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McClaren gone - official 10:59 - Apr 1 with 32989 viewsAntti_Heinola

Haven't got a subscription to Murdoch's rag, but... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mcclaren-at-risk-of-sack-after-bolton-defeat-

The club want ANSWERS, damnit!

I think he might get Saturday if only because it would be unfair on the new guy to be in charge of an inevitable absolute humiliation live on sky.

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Bare bones.

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McClaren gone - official on 16:36 - Apr 1 with 2822 viewsDejR_vu

McClaren gone - official on 16:21 - Apr 1 by qprd

Holloway's response is why he's no longer manager. classless, uncalled for and undisciplined

david mcintyre tweeted somethign to the effect that the board didnt like having a child at the wheel. brentford comments, his millwall antics... there's a reason he got the sack


I'm no fan of Holloway but I don't think he's said too much wrong there.

On SM, what I think has done for him is the way the wheels have come off since Christmas, I've never seen anything like it. After years of decline and cr@p we finally looked like we were starting to head in the right direction leading up to Christmas, so the collapse since then is even harder to take the normal. No one can win 1 in 15 and have any complaints when they're shown the door, he's been absolutely abysmal.

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McClaren gone - official on 16:37 - Apr 1 with 2821 viewsHarbour

McClaren gone - official on 16:21 - Apr 1 by qprd

Holloway's response is why he's no longer manager. classless, uncalled for and undisciplined

david mcintyre tweeted somethign to the effect that the board didnt like having a child at the wheel. brentford comments, his millwall antics... there's a reason he got the sack


And there thinking of Tim Sherwood.prefer OH ..
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McClaren gone - official on 16:39 - Apr 1 with 2803 viewssimmo

McClaren gone - official on 16:21 - Apr 1 by qprd

Holloway's response is why he's no longer manager. classless, uncalled for and undisciplined

david mcintyre tweeted somethign to the effect that the board didnt like having a child at the wheel. brentford comments, his millwall antics... there's a reason he got the sack


I'm no huge Ollie sympathiser but he's right though, isn't he? Another Fernandes change on the basis that someone got in his ear. McClaren was in line for that job and clearly pitched for it long before he got it, that's wrong and Ollie has every right to feel aggrieved on that basis.

I think there are a lot more reasons Holloway was sacked than the fact McClaren was interested btw, but he did take the job of a man that was for all intents and purposes, fulfilling the remit he was given, McClaren never managed that.

ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead

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McClaren gone - official on 16:56 - Apr 1 with 2696 viewsManinBlack

McClaren gone - official on 14:31 - Apr 1 by CamberleyR

Not a lot it seems since Forest. He probably thinks he's got unfinished business though in the Championship.


We haven't done a lot since Forest either. We ended one jinx that day and started a new one in that it was our last ever win on a Saturday in all competitions.

Six points in three months is relegation form by any stretch of the imagination. If we did that in the first three months of next season we would be certain to go down. This momentum of losing could have continued into the start of the 19-20 season so he had to go. It has been said before that McLaren is a decent coach but management is not his forte.
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McClaren gone - official on 17:04 - Apr 1 with 2645 viewsqprd

McClaren gone - official on 16:39 - Apr 1 by simmo

I'm no huge Ollie sympathiser but he's right though, isn't he? Another Fernandes change on the basis that someone got in his ear. McClaren was in line for that job and clearly pitched for it long before he got it, that's wrong and Ollie has every right to feel aggrieved on that basis.

I think there are a lot more reasons Holloway was sacked than the fact McClaren was interested btw, but he did take the job of a man that was for all intents and purposes, fulfilling the remit he was given, McClaren never managed that.


Who knows if Mclaren was gunning for Ollie's job while he was in it. Perhaps schteve was approached by QPR.

But you're right, and for the most part, i cant disagree with what ollie has said.

my point is that these outbursts show a lack of discipline on his end and probably was something ownership didnt want to deal with
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McClaren gone - official on 17:14 - Apr 1 with 2590 viewsPunteR

McClaren gone - official on 17:04 - Apr 1 by qprd

Who knows if Mclaren was gunning for Ollie's job while he was in it. Perhaps schteve was approached by QPR.

But you're right, and for the most part, i cant disagree with what ollie has said.

my point is that these outbursts show a lack of discipline on his end and probably was something ownership didnt want to deal with


Ollie has always been outspoken. It really shouldn't have been a surprise for the board and hard to deal with..

