| If Dan James gets sold ... 19:48 - Jan 24 with 31965 views | Swans_16 |
... I will not be renewing my Season Ticket.
The full intent of the owners will be visible for all to see if it goes through. |  | | |  |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:49 - Jan 25 with 2055 views | longlostjack |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:24 - Jan 25 by WarwickHunt |
Can you tell me the point of spunking 7/800k on Declan Fûcking John? Didn't we already have a better option in our "huge squad".
Serious question. Not having a pop. |
No idea. Maybe some dodgy financial deal with Rangers? |  |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:54 - Jan 25 with 2040 views | QJumpingJack |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 14:48 - Jan 25 by _ |
But Dan doesn't want to go to Leeds. |
Dan James may not want to go to Leeds. We don't know.
His agent will want him to go to Leeds.
Pearlman, Levien and Kaplan will want him to go to Leeds.
It may not be Dan's decision. | | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:59 - Jan 25 with 2032 views | sainthelens |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:54 - Jan 25 by QJumpingJack |
Dan James may not want to go to Leeds. We don't know.
His agent will want him to go to Leeds.
Pearlman, Levien and Kaplan will want him to go to Leeds.
It may not be Dan's decision. |
I never wanted to go to my ex mother in law's on Xmas day, was never my decision. |  | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 19:02 - Jan 25 with 2027 views | Badlands |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:24 - Jan 25 by WarwickHunt |
Can you tell me the point of spunking 7/800k on Declan Fûcking John? Didn't we already have a better option in our "huge squad".
Serious question. Not having a pop. |
In fairness John should have worked.
When we bought him he was a
Current International (apparently that puts £10 million on the price of Dan!)
Played 25 games for Rangers the season before
Played 50+ Championship games
was 22
I think he's a complete waste of space but.... if those stats were put before us (and it wasn't John) most would have been reasonably optimistic.
At left back we didn't have a better option as it was expected Olsson would leave. |  |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 19:15 - Jan 25 with 2007 views | jasper_T |
Left back has been a problem position in the u23s for years, and we were especially desperate to get backup in place because Olsson was missing preseason due to World Cup commitments. | | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 19:19 - Jan 25 with 1997 views | jasper_T |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:30 - Jan 25 by MoscowJack |
I HONESTLY think that, given the chance to turn back the clock, they wouldn't have bough Celina, Declan John, Asoro or McKay.
I think they took the risk of buying them as they were far too sure that they'd get a lot, lot more for the players they were trying to sell.
We desperately needed heads coming in as so many had gone out, but I am 99% certain that they wouldn't have spent much at all last summer had they known how bad things were going to be once the window had closed. [Post edited 25 Jan 2019 18:52]
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I would hope they would think twice about Asoro, certainly. £2m and a significant wage for no meaningful contribution as yet (did he get the assist against Preston?)
Better yet if they're turning back the clock go back a full year and don't buy Andre Ayew. | | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:26 - Jan 25 with 1964 views | costalotta |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 16:50 - Jan 25 by _ |
So you can't tell me a single time from bygone eras that we've not been treated as consumers?.
Or even if the numerous perks we get now in a very expensive time to be a football fan was ever matched back then??
Not one?
But you still made the comment.
Poor show isn't it, our fans moaning about every single thing often with no basis whatsoever. |
Oh stop it! I’m not moaning ffs.
I tell what though...I was a thankful recipient of the paid for Sunderland tickets 18 months ago. A brilliant gesture by the players of the time. |  | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:32 - Jan 25 with 1957 views | LeonWasGod |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 19:02 - Jan 25 by Badlands |
In fairness John should have worked.
When we bought him he was a
Current International (apparently that puts £10 million on the price of Dan!)
Played 25 games for Rangers the season before
Played 50+ Championship games
was 22
I think he's a complete waste of space but.... if those stats were put before us (and it wasn't John) most would have been reasonably optimistic.
At left back we didn't have a better option as it was expected Olsson would leave. |
You’d expect the professionals running the club to go off more than wiki stats. A few on here who’d seen him play a few times warned us he was worse that what we had. I had no idea as I don’t ever recall seeing him play, but it’s a bit worrying when a few of us muppets on this forum have better judgement than the full time, professional experts in the club.
