onehunglow |
Watching him at this level really does make me seethe at his give away sale. |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 09:09 - Jun 17 with 886 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 22:25 - Jun 16 by jack247 |
We needed to sell more than they needed to buy. It was certainly below his true value, but it was deadline day and they were the only club in for him. If we’d held out for £20m plus, we probably wouldn’t have got anything. I think we brought in 5 first team/fringe players off the back of it?
Although we weren’t the only club bidding, we did the same to Wigan for Jamal Lowe. They needed cash and we exploited it. We’d probably have had him for less if we were the only club in for him. |
The most basic concept of direct selling is to condition the prospect,in this case Daniel Levy.
If Spurs really did want this product then we should have been conditioning Levy into believing that the price will be high or at least not derisory ,as was this .
Making out you're desperate for money ,as we did, is selling suicide. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 09:23 - Jun 17 with 877 views | jack247 |
| Joe Rodon on 09:09 - Jun 17 by onehunglow |
The most basic concept of direct selling is to condition the prospect,in this case Daniel Levy.
If Spurs really did want this product then we should have been conditioning Levy into believing that the price will be high or at least not derisory ,as was this .
Making out you're desperate for money ,as we did, is selling suicide. |
Do you honestly think Spurs didn’t know we needed money? Aside from the fact Birch was there, every club knows that.
Wigan are even more desperate. Lowe was worth far more than £800k.
It’s hardly as if we could blag it and make Levy think we were flush. | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 09:26 - Jun 17 with 872 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 09:23 - Jun 17 by jack247 |
Do you honestly think Spurs didn’t know we needed money? Aside from the fact Birch was there, every club knows that.
Wigan are even more desperate. Lowe was worth far more than £800k.
It’s hardly as if we could blag it and make Levy think we were flush. |
I do not see it your way.
It does not change my view.
I'll leave it there.
I'm getting away from unpleasantness. Lifey shows me it's still around | |
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| Joe Rodon on 09:34 - Jun 17 with 860 views | jack247 |
| Joe Rodon on 09:26 - Jun 17 by onehunglow |
I do not see it your way.
It does not change my view.
I'll leave it there.
I'm getting away from unpleasantness. Lifey shows me it's still around |
That’s fine.
I’m only explaining why clubs in our situation can’t demand top dollar, or even market value, on deadline day when only one club is interested.
If you want to believe our financial position isn’t public knowledge, that’s up to you. | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 09:35 - Jun 17 with 860 views | KeithHaynes |
| Joe Rodon on 09:23 - Jun 17 by jack247 |
Do you honestly think Spurs didn’t know we needed money? Aside from the fact Birch was there, every club knows that.
Wigan are even more desperate. Lowe was worth far more than £800k.
It’s hardly as if we could blag it and make Levy think we were flush. |
We shop well, we sell low, that’s the deal, Rodon went for 11.8 million rising to 15 with add ons. At the time it was as good as we could get. |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 09:37 - Jun 17 with 856 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 09:35 - Jun 17 by KeithHaynes |
We shop well, we sell low, that’s the deal, Rodon went for 11.8 million rising to 15 with add ons. At the time it was as good as we could get. |
"we could get" is a key phrase .It's key because of the position we got ourselves cornered.
We see things differently.
Vive le Difference | |
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| Joe Rodon on 09:50 - Jun 17 with 836 views | jack247 |
| Joe Rodon on 09:35 - Jun 17 by KeithHaynes |
We shop well, we sell low, that’s the deal, Rodon went for 11.8 million rising to 15 with add ons. At the time it was as good as we could get. |
I know. Hardly confusing is it? | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 10:27 - Jun 17 with 818 views | Badlands |
Rodon had a good game as did all the others … even Mepham (!) but did struggle at times and looked uncomfortable as was picked up on S4C commentary. Joe, like others, was less than great against the Swiss.
Some commenters always go over the top when a decent player has a good game especially if it offers a crack at the club.
Against Italy we'll need Cabango or other to help with high balls and crossess. |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 11:58 - Jun 17 with 789 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 09:50 - Jun 17 by jack247 |
I know. Hardly confusing is it? |
No,it's not confusing at all.
This is though
People thinking we bought Lowe on the cheap as Wigan were desperate. He aint worth that ,come on.
Whittaker was bought for what 900k,and that a bargain ? Nah.
The best deal we did was Siggy although the profit seemed to disappear down the black hole that our esteemed yankie owners try to fill.
so,no confusion here Gents,just hard nosed market realism. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 12:01 - Jun 17 with 789 views | jasper_T |
| Joe Rodon on 10:27 - Jun 17 by Badlands |
Rodon had a good game as did all the others … even Mepham (!) but did struggle at times and looked uncomfortable as was picked up on S4C commentary. Joe, like others, was less than great against the Swiss.
