| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:49 - Feb 6 with 1470 views | Darran |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 13:34 - Feb 6 by TheResurrection |
You're not a Jack, neither is your boy, or your father.
The word Jack meant little before the football club and especially the scum making it famous.
Also I think most couldn't give two facks what your spare time conjures up for you, it's little worthwhile..
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Couldn’t agree more with this point.
If you weren’t born within spitting distance of the Vetch you aren’t as special as the bindipper.
You could go to every game home and away for 25 years but you still wouldn’t be a Jack according to the Merseyside Mess if you weren’t born in the Sandfields. |  |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:52 - Feb 6 with 1469 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:35 - Feb 6 by E20Jack |
Its also funny that in some years he allows himself two signings (if deemed unsuccessful) and in others just the one.
Anyone thinking that list was anything other than a cheap attempt to knock the overall transfer dealings of the club is simply very misguided.
It was rightly dismantled and was by no means a small point on the subject of the CEO's transfer performance - it was the whole debate. [Post edited 6 Feb 2018 15:37]
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You may find it funny, but the number of names picked out each financial year is a reflection of the actual transfer activity ion those periods.
Incredible bias, huh?
Get yourself informed, and come back to me: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/swansea-city/startseite/verein/2288 |  |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:52 - Feb 6 with 1468 views | swanforthemoney |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 10:01 - Feb 6 by BigPhilG |
Sold the club behind the trusts back and continues to milk £500K pit of the club each year. Made poor decision after poor decision hiring managers and signing players.
The facts are incontestable |
One can’t contest the list of players that were hired. They are facts.
Whether individual decisions were poor are opinions.
HJ must have made some good decisions as we moved from the fourth tier to the Premier League and stayed there for seven years whilst chronically undercapitalised and whilst competing with clubs whose benefactors have injected at least a hundred million. In some cases much, much more. |  |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:54 - Feb 6 with 1456 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:34 - Feb 6 by TheResurrection |
This is the original post Lisa and it had nothing to do with highest financial outlay and everything to do with knocking the "magician's" signings.
You are wrong here. |
And a few posts down I clarified the exact metric I was using.
What's the definition of marquee signing you are using again? You never mentioned. Or is that a secret as well? | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:57 - Feb 6 with 1446 views | E20Jack |
I do find it funny, also find your incorrect explanation funny.
That does not represent the transfer activity over that period, it represents a part of transfer activity over those periods. A part where in some years you decide to use one example and others you decide to use two.
It isnt difficult. |  |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:59 - Feb 6 with 1441 views | E20Jack |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:54 - Feb 6 by Shaky |
And a few posts down I clarified the exact metric I was using.
What's the definition of marquee signing you are using again? You never mentioned. Or is that a secret as well? |
Yeah after realising the metric you initially used (and defended) was ridiculous.
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:01 - Feb 6 with 1433 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:31 - Feb 6 by TheResurrection |
Just looking for the infamous marquee post from Shakeypaedia and found this gem.
Bob Bradley was more important a signing than the CEO as the wrong manager would almost certainly mean an end to their investment. That's kindergarten understanding. |
You clearly don't understand the difference between between talent and top management.
Let me spell it out for you.
Talent can be replaced by top managment.
Top management can be replaced by shareholders. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:03 - Feb 6 with 1427 views | E20Jack |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:01 - Feb 6 by Shaky |
You clearly don't understand the difference between between talent and top management.
Let me spell it out for you.
Talent can be replaced by top managment.
Top management can be replaced by shareholders. |
Can you guve us an example of when that has been the case in their other sports companies please Shakes? | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:03 - Feb 6 with 1428 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 15:59 - Feb 6 by E20Jack |
Yeah after realising the metric you initially used (and defended) was ridiculous.
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I realised the one I used was ridiculous and then defended it?
Another gem of pure nonsense from you.
Slow down, breathe, and then at least try to come up with something coherent. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:04 - Feb 6 with 1425 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:03 - Feb 6 by E20Jack |
Can you guve us an example of when that has been the case in their other sports companies please Shakes? |
Examples of where top management has been replaced by shareholders?
Are you kidding me? | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:05 - Feb 6 with 1421 views | E20Jack |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:03 - Feb 6 by Shaky |
I realised the one I used was ridiculous and then defended it?
Another gem of pure nonsense from you.
Slow down, breathe, and then at least try to come up with something coherent. |
Yes you defended what you believed was a marquee signing,then ou realised that parameter was not only wrong but ridiculous - you then changed it.
Stop squirming with little quips and debate like a grown up. You may have your own issues but stop taking that out on us. Deal with them. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:06 - Feb 6 with 1417 views | E20Jack |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:04 - Feb 6 by Shaky |
Examples of where top management has been replaced by shareholders?
Are you kidding me? |
Yes.
No.
(This is going to be a long night). [Post edited 6 Feb 2018 16:07]
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:08 - Feb 6 with 1410 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:05 - Feb 6 by E20Jack |
Yes you defended what you believed was a marquee signing,then ou realised that parameter was not only wrong but ridiculous - you then changed it.
Stop squirming with little quips and debate like a grown up. You may have your own issues but stop taking that out on us. Deal with them. |
I used a metric that was clear, precise and quantifiable.
You would like to use something sufficeintly vague so you can argue the toss.
Clear enough for you?
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:09 - Feb 6 with 1408 views | TheResurrection |
So in 14/15 you used Gomis when we signed
Siggy £10.1m
Fernandez £10m
Naughton £6m
Montero £5m
Cork £4m
Siggy went for £45m
Fernandez still here and worth the same
Naughton is too
Montero on loan (receiving a fee)
Cork sold for £10m
That's nearly £45m profit in the one year alone.
