| John Toshack 21:36 - Sep 11 with 5533 views | thornabyswan |
Can anyone answer this one.
When Tosh took over as player manager was 28 or 29 I think.
Can't imagine a player leaving a top club to manage at that young age now.
How did this come about was he still in the Liverpool team when he left. [Post edited 11 Sep 2019 21:38]
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| John Toshack on 21:42 - Sep 11 with 3665 views | glanmORJa_k |
Tosh was all set to sign for Leicester but he failed a medical but a few months later he was allowed to join the Swans as player manager after watching them lose at Rochdale. | | | |
| John Toshack on 21:55 - Sep 11 with 3601 views | raynor94 |
His knees were not up to the rigour of a 42 game division 1 season |  |
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| John Toshack on 22:06 - Sep 11 with 3570 views | Garyjack |
| John Toshack on 21:55 - Sep 11 by raynor94 |
His knees were not up to the rigour of a 42 game division 1 season |
Plus the fact that he turned down returning to Cardiff as a player.  |  | | |
| John Toshack on 22:08 - Sep 11 with 3556 views | raynor94 |
| John Toshack on 22:06 - Sep 11 by Garyjack |
Plus the fact that he turned down returning to Cardiff as a player. |
Forgot that one! | |
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| John Toshack on 22:08 - Sep 11 with 3551 views | Darran |
| John Toshack on 21:55 - Sep 11 by raynor94 |
His knees were not up to the rigour of a 42 game division 1 season |
His shoulders were too wide to carry his knees. |  |
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| John Toshack on 22:09 - Sep 11 with 3545 views | thornabyswan |
| John Toshack on 22:06 - Sep 11 by Garyjack |
Plus the fact that he turned down returning to Cardiff as a player. |
Should have mentioned that to Anus before he banned me  | |
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| John Toshack on 22:14 - Sep 11 with 3521 views | sherpajacob |
Player managers were not that unusual at the time, and there was not the same "stigma" regarding playing outside the top division.
Also Tosh would have seen the young talent in the swans squad, Charles, Curtis, James in particular and realised he'd have top flight quality players in the 4th division and he was onto a winner. |  |
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| John Toshack on 22:18 - Sep 11 with 3490 views | Darran |
| John Toshack on 22:14 - Sep 11 by sherpajacob |
Player managers were not that unusual at the time, and there was not the same "stigma" regarding playing outside the top division.
Also Tosh would have seen the young talent in the swans squad, Charles, Curtis, James in particular and realised he'd have top flight quality players in the 4th division and he was onto a winner. |
Most top players back in the day used to drop down the divisions top up their money because they couldn’t afford to retire. | |
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| John Toshack on 22:21 - Sep 11 with 3472 views | thornabyswan |
| John Toshack on 22:18 - Sep 11 by Darran |
Most top players back in the day used to drop down the divisions top up their money because they couldn’t afford to retire. |
28 though young but if his knees were knackered.
Played a few games for us though. | |
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| John Toshack on 22:30 - Sep 11 with 3426 views | Garyjack |
| John Toshack on 22:21 - Sep 11 by thornabyswan |
28 though young but if his knees were knackered.
Played a few games for us though. |
24 Goals in 63 games not bad for a cripple of a player/manager!  | | | |
| John Toshack on 22:45 - Sep 11 with 3386 views | theloneranger |
Tosh was on the way to Anderlecht but he failed his medical. He then wanted to join Cardiff as a player coach but was knocked back by Cardiff.
When Malcolm Struel heard of this he contacted Tosh and the rest is history, and he became the youngest manager in the Football League at 28.