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McClaren gone - official (n/t) (n/t) on 17:50 - Apr 1 with 2446 viewscorse

McClaren gone - official (n/t) (n/t) on 14:12 - Apr 1 by aston_hoop

Next QPR manager:

Tim Sherwood — 4/6
Karl Robinson — 5/2
Steve Cotterill — 6/1
Nigel Pearson — 12/1
Steve Evans — 16/1
Sam Allardyce — 20/1


Great...
[Post edited 1 Apr 2019 14:15]


This list fills me with fear and despair
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McClaren gone - official (n/t) (n/t) on 17:55 - Apr 1 with 2416 viewssimmo

McClaren gone - official (n/t) (n/t) on 17:50 - Apr 1 by corse

This list fills me with fear and despair


Sam Allardyce — 20/1

and gravy.

ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead

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McClaren gone - official on 18:00 - Apr 1 with 2390 viewspaulparker

McClaren gone - official on 16:21 - Apr 1 by qprd

Holloway's response is why he's no longer manager. classless, uncalled for and undisciplined

david mcintyre tweeted somethign to the effect that the board didnt like having a child at the wheel. brentford comments, his millwall antics... there's a reason he got the sack


He cares that’s why he says what he does , he loves this club and doesn’t or never did see us as a cash cow , if you cared about something and someone and they go behind your back then your going to be bitter , typical fernades I bet he didn’t even have the gonads to sack himself but spent months having Mclowns ear ,
When is this fan base going to wake up and realise we will never do anything with him running us into the ground he cannot get fcuk all right and never learns

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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McClaren gone - official (n/t) (n/t) on 18:05 - Apr 1 with 2369 viewsqprd

McClaren gone - official (n/t) (n/t) on 17:55 - Apr 1 by simmo

Sam Allardyce — 20/1

and gravy.


i dont think we have the funds to pay for big sams pie demands, let alone his wages
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McClaren gone - official on 18:10 - Apr 1 with 2351 viewsAntti_Heinola

McClaren gone - official on 18:00 - Apr 1 by paulparker

He cares that’s why he says what he does , he loves this club and doesn’t or never did see us as a cash cow , if you cared about something and someone and they go behind your back then your going to be bitter , typical fernades I bet he didn’t even have the gonads to sack himself but spent months having Mclowns ear ,
When is this fan base going to wake up and realise we will never do anything with him running us into the ground he cannot get fcuk all right and never learns


Not sure who you're raging against here Paul. Very few fans would disagree TF (and Ruben, who never gets a mention despite being majority shareholder) have made a pig's ear out of a potentially great situation. But until someone better comes along with a wish to buy the club, there's not a lot of point in doing much is there? They're not running the club into the ground, they're not asset-stripping, they would finance the club more in terms of signings if they were allowed to. Just look at who's trying to buy Bolton from whom to see how really bad things could be in that regard. Fair enough, I wouldn't mind different owners, I wouldn't mourn the loss of TF particularly, but I'd still take this lot over the majority of owners about to be honest.

Bare bones.

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McClaren gone - official on 18:11 - Apr 1 with 2344 viewsWestbourneR

McClaren gone - official on 16:21 - Apr 1 by qprd

Holloway's response is why he's no longer manager. classless, uncalled for and undisciplined

david mcintyre tweeted somethign to the effect that the board didnt like having a child at the wheel. brentford comments, his millwall antics... there's a reason he got the sack


Wasn't a huge fan of Ollie last time round but I don't see anything in what he said in that interview that was classless or out of line. He was shoddily treated by the club when he'd done exactly as they asked.

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McClaren gone - official on 18:12 - Apr 1 with 2338 viewsrsonist

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McClaren gone - official on 18:55 - Apr 1 with 2204 viewsPunteR

McClaren gone - official on 18:10 - Apr 1 by Antti_Heinola

Not sure who you're raging against here Paul. Very few fans would disagree TF (and Ruben, who never gets a mention despite being majority shareholder) have made a pig's ear out of a potentially great situation. But until someone better comes along with a wish to buy the club, there's not a lot of point in doing much is there? They're not running the club into the ground, they're not asset-stripping, they would finance the club more in terms of signings if they were allowed to. Just look at who's trying to buy Bolton from whom to see how really bad things could be in that regard. Fair enough, I wouldn't mind different owners, I wouldn't mourn the loss of TF particularly, but I'd still take this lot over the majority of owners about to be honest.