Some commenters always go over the top when a decent player has a good game especially if it offers a crack at the club.
Against Italy we'll need Cabango or other to help with high balls and crossess. |
Do they have a big target man in the squad? Immobile, Chiesa, Berardi, Insigne... not exactly mountains. Chiellini probably injured, their biggest set piece threat.
When we played Man City we didn't load up on big centre halves, Matty Grimes dropped into the backline. I'd play a back 5 with Davies and Ampadu either side of Joe. Match up Spinazolla's energy with Connor's (for an hour, then whip him off). Rest Moore, pace on the counter with DJ and Brooks. They've not been tested with balls lumped into the channels behind the wingbacks yet... | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 12:16 - Jun 17 with 770 views | Whiterockin |
| Joe Rodon on 12:01 - Jun 17 by jasper_T |
Do they have a big target man in the squad? Immobile, Chiesa, Berardi, Insigne... not exactly mountains. Chiellini probably injured, their biggest set piece threat.
When we played Man City we didn't load up on big centre halves, Matty Grimes dropped into the backline. I'd play a back 5 with Davies and Ampadu either side of Joe. Match up Spinazolla's energy with Connor's (for an hour, then whip him off). Rest Moore, pace on the counter with DJ and Brooks. They've not been tested with balls lumped into the channels behind the wingbacks yet... |
Rest Moore, pace on the counter with DJ and Brooks. They've not been tested with balls lumped into the channels behind
Exactly this. Their ageing defence will either have to sit deep and allow us space to play in front of it or risk getting caught behind. I am really optimistic about us getting at least a point. |  | | |
| Joe Rodon on 13:07 - Jun 17 with 742 views | jack247 |
| Joe Rodon on 11:58 - Jun 17 by onehunglow |
No,it's not confusing at all.
This is though
People thinking we bought Lowe on the cheap as Wigan were desperate. He aint worth that ,come on.
Whittaker was bought for what 900k,and that a bargain ? Nah.
The best deal we did was Siggy although the profit seemed to disappear down the black hole that our esteemed yankie owners try to fill.
so,no confusion here Gents,just hard nosed market realism. |
It’s hard to take you seriously when you post stuff like this.
We paid £800k for Lowe, he scored 14 goals. 10th most in the Championship. | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 13:34 - Jun 17 with 730 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 13:07 - Jun 17 by jack247 |
It’s hard to take you seriously when you post stuff like this.
We paid £800k for Lowe, he scored 14 goals. 10th most in the Championship. |
Life is hard but don't fret.Im not.
Who exactly needs to be taken seriously.
I stand by every word. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 14:25 - Jun 17 with 708 views | jack247 |
| Joe Rodon on 13:34 - Jun 17 by onehunglow |
Life is hard but don't fret.Im not.
Who exactly needs to be taken seriously.
I stand by every word. |
No fretting.
If you’re going to come out with stuff like
We should have been able to hoodwink Levy into thinking we didn’t need the money
Lowe wasn’t a steal at £800k
People are simply going to correct you. | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 16:00 - Jun 17 with 670 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
Wasnt Birch at Spurs then so Levy knew 100% we needed the money or am I mistaken |  |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| Joe Rodon on 16:10 - Jun 17 with 663 views | jack247 |
| Joe Rodon on 16:00 - Jun 17 by PatchesOHoulihan |
Wasnt Birch at Spurs then so Levy knew 100% we needed the money or am I mistaken |
Yes.
He’d have had more detailed knowledge of our finances, but any PL club coming in on their own on the last day of the window would have known they held the aces. | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 17:42 - Jun 17 with 635 views | ATFV |
| Joe Rodon on 16:10 - Jun 17 by jack247 |
Yes.
He’d have had more detailed knowledge of our finances, but any PL club coming in on their own on the last day of the window would have known they held the aces. |
Plus the minor inconvenience of it being the middle of a freakin' global pandemic that stopped income coming in through gate receipts etc, with every Football League club pleading subsequent poverty and clamouring for urgent Premier League financial assistance. But against that backdrop we should have been convincing Levy that we could take or leave his offer without a second thought.
Maybe we should have tried hypnotism on him? 
As others have tried to explain in lucid fashion throughout this thread, we had little choice. The player wanted to go, an auction between both Manchester clubs, Spurs and others didn't materialise and our already precarious financial state was being magnified by the effects of Covid. Whilst the money we got up front for Joe was low, it enabled is to not only keep trading but strengthen other areas of the squad. |  | | |
| Joe Rodon on 18:09 - Jun 17 with 614 views | lifelong |
| Joe Rodon on 14:25 - Jun 17 by jack247 |
No fretting.