Still, useful backup, still young and may push on. |  | | |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:36 - Jan 25 with 1945 views | STID2017 |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 08:17 - Jan 25 by Jinxy |
One other factor though is what the player himself wants. If his head has been turned then most often it is a lose/lose situation if the player is not allowed to leave. If he were to leave to the likes of Leeds though, that would be worrying as DJ would obviously see them as a better prospect than us.
If however he went to a PL club then, well, although I think the move would be premature for him, you couldn't really blame him and that in itself would not fully reflect the share holder's desires and intentions, in my view. Hopefully he'll WANT to stay (and I think he should purely for his development alone). |
Leeds are on the up with a highly respected manager, being backed byvowners who expect success and a mix of very good youngsters and experienced talented players. Why wouldn't Dan see them as a better prospect.
Surely the most optimistic Swans fans can't see us as promotion material?
Even if we went up we'd struggle, where as I believe Leeds will do okay even with their current squad.
I think Dan should be worth a lot more thougj |  |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:40 - Jan 25 with 1941 views | _ |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 17:30 - Jan 25 by MoscowJack |
We're not comparing apples with apples, but Ollie was essentially our last standing striker. I expect that the offer didn't afford the owners the opportunity to sell and make a profit once a replacement had been signed.
People say "Ollie could have been sold" but we have absolutely no idea what the offer was, either.
We have cover in Dan's preferred position but I think we'd all agree that he's one of the first 4 or 5 names on the teamsheet at the moment and one of the few players we've got who actually get bums off seats when the ball gets to him.
If Dan goes, for anything less than absolutely silly money, then we know the Yanks are skint or have absolutely no intention of backing the manager. It's a pity as we're so close to the play offs..... |
Is this the same Dan James that hasn't started the last 4 or 5 games?
Right here, right now he's where he should be. And that is an understudy to Routs and Dyer with the potential to get in front of them.
But certainly not first 4 on the team-sheet. He's started 12 games in his whole bloody career FFS. |  |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:42 - Jan 25 with 1934 views | _ |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:24 - Jan 25 by WarwickHunt |
Can you tell me the point of spunking 7/800k on Declan Fûcking John? Didn't we already have a better option in our "huge squad".
Serious question. Not having a pop. |
Well the point in Declan is upon us right now. We're short and there's every chance he could be playing tomorrow.
He's not let us down and certainly didn't up in Hull when the dullards on here were having a pop. That was one of our best away performances for 70 mins | |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:44 - Jan 25 with 1929 views | _ |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:30 - Jan 25 by MoscowJack |
I HONESTLY think that, given the chance to turn back the clock, they wouldn't have bough Celina, Declan John, Asoro or McKay.
I think they took the risk of buying them as they were far too sure that they'd get a lot, lot more for the players they were trying to sell.
We desperately needed heads coming in as so many had gone out, but I am 99% certain that they wouldn't have spent much at all last summer had they known how bad things were going to be once the window had closed. [Post edited 25 Jan 2019 18:52]
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Doesn't stack up for me, that.
I don't think we're in bad shape at the moment, yes we could be in much better shape had we shifted some of the higher earners but it's all under control. | |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:45 - Jan 25 with 1926 views | Dr_Winston |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 18:54 - Jan 25 by QJumpingJack |
Dan James may not want to go to Leeds. We don't know.
His agent will want him to go to Leeds.
Pearlman, Levien and Kaplan will want him to go to Leeds.
It may not be Dan's decision. |
Slavery was abolished quite some time ago.
If James ends up at Leeds it will very much be his decision. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:47 - Jan 25 with 1920 views | _ |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:26 - Jan 25 by costalotta |
Oh stop it! I’m not moaning ffs.
I tell what though...I was a thankful recipient of the paid for Sunderland tickets 18 months ago. A brilliant gesture by the players of the time. |
Good man but can you be so bold as to retract that earlier statement then? | |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:49 - Jan 25 with 1915 views | _ |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:36 - Jan 25 by STID2017 |
Leeds are on the up with a highly respected manager, being backed byvowners who expect success and a mix of very good youngsters and experienced talented players. Why wouldn't Dan see them as a better prospect.
Surely the most optimistic Swans fans can't see us as promotion material?
Even if we went up we'd struggle, where as I believe Leeds will do okay even with their current squad.
I think Dan should be worth a lot more thougj |
If I was Dan and I was being selfish, I wouldn't want the Club I'm playing for to go up to the EPL.
