| Ralph is just wonderful 22:06 - Jan 4 with 5305 views | Saintsforeverj |
Ralph is so emotional and loves SFC. Crying at the end - what passion for the club we love. He is the best manager of recent times and could be the best we have had. I hope he wins something. [Post edited 4 Jan 2021 22:07]
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 13:42 - Jan 5 with 1426 views | Berber |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 13:06 - Jan 5 by franniesTache |
He's a grown adult cry at a game of football in a match that's not even of major significance, of course it's embarrassing. |
But you don't know what is going on in his life yesterday or the days before. But it is not an English thing, which is fair enough as he is Austrian. At least he doesn't squat down as if to take a dump all match like another manager. |  |
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 14:29 - Jan 5 with 1401 views | InsideOut |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 13:42 - Jan 5 by Berber |
But you don't know what is going on in his life yesterday or the days before. But it is not an English thing, which is fair enough as he is Austrian. At least he doesn't squat down as if to take a dump all match like another manager. |
Yeah I don't give a damn if Ralph gets emotional and quite like Bielsa but that position of his is visually painful  |  |
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 14:38 - Jan 5 with 1395 views | grumpy |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 11:30 - Jan 5 by Chesham_Saint |
Why the watery eyes? A number of reasons:
It’s only just over a year since “that game” so he’s had to dig deep to come from potential sacking and ignomy to beating the current champions.
We had lost the spine of our supposed best team (McCarthy/Vestergaard/Romeu/Adams).
We had a bench full of academy players and they and the rest of the team did him proud.
We’d had a bad run (by our recent standards) so another thumping was possibly on the cards.
He had to self isolate for the last match.
He’s finally beaten Klopp, the manager to whom he’s always compared in a patronising way.
It was a close call and Liverpool often dig a couple of late goals out of the bag against many others so stressful right to the finish.
And just maybe he cares about, and is proud of, the club and players?
Add that little lot up and you can see why it may have got a tad emotional? |
I agree, Chesham.
What's so wrong with showing the passion he does?
It certainly rubs off on the players.
Ralph has done a fantastic job with the players he has. |  | | |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:11 - Jan 5 with 1329 views | Saintsforeverj |
Ralph is very passionate, you can see how much this club means to him and I love him for that. He has integrity, he is honest and he shows his emotions. Compare him to Puel. I know what I would prefer. And imo, passionate managers who care deeply have a team on on the pitch that show the same desire.
And his comparison to Klopp, well I am sure the Liverpool fans love Klopp for the same reasons. But what sets them apart is how they react after defeats. Klopp storms up to the ref, Ralph accepts defeats with dignity and doesn't make excuses. Klopp was part of the illegal approach for VD, and he slams people like Wilder publicly. Ralph is classier than that. [Post edited 5 Jan 2021 17:18]
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:15 - Jan 5 with 1325 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:11 - Jan 5 by Saintsforeverj |
Ralph is very passionate, you can see how much this club means to him and I love him for that. He has integrity, he is honest and he shows his emotions. Compare him to Puel. I know what I would prefer. And imo, passionate managers who care deeply have a team on on the pitch that show the same desire.
And his comparison to Klopp, well I am sure the Liverpool fans love Klopp for the same reasons. But what sets them apart is how they react after defeats. Klopp storms up to the ref, Ralph accepts defeats with dignity and doesn't make excuses. Klopp was part of the illegal approach for VD, and he slams people like Wilder publicly. Ralph is classier than that. [Post edited 5 Jan 2021 17:18]
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I suppose it could be argued that Ralph has to accept defeat more often than Klopp so is better at it! |  |
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:24 - Jan 5 with 1316 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:15 - Jan 5 by Chesham_Saint |
I suppose it could be argued that Ralph has to accept defeat more often than Klopp so is better at it! |
Very true but that is the point. Easy to be passionate when you have millions of pounds to spend and you can buy players like VD. Ralph is passionate coming from adversity. From adversity to beating the champions, is why Ralph reacted like he did. And he often reacts passionately, because Ralph loves our club and it means the world to him. [Post edited 5 Jan 2021 17:25]
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:38 - Jan 5 with 1308 views | Sadoldgit |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 13:06 - Jan 5 by franniesTache |
He's a grown adult cry at a game of football in a match that's not even of major significance, of course it's embarrassing. |
Plenty of grown adults have cried at football matches of no significance as you say. Who didn’t have a tear in their eye when Rickie scored with his first touch for England or MLT scored the winner in his final game against Arsenal? We had just beaten the Champions with many usual starters out and a bunch off kids coming off the bench. We had our backs against the wall for most of the second half. Ralph has finally beaten Klopp. It was a release of emotion. I really don’t see why you have a problem with it. We have had several managers who have been criticised for not showing any emotion. Why don’t you slag Moussa off for crying when he injured himself too? These people are human beings who clearly care about what they are doing. I would rather support a team of humans that a bunch of emotionless robots. |  | | |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:47 - Jan 5 with 1298 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:38 - Jan 5 by Sadoldgit |