What attracted Tosh to the Swans were the amount of talented young players, but most of all was the gentleman's agreement he had with Struel, in that if he was successful down the Vetch and Liverpool came calling he would be allowed to leave, something which nearly happened in 1982. [Post edited 11 Sep 2019 22:50]
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| John Toshack on 22:49 - Sep 11 with 3376 views | builthjack |
| John Toshack on 22:08 - Sep 11 by Darran |
His shoulders were too wide to carry his knees. |
But his knees are on his legs |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| John Toshack on 23:08 - Sep 11 with 3327 views | theloneranger |
A feature documentary called "Tosh: A Swansea Football Fairytale" is in production. | |
| Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎 |
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| John Toshack on 23:16 - Sep 11 with 3307 views | Darran |
| John Toshack on 22:49 - Sep 11 by builthjack |
But his knees are on his legs |
He did have a strange shape about him mind didn’t he wear short sleeve shirts because he couldn’t get into long sleeve ones? | |
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| John Toshack on 23:19 - Sep 11 with 3302 views | theloneranger |
| John Toshack on 23:16 - Sep 11 by Darran |
He did have a strange shape about him mind didn’t he wear short sleeve shirts because he couldn’t get into long sleeve ones? |
Coat Hanger Syndrome | |
| Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎 |
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| John Toshack on 23:26 - Sep 11 with 3286 views | Darran |
| John Toshack on 23:19 - Sep 11 by theloneranger |
Coat Hanger Syndrome |
There was definitely a story about it back in the day. 😂 | |
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| John Toshack on 23:46 - Sep 11 with 3264 views | WarwickHunt |
| John Toshack on 23:19 - Sep 11 by theloneranger |
Coat Hanger Syndrome |
Goal hanger syndrome. 😱 |  | | |
| John Toshack on 06:04 - Sep 12 with 3125 views | builthjack |
| John Toshack on 23:16 - Sep 11 by Darran |
He did have a strange shape about him mind didn’t he wear short sleeve shirts because he couldn’t get into long sleeve ones? |
The Hulk | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| John Toshack on 06:59 - Sep 12 with 3061 views | AnotherJohn |
My impression was that it was mainly the fitness issue. I don't know if the memory is fading, but as I recall Tosh couldn't generally manage 90 minutes and there were several games when he came on as a late substitute and scored crucial goals. | | | |
| John Toshack on 08:54 - Sep 12 with 2945 views | epaul |
| John Toshack on 23:08 - Sep 11 by theloneranger |
A feature documentary called "Tosh: A Swansea Football Fairytale" is in production. |
Pete put up a great snippet last night (on fb and twitter) about the Chesterfield game, its about 3 and half minutes long
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| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| John Toshack on 09:41 - Sep 12 with 2893 views | controversial_jack |
| John Toshack on 23:16 - Sep 11 by Darran |
He did have a strange shape about him mind didn’t he wear short sleeve shirts because he couldn’t get into long sleeve ones? |
Had a pic taken with him a few years ago, he's huge | | | |
| John Toshack on 09:48 - Sep 12 with 2885 views | dickythorpe |
In his autobiography it was a thigh injury that just wouldn't go away.
I enjoy listening to him. |  | | |
| John Toshack on 09:51 - Sep 12 with 2877 views | theloneranger |
| John Toshack on 09:41 - Sep 12 by controversial_jack |
Had a pic taken with him a few years ago, he's huge |
He played rugby as a youngster at fly half. | |
| Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎 |
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| John Toshack on 09:58 - Sep 12 with 2863 views | swancity |
| John Toshack on 22:45 - Sep 11 by theloneranger |
Tosh was on the way to Anderlecht but he failed his medical. He then wanted to join Cardiff as a player coach but was knocked back by Cardiff.
When Malcolm Struel heard of this he contacted Tosh and the rest is history, and he became the youngest manager in the Football League at 28.
What attracted Tosh to the Swans were the amount of talented young players, but most of all was the gentleman's agreement he had with Struel, in that if he was successful down the Vetch and Liverpool came calling he would be allowed to leave, something which nearly happened in 1982. [Post edited 11 Sep 2019 22:50]
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Not sure about Anderlecht but he did fail a medical at Leicester City. Ongoing thigh and knee problems were preventing him from reaching required fitness levels at Liverpool who allowed him to leave on a free transfer
He was an outstanding target man, one of the best. His perfect hat trick for Wales whilst a Swan in a 3-0 win v Scotland showed just how effective he was even when only 70% fit.
Apparently he met Struel by chance. Incredible to think what he achieved as a 28 year old and new to management... | |
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| John Toshack on 10:04 - Sep 12 with 2852 views | Darran |
| John Toshack on 09:58 - Sep 12 by swancity |
Not sure about Anderlecht but he did fail a medical at Leicester City. Ongoing thigh and knee problems were preventing him from reaching required fitness levels at Liverpool who allowed him to leave on a free transfer
He was an outstanding target man, one of the best. His perfect hat trick for Wales whilst a Swan in a 3-0 win v Scotland showed just how effective he was even when only 70% fit.
Apparently he met Struel by chance. Incredible to think what he achieved as a 28 year old and new to management... |
I was at that Wales game at Onion Park. | |
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