| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 22:30 - Dec 31 with 5454 views | Al_Bundy |
Grave yard of ambition indeed! Swansea inward thinking is nothing new. |  | |  |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 22:40 - Dec 31 with 5400 views | FerrieBodde |
christ.
i knew we were dead last in cumulative net spend for the last 3 windows, but i didn't know we were dead last for the past 5 years too |  | | |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 22:44 - Dec 31 with 5365 views | magicdaps10 |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 22:40 - Dec 31 by FerrieBodde |
christ.
i knew we were dead last in cumulative net spend for the last 3 windows, but i didn't know we were dead last for the past 5 years too |
So again, where has all the money gone?!
If they say Fairwood and landore then i will it ram it right up their rectums, each and every one of those money grabbing barstewards who have taken our club and turned it into a money making machine for themselves.
Hang your head in shame Huw, Dinnen,Katzen,Martin M, JVZ and any other clown i have forgotten. |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:04 - Dec 31 with 5275 views | Wingstandwood |
That table is rather staggering and truly raises the question! Where has the money gone? |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:06 - Dec 31 with 5253 views | porschejack |
You lot give him a nice time too , bless you all . | | | |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:14 - Dec 31 with 5211 views | Eilian |
That is really interesting!
If only we had some sort of share holders on the board to represent the fans that could give us a clear indication of what is going on......... | | | |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:17 - Dec 31 with 5192 views | NeathJack |
That table doesn't take into account expensive free transfers (if that makes sense) like Ayew, Fabianski and Gomis.
But even so... |  | | |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:17 - Dec 31 with 5186 views | fbreath |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:06 - Dec 31 by porschejack |
You lot give him a nice time too , bless you all . |
What did you do today to make a difference ? |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:27 - Dec 31 with 5124 views | Pacemaker |
A bit of a skewed table because we were 13th on spending in last five years and 12th highest in sales income. There is no way we are going to be able to spend hugely compared to the big teams.
So we spent more than WBA and Stoke who have been our peers in recent years and significantly more than Bournemouth. Then about £20m less than Leicester, Sunderland and Palace. Southampton spending almost twice what we spend somewhat knocks their academy being a supply line out of the window.
The table does not include Newcastle, Villa and others who spent a lot over the years.
Doesn't really show we haven't spent but does show we have sold rather well compared to others. |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 00:04 - Jan 1 with 5018 views | MyFinalHeaven |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:17 - Dec 31 by NeathJack |
That table doesn't take into account expensive free transfers (if that makes sense) like Ayew, Fabianski and Gomis.
But even so... |
And neither does it take it into account for all the other clubs. It's a fair table. |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 00:39 - Jan 1 with 4920 views | NeathJack |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 00:04 - Jan 1 by MyFinalHeaven |
And neither does it take it into account for all the other clubs. It's a fair table. |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 00:42 - Jan 1 with 4898 views | Joe_bradshaw |
We've spent a fortune paying off failed managers and their staff. |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 00:48 - Jan 1 with 4867 views | Eilian |
According to this then Hull have invested over £55M more in their squad over the last 5 years.
£82M difference between us and Sunderland.......
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 00:53 - Jan 1 with 4840 views | Chief |
Well...
Well with the 'free' transfer signings, that makes us slightly down on transfers. Now also add in that 80% of our incomings go on wages and there isn't much left. Along with that the training centres, the odd dividend and paying off managers...
By my calculations, that leaves us about even. So as much as I'd love to use this as stock to beat off the previous board, I don't think we can? |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 01:48 - Jan 1 with 4705 views | E20Jack |
Lets also not forget the amazing deal Huw struck with our managers agent for reasons only he knows, where we gifted him a chunky % of any profit from player sales, even those nothing to do with him or brought in way before he got here. Who knows what other bizarre deals he has struck with other agents to dwindle away any income. |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 07:06 - Jan 1 with 4592 views | MyFinalHeaven |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 00:39 - Jan 1 by NeathJack |
Indeed. |
Certainly. | |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 07:50 - Jan 1 with 4549 views | EasternJack |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:27 - Dec 31 by Pacemaker |
A bit of a skewed table because we were 13th on spending in last five years and 12th highest in sales income. There is no way we are going to be able to spend hugely compared to the big teams.