Plenty of grown adults have cried at football matches of no significance as you say. Who didn’t have a tear in their eye when Rickie scored with his first touch for England or MLT scored the winner in his final game against Arsenal? We had just beaten the Champions with many usual starters out and a bunch off kids coming off the bench. We had our backs against the wall for most of the second half. Ralph has finally beaten Klopp. It was a release of emotion. I really don’t see why you have a problem with it. We have had several managers who have been criticised for not showing any emotion. Why don’t you slag Moussa off for crying when he injured himself too? These people are human beings who clearly care about what they are doing. I would rather support a team of humans that a bunch of emotionless robots. |
Very true. I personally love Ralph for his passion and emotions. That's probably why the players give their all on the pitch for him because they know he cares. | |
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:49 - Jan 5 with 1295 views | Bazza |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:38 - Jan 5 by Sadoldgit |
Plenty of grown adults have cried at football matches of no significance as you say. Who didn’t have a tear in their eye when Rickie scored with his first touch for England or MLT scored the winner in his final game against Arsenal? We had just beaten the Champions with many usual starters out and a bunch off kids coming off the bench. We had our backs against the wall for most of the second half. Ralph has finally beaten Klopp. It was a release of emotion. I really don’t see why you have a problem with it. We have had several managers who have been criticised for not showing any emotion. Why don’t you slag Moussa off for crying when he injured himself too? These people are human beings who clearly care about what they are doing. I would rather support a team of humans that a bunch of emotionless robots. |
Well said Soggy. It’s sometimes shocking when you see a man cry but many cultures don’t think that’s at all odd. Maybe being able to cry would reduce stress levels suffered by our embedded stiff upper lip attitude. | | | |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:56 - Jan 5 with 1288 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:49 - Jan 5 by Bazza |
Well said Soggy. It’s sometimes shocking when you see a man cry but many cultures don’t think that’s at all odd. Maybe being able to cry would reduce stress levels suffered by our embedded stiff upper lip attitude. |
As you suggest, nothing wrong with a man crying. "Tough" men in the armed force cry. | |
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 18:42 - Jan 5 with 1259 views | Sadoldgit |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 17:49 - Jan 5 by Bazza |
Well said Soggy. It’s sometimes shocking when you see a man cry but many cultures don’t think that’s at all odd. Maybe being able to cry would reduce stress levels suffered by our embedded stiff upper lip attitude. |
I am known to blubber quite a lot myself Bazza. I don’t think I have ever managed to get through a Children In Need night on the telly without a box of tissues handy. | | | |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 19:48 - Jan 5 with 1219 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 18:42 - Jan 5 by Sadoldgit |
I am known to blubber quite a lot myself Bazza. I don’t think I have ever managed to get through a Children In Need night on the telly without a box of tissues handy. |
Right! Ever since Joanna Lumley did that strip tease, Soggsy?  | |
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 19:55 - Jan 5 with 1206 views | Sadoldgit |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 19:48 - Jan 5 by Chesham_Saint |
Right! Ever since Joanna Lumley did that strip tease, Soggsy? |
As soon as I read that back I realised that I should never have mentioned the box of tissues! 😉 | | | |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 07:17 - Jan 6 with 1096 views | Andylad63 |
To move the subject on a little from whether it is "manly" to show emotion, this result might be getting contract writer each side of Stanley Park working. Koeman's joy at getting one over on Liverpool F.C. was soon followed up with a move to a Liverpool post code and another team desperate to laugh in Jurgens face. Mane scores a winner and moves north, Lallana bosses them and soon swaps shirts. Two of our centre half in recent years have been dominant against not just the scouse team but have soon been tempted away. Klopp's not expected to extend his contract and if things run as they are Ralph's name has to be up there. Liverpool F.C. (or Everton) would love his emotion, because scoussers are amongst the soppiest of brits, he plays a similar way to Klopp, in some ways he is a natural successor. Yes he might love Saints but would any manager decline an offer to be manager of one of the world's so called big teams? |  | | |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 09:31 - Jan 6 with 1046 views | solent_toffee |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 07:17 - Jan 6 by Andylad63 |
To move the subject on a little from whether it is "manly" to show emotion, this result might be getting contract writer each side of Stanley Park working. Koeman's joy at getting one over on Liverpool F.C. was soon followed up with a move to a Liverpool post code and another team desperate to laugh in Jurgens face. Mane scores a winner and moves north, Lallana bosses them and soon swaps shirts. Two of our centre half in recent years have been dominant against not just the scouse team but have soon been tempted away. Klopp's not expected to extend his contract and if things run as they are Ralph's name has to be up there. Liverpool F.C. (or Everton) would love his emotion, because scoussers are amongst the soppiest of brits, he plays a similar way to Klopp, in some ways he is a natural successor. Yes he might love Saints but would any manager decline an offer to be manager of one of the world's so called big teams? |
I think Everton fans are strange ones, as I’m sure all clubs supporters are.