If you’re going to come out with stuff like
We should have been able to hoodwink Levy into thinking we didn’t need the money
Lowe wasn’t a steal at £800k
People are simply going to correct you. |
He’ll eventually get on your nerves, he hasn’t got a clue, he’s got loads of form for it.👠|  | | |
| Joe Rodon on 21:26 - Jun 17 with 573 views | AndyCole |
| Joe Rodon on 14:25 - Jun 17 by jack247 |
No fretting.
If you’re going to come out with stuff like
We should have been able to hoodwink Levy into thinking we didn’t need the money
Lowe wasn’t a steal at £800k
People are simply going to correct you. |
'People are simply going to correct you.'
What a load of baloney. Imagine a forum where we were all doing that - looking to 'correct' other people's opinions.
For example if someone chose to 'correct' a clueless poster's opinion that Turkey were just as likely to beat Italy 1-0 as Italy were to beat Turkey 1-0. Which of course was a bonkers opinion. But nobody called out / 'corrected' that poster's opinion, pre or post the 3-0 drubbing of a predictably woeful Turkey. | |
| Pro free speech and alternative opinions -
Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye |
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| Joe Rodon on 21:42 - Jun 17 with 567 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 14:25 - Jun 17 by jack247 |
No fretting.
If you’re going to come out with stuff like
We should have been able to hoodwink Levy into thinking we didn’t need the money
Lowe wasn’t a steal at £800k
People are simply going to correct you. |
YOU correct me?  -thanks for that.#Almost as laughable as seemingly having to answer to you and the gang.
Lowe was sold without the record you mention . Ergo,it was anything but robbing Wigan so I have corrected you.See? | |
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| Joe Rodon on 06:16 - Jun 18 with 520 views | jack247 |
| Joe Rodon on 21:26 - Jun 17 by AndyCole |
'People are simply going to correct you.'
What a load of baloney. Imagine a forum where we were all doing that - looking to 'correct' other people's opinions.
For example if someone chose to 'correct' a clueless poster's opinion that Turkey were just as likely to beat Italy 1-0 as Italy were to beat Turkey 1-0. Which of course was a bonkers opinion. But nobody called out / 'corrected' that poster's opinion, pre or post the 3-0 drubbing of a predictably woeful Turkey. |
I agree, that’s a crazy opinion, but at least it’s an opinion.
We could have pretended we didn’t need the money and Levy and Birch would have bought it is absurd babbling nonsense, as many others have patiently explained. Enough people corrected him in this thread, I’ve just pointed it out.
Turkey were far more likely to beat Italy than any club who sells its best couple of players every summer were to convince anyone they could turn down 8 figures on deadline day. | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 06:17 - Jun 18 with 518 views | jack247 |
| Joe Rodon on 21:42 - Jun 17 by onehunglow |
YOU correct me? -thanks for that.#Almost as laughable as seemingly having to answer to you and the gang.
Lowe was sold without the record you mention . Ergo,it was anything but robbing Wigan so I have corrected you.See? |
I thought you weren’t fretting? You seem to be slipping back into Perch mode
Lowe was a winger at Wigan. | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 08:42 - Jun 18 with 476 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 06:17 - Jun 18 by jack247 |
I thought you weren’t fretting? You seem to be slipping back into Perch mode
Lowe was a winger at Wigan. |
Why reply to a username now well buried .
You've dropped your guard there Champ.
You on morning duty today?
Any instructions from HQ ?
Best wind yer neck in ,son | |
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| Joe Rodon on 10:45 - Jun 18 with 440 views | jack247 |
| Joe Rodon on 08:42 - Jun 18 by onehunglow |
Why reply to a username now well buried .
You've dropped your guard there Champ.
You on morning duty today?
Any instructions from HQ ?
Best wind yer neck in ,son |
You talk about usernames like Perch and OHL are different people. Whichever really, I’m replying to you.
Wind my neck in? Christ, all I’ve done is said people will correct you when you post nonsense. ATFV, Keith and Patches have all done so on this thread. It’s not new and it’s not exclusive to yourself. Drop the persecution complex yeah? | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 10:54 - Jun 18 with 432 views | Dr_Winston |
| Joe Rodon on 10:45 - Jun 18 by jack247 |
You talk about usernames like Perch and OHL are different people. Whichever really, I’m replying to you.
Wind my neck in? Christ, all I’ve done is said people will correct you when you post nonsense. ATFV, Keith and Patches have all done so on this thread. It’s not new and it’s not exclusive to yourself. Drop the persecution complex yeah? |
He's 64% persecution complex (the rest is mostly hypocrisy and hatred). You're asking a lot of him. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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