Because, simply, he would't be playing football at all regularly. | |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 21:05 - Jan 25 with 1888 views | exiledclaseboy |
I can’t see James going anywhere. |  |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 21:07 - Jan 25 with 1877 views | QJumpingJack |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:45 - Jan 25 by Dr_Winston |
Slavery was abolished quite some time ago.
If James ends up at Leeds it will very much be his decision. |
Remember Stuart Roberts to Wycombe? He didn't want to go. | | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 21:20 - Jan 25 with 1856 views | Dr_Winston |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 21:07 - Jan 25 by QJumpingJack |
Remember Stuart Roberts to Wycombe? He didn't want to go. |
Nobody forced him to sign for them at gunpoint. Ultimately he chose to. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| If Dan James gets sold ... on 21:21 - Jan 25 with 1848 views | WarwickHunt |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:42 - Jan 25 by _ |
Well the point in Declan is upon us right now. We're short and there's every chance he could be playing tomorrow.
He's not let us down and certainly didn't up in Hull when the dullards on here were having a pop. That was one of our best away performances for 70 mins |
Doesn’t really explain why we spent around 800k on a player who is only in contention when we’re desperate and when other positions were much more of a priority.
Haven’t seen anything yet to convince me he was a worthwhile buy. I’d be delighted to be proved wrong but I’m not holding my breath. |  | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 22:04 - Jan 25 with 1792 views | jasper_T |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 20:36 - Jan 25 by STID2017 |
Leeds are on the up with a highly respected manager, being backed byvowners who expect success and a mix of very good youngsters and experienced talented players. Why wouldn't Dan see them as a better prospect.
Surely the most optimistic Swans fans can't see us as promotion material?
Even if we went up we'd struggle, where as I believe Leeds will do okay even with their current squad.
I think Dan should be worth a lot more thougj |
A highly respect manager who falls out with every club he manages, and backed by owners that fall out with every manager they appoint. It's a turbulent place up there.
He went away to Shrewsbury and was judged very quickly as not up to standard (as McBurnie said the other day, he's "terrible in training"). You'd figure Bielsa's a bit smarter but DJ knows starting anew isn't simple. He can ask Matt Grimes how he got on at Leeds. Or Connor at Boro.
He's a player still adapting to senior football, with no meaningful pedigree to recommend him. Hull and Swansea won't afford you as many chances to disappoint as a United academy label. Here he's played dozens of games with many of his teammates. They know what he's about and how to get the best out of him.
We can make the playoffs. Anyone in the playoffs can win them. We are "promotion material" in that sense, absolutely. | | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 22:05 - Jan 25 with 1793 views | Bluebird |
Sorry to butt in but has he been linked to anyone? | | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 22:43 - Jan 25 with 1747 views | WarwickHunt |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 22:05 - Jan 25 by Bluebird |
Sorry to butt in but has he been linked to anyone? |
Barca. | | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 22:52 - Jan 25 with 1740 views | TailGunner |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 22:04 - Jan 25 by jasper_T |
A highly respect manager who falls out with every club he manages, and backed by owners that fall out with every manager they appoint. It's a turbulent place up there.
He went away to Shrewsbury and was judged very quickly as not up to standard (as McBurnie said the other day, he's "terrible in training"). You'd figure Bielsa's a bit smarter but DJ knows starting anew isn't simple. He can ask Matt Grimes how he got on at Leeds. Or Connor at Boro.
He's a player still adapting to senior football, with no meaningful pedigree to recommend him. Hull and Swansea won't afford you as many chances to disappoint as a United academy label. Here he's played dozens of games with many of his teammates. They know what he's about and how to get the best out of him.
We can make the playoffs. Anyone in the playoffs can win them. We are "promotion material" in that sense, absolutely. |
Leeds are a huge club and a massive draw for a Yorkshire boy at this moment in time.
I hope he stays but look at the big picture. We are not at the table with any sort of offer. | | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 23:01 - Jan 25 with 1719 views | jasper_T |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 22:52 - Jan 25 by TailGunner |
Leeds are a huge club and a massive draw for a Yorkshire boy at this moment in time.
I hope he stays but look at the big picture. We are not at the table with any sort of offer. |
Neither are they by the sounds of it. | | | |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 23:09 - Jan 25 with 1701 views | TailGunner |
| If Dan James gets sold ... on 23:01 - Jan 25 by jasper_T |
Neither are they by the sounds of it. |
You listen to the jungle drums - the noise is coming south
Hope the kid can get sensible level headed advice.
But only one of these clubs currently have the ability, drive & desire to go up. | | | |
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