Roberto Martinez was the nicest, most passionate, positive, engaging manager and person. In his first year, he did amazingly well (phenomenal as he would say - about ten times an interview), they played great football and amassed 72 points which would walk into the CL spots in other years. Yet the cynical Everton fans used to take the piss out of this over the top positivity and as results dropped the following season, the positivity became something to bash him with. In his third season, the were doing well, semi finals in both cups, decent in the league. But the fans had turned on him as had the players and his outward positivity just grated on everyone who wanted him to be nastier, fiercer. Sad really, but there you go.
I’m not sure if Everton fans would take to Hassenhuttl. Most didn’t take to Koeman, who in turn didn’t take to Everton and Marco Silva seemed to have a rabbit in headlights relationship with the club/fans. It was almost like he wasn’t there, like a promiscuous relative bringing their latest squeeze around on Christmas Day.
Moyes was dour and predictable, Everton fans liked that. Ancelotti is perfect for the club, he has a dourness, calls it as it is and calls people out,but is also friendly and has really bought into the club.
If Hassenhuttl came to Everton (massive long shot) I think Everton would ruin him. He’d be crying but they wouldn’t be tear of joy. Besides which I don’t want to see an Everton manager wearing a baseball cap.
Could definitely see the other lot loving him though. | | | |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 10:32 - Jan 6 with 1015 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 09:31 - Jan 6 by solent_toffee |
I think Everton fans are strange ones, as I’m sure all clubs supporters are.
Roberto Martinez was the nicest, most passionate, positive, engaging manager and person. In his first year, he did amazingly well (phenomenal as he would say - about ten times an interview), they played great football and amassed 72 points which would walk into the CL spots in other years. Yet the cynical Everton fans used to take the piss out of this over the top positivity and as results dropped the following season, the positivity became something to bash him with. In his third season, the were doing well, semi finals in both cups, decent in the league. But the fans had turned on him as had the players and his outward positivity just grated on everyone who wanted him to be nastier, fiercer. Sad really, but there you go.
I’m not sure if Everton fans would take to Hassenhuttl. Most didn’t take to Koeman, who in turn didn’t take to Everton and Marco Silva seemed to have a rabbit in headlights relationship with the club/fans. It was almost like he wasn’t there, like a promiscuous relative bringing their latest squeeze around on Christmas Day.
Moyes was dour and predictable, Everton fans liked that. Ancelotti is perfect for the club, he has a dourness, calls it as it is and calls people out,but is also friendly and has really bought into the club.
If Hassenhuttl came to Everton (massive long shot) I think Everton would ruin him. He’d be crying but they wouldn’t be tear of joy. Besides which I don’t want to see an Everton manager wearing a baseball cap.
Could definitely see the other lot loving him though. |
What about Howard Kendall? I had to laugh when an Everton supporting friend of mine said he was at Goodson when the team were parading the old Div 1 (or should that be ‘Divvy’?) trophy - having just won it in some style I might add - heard a fellow Toffee shout at Kendall “Oi, Kendall! You’re shyte!” and apparently he didn’t seem to be joking...). | |
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| Ralph is just wonderful on 10:39 - Jan 6 with 1008 views | solent_toffee |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 10:32 - Jan 6 by Chesham_Saint |
What about Howard Kendall? I had to laugh when an Everton supporting friend of mine said he was at Goodson when the team were parading the old Div 1 (or should that be ‘Divvy’?) trophy - having just won it in some style I might add - heard a fellow Toffee shout at Kendall “Oi, Kendall! You’re shyte!” and apparently he didn’t seem to be joking...). |
I loved Howard Kendall, great manager and person. But as you said even though he was the greatest manager they’ve ever had, there were some people who couldn’t stand him. My Uncle was one of them. I think he was one of the Kendall Out leaflet distributors just before Everton turned the corner and became successful under Howard. Some people are that stubborn they are incapable of admitting they were wrong! | | | |
| Ralph is just wonderful on 11:15 - Jan 6 with 988 views | kernow |
Ralph is obviously an emotional man, wears his heart on his sleeve and all that, no problem with that at all.
In the past, some Saints' performances have made me want to skrike and self flagellate. Monday night wasn't one of them to be fair. | | | |
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