"Not sure who you're raging against here Paul"
I think you've just answered the question there Antti with your response.
"there's not a lot of point in doing much is there?"

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Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:15 - Apr 1 with 2126 viewsCiderwithRsie

Times saying SM could go this week... on 12:15 - Apr 1 by Northernr

Holloway and McClaren were both picked by the owners and LH and LF have had to get on with it. JFH you could lay at their door, but the last two managers have both been handed to them, and the case of Holloway handed to them against their wishes.


"(In)the case of Holloway handed to them against their wishes."

That's news to me and I'm surprised - I thought Holloway was about the only credible choice available to us at the time.

Do you know who they wanted instead? It'd be a clue as to who LF and LH would want this time (and therefore of whether they are getting their way, which I hope they do.)
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McClaren gone - official on 19:21 - Apr 1 with 2108 viewsCiderwithRsie

McClaren gone - official on 13:36 - Apr 1 by CamberleyR

And worse than that,only five managers (Jago, Venables, Smith, Francis and Holloway) account for about 23 of those years!


Can we be careful here, because if we're not careful I'm going to remember Steve Burtenshaw.

Bugger. Too late.
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Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:23 - Apr 1 with 2103 viewsPunteR

Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:15 - Apr 1 by CiderwithRsie

"(In)the case of Holloway handed to them against their wishes."

That's news to me and I'm surprised - I thought Holloway was about the only credible choice available to us at the time.

Do you know who they wanted instead? It'd be a clue as to who LF and LH would want this time (and therefore of whether they are getting their way, which I hope they do.)


Les didnt want Sherwood as Sherwood wanted assurances that he'll have money to spend. Cant see Sherwood wanting to come back.

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McClaren gone - official on 19:24 - Apr 1 with 2102 viewsDejR_vu

McClaren gone - official on 18:12 - Apr 1 by rsonist



Not a particularly sensible tweet imo. I’m sure he thinks the world of him but he’s just delivered 1 win in 15. Maybe better to pick the phone up and tell him rather than risk stirring it up by sticking it all over Twitter.

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Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:28 - Apr 1 with 2090 viewsCiderwithRsie

Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:23 - Apr 1 by PunteR

Les didnt want Sherwood as Sherwood wanted assurances that he'll have money to spend. Cant see Sherwood wanting to come back.


If true I make Les right on that.
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Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:32 - Apr 1 with 2071 viewsPunteR

Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:28 - Apr 1 by CiderwithRsie

If true I make Les right on that.


Les says it himself in an interview on the offish. Yeh i agree as well. Plus Sherwood is a total bellend.

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Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:35 - Apr 1 with 2055 viewsCiderwithRsie

Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:32 - Apr 1 by PunteR

Les says it himself in an interview on the offish. Yeh i agree as well. Plus Sherwood is a total bellend.


Ditto.
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Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:54 - Apr 1 with 1978 viewskensalriser

Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:32 - Apr 1 by PunteR

Les says it himself in an interview on the offish. Yeh i agree as well. Plus Sherwood is a total bellend.


'Total' doesn't seem quite sufficient in this context. How about 101% bellend?

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McClaren gone - official on 20:05 - Apr 1 with 1931 viewsrsonist

McClaren gone - official on 19:24 - Apr 1 by DejR_vu

Not a particularly sensible tweet imo. I’m sure he thinks the world of him but he’s just delivered 1 win in 15. Maybe better to pick the phone up and tell him rather than risk stirring it up by sticking it all over Twitter.


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Times saying SM could go this week... on 20:10 - Apr 1 with 1915 viewsrsonist

Times saying SM could go this week... on 19:32 - Apr 1 by PunteR

Les says it himself in an interview on the offish. Yeh i agree as well. Plus Sherwood is a total bellend.


Did he? Strange considering today's line is that Les had given Sherwood the job and then TF came in and kiboshed it because of the social media backlash.
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Times saying SM could go this week... on 20:27 - Apr 1 with 1859 viewsHunterhoop

Times saying SM could go this week... on 20:10 - Apr 1 by rsonist

Did he? Strange considering today's line is that Les had given Sherwood the job and then TF came in and kiboshed it because of the social media backlash.


Today’s line?? Where?? From who??
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