Stick your facking metrics up your ass son. |  |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:11 - Feb 6 with 1400 views | E20Jack |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:08 - Feb 6 by Shaky |
I used a metric that was clear, precise and quantifiable.
You would like to use something sufficeintly vague so you can argue the toss.
Clear enough for you?
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No You didn't. You used a metric that was one sided, designed to give an inaccurate picture and even if taken on face value not even accurate in the slightest.
I would like to use the whole picture not a hand picked portion.
Yes that is more than clear Shakes. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:12 - Feb 6 with 1392 views | TheResurrection |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:09 - Feb 6 by TheResurrection |
So in 14/15 you used Gomis when we signed
Siggy £10.1m
Fernandez £10m
Naughton £6m
Montero £5m
Cork £4m
Siggy went for £45m
Fernandez still here and worth the same
Naughton is too
Montero on loan (receiving a fee)
Cork sold for £10m
That's nearly £45m profit in the one year alone.
Stick your facking metrics up your ass son. |
Oh, and Fabianski came in then as well.
Priceless
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:14 - Feb 6 with 1386 views | E20Jack |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:09 - Feb 6 by TheResurrection |
So in 14/15 you used Gomis when we signed
Siggy £10.1m
Fernandez £10m
Naughton £6m
Montero £5m
Cork £4m
Siggy went for £45m
Fernandez still here and worth the same
Naughton is too
Montero on loan (receiving a fee)
Cork sold for £10m
That's nearly £45m profit in the one year alone.
Stick your facking metrics up your ass son. |
Dont be silly Chris, why use two 10 million pound successful signings when you can use one free transfer that was not particularly.
Metrics innit. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:16 - Feb 6 with 1378 views | TheResurrection |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:14 - Feb 6 by E20Jack |
Dont be silly Chris, why use two 10 million pound successful signings when you can use one free transfer that was not particularly.
Metrics innit. |
The one he argued was the highest financial outlay was A FREE TRANSFER FFS.
Hell hath no fury like a Dane scorned | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:20 - Feb 6 with 1364 views | E20Jack |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:16 - Feb 6 by TheResurrection |
The one he argued was the highest financial outlay was A FREE TRANSFER FFS.
Hell hath no fury like a Dane scorned |
Of course he did have massive fees attached but to think he was a greater financial outlay over the length of his contract than the likes of Siggy and Fernandez is ludicrous. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:21 - Feb 6 with 1359 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:09 - Feb 6 by TheResurrection |
So in 14/15 you used Gomis when we signed
Siggy £10.1m
Fernandez £10m
Naughton £6m
Montero £5m
Cork £4m
Siggy went for £45m
Fernandez still here and worth the same
Naughton is too
Montero on loan (receiving a fee)
Cork sold for £10m
That's nearly £45m profit in the one year alone.
Stick your facking metrics up your ass son. |
I didn't have data in my spreadsheet for the 14/15 financial year, becasue it wasn't relevant to the financial forecasts I have built. So sue me.
BWT, nor is that relevant to the discussion of whether Jenkins has made catastrophic decisions in the past couple of years.
See you have changed you mind about the value of tansfermarket, however. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:23 - Feb 6 with 1355 views | E20Jack |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:21 - Feb 6 by Shaky |
I didn't have data in my spreadsheet for the 14/15 financial year, becasue it wasn't relevant to the financial forecasts I have built. So sue me.
BWT, nor is that relevant to the discussion of whether Jenkins has made catastrophic decisions in the past couple of years.
See you have changed you mind about the value of tansfermarket, however. |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:24 - Feb 6 with 1350 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:16 - Feb 6 by TheResurrection |
The one he argued was the highest financial outlay was A FREE TRANSFER FFS.
Hell hath no fury like a Dane scorned |
That rich, your desperation is palpable. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:27 - Feb 6 with 1343 views | TheResurrection |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:21 - Feb 6 by Shaky |
I didn't have data in my spreadsheet for the 14/15 financial year, becasue it wasn't relevant to the financial forecasts I have built. So sue me.
BWT, nor is that relevant to the discussion of whether Jenkins has made catastrophic decisions in the past couple of years.
See you have changed you mind about the value of tansfermarket, however. |
No, i clicked it as you provided me with the link. I think some of those fees are wrong but if it's the school boy way to get through to you then so be it.
You've embarrassed yourself here mate. You old dåre. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:33 - Feb 6 with 1334 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:27 - Feb 6 by TheResurrection |
No, i clicked it as you provided me with the link. I think some of those fees are wrong but if it's the school boy way to get through to you then so be it.
You've embarrassed yourself here mate. You old dåre. |
I have just realised what has happened here.
You think I have gone out of my way to assemble some statistics on Transfers with the specific intent of making Jenkins look bad.
The reality is that I already had data lying in a spreadsheet from whenever the last accounts came out and I was making some forward projections. i used that.
The reason for the gap between your perception and reality is you are off your rocker, just as you have demonstrated on several occasions in this thread. | |
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| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:37 - Feb 6 with 1325 views | Shaky |
| Huw jenkins: Do Swans fans have him ALL wrong? on 16:33 - Feb 6 by Shaky |
I have just realised what has happened here.
You think I have gone out of my way to assemble some statistics on Transfers with the specific intent of making Jenkins look bad.
The reality is that I already had data lying in a spreadsheet from whenever the last accounts came out and I was making some forward projections. i used that.
The reason for the gap between your perception and reality is you are off your rocker, just as you have demonstrated on several occasions in this thread. |
And here's the proof (notice how the early data is flung together)
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