So we spent more than WBA and Stoke who have been our peers in recent years and significantly more than Bournemouth. Then about £20m less than Leicester, Sunderland and Palace. Southampton spending almost twice what we spend somewhat knocks their academy being a supply line out of the window.
The table does not include Newcastle, Villa and others who spent a lot over the years.
Doesn't really show we haven't spent but does show we have sold rather well compared to others. |
F you for being sensible.
Get with the program and drink the koolade already. Failing that, go out and get a subscription to the daily mail like the Tim foil hat brigade on here.
Our finances are fecked because we rely on 1 revenue stream - the gap has o be bridged through balancing transfer deals. A very precarious model. [Post edited 1 Jan 2017 7:53]
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 08:21 - Jan 1 with 4503 views | somersetsimon |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 00:53 - Jan 1 by Chief |
Well...
Well with the 'free' transfer signings, that makes us slightly down on transfers. Now also add in that 80% of our incomings go on wages and there isn't much left. Along with that the training centres, the odd dividend and paying off managers...
By my calculations, that leaves us about even. So as much as I'd love to use this as stock to beat off the previous board, I don't think we can? |
It's only a disgrace if the club was making a lots of profit over that period and was sitting on lots of cash in the bank. If our accounts show that we genuinely don't have the money, then there's not much we can do. |  | | |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 09:51 - Jan 1 with 4299 views | LeonWasGod |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 23:17 - Dec 31 by NeathJack |
That table doesn't take into account expensive free transfers (if that makes sense) like Ayew, Fabianski and Gomis.
But even so... |
And the ridiculously high wages relative to income. And the money peed up the wall on compensation. It looks like we needed to sell to just fund operating costs. That's where the small ground and p1ss poor commercial department has hurt us.
I would like to see how much has gone to the owners though. I know people are rightly p1ssed off with them, but surely there's only so much can be 'lost' to printing contracts and the like. We still have legal requirements to show all that in the accounts. |  | | |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 10:46 - Jan 1 with 4163 views | NeiltheTaylor |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 00:42 - Jan 1 by Joe_bradshaw |
We've spent a fortune paying off failed managers and their staff. |
Or our abortion transfers like Paloschi, Eder, Baston... | |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 11:00 - Jan 1 with 4115 views | Pacemaker |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 07:50 - Jan 1 by EasternJack |
F you for being sensible.
Get with the program and drink the koolade already. Failing that, go out and get a subscription to the daily mail like the Tim foil hat brigade on here.
Our finances are fecked because we rely on 1 revenue stream - the gap has o be bridged through balancing transfer deals. A very precarious model. [Post edited 1 Jan 2017 7:53]
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It's been said for sometime including by HJ but it doesn't fit the agenda of the" people in the know".
I don't think our recruitment on or off the field has been sensible, and the cheap option may turn out to be a massive error and cost a lot more in the long term. I don't think people have any real idea of what has been going on in the boardroom and the truth will come out with the accounts.
The reality is it was their money invested and their business, they took the plaudits they have to now accept the brickbats if they can't show they we're running the business in the best way for the long time security of the club.
The "our club" rubbish was just that, we are customers of a multi million pound business, fans of a money making machine like all fans we believe it is our club and as Wimbledon showed you can just be moved on the whim of an owner. | |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 11:26 - Jan 1 with 4012 views | Jokeren1943 |
Developing players in Swansea, is seen as a tool to get money, not as a tool to reinvest and make the Swansea squad stronger. Swansea have had succes with this in the short run (made money) but in the longer term it will allways be a failure.
Goalkeeper
Swansea has a great goalkeeper in Fab.
Defense
Swansea have traditional had a outstanding leader in defense with Williams. When the club knew for a long time (many years) Williams wanted to try something new, why not use 1-2 years to find a prober replacement before he leave. A good general never comes cheap. Spent 8-12 million on a new one.
Midfield
Swansea has allways lacked a real quality defensive midfielder in PL. A good strong defender linking up with the defense - and a player who could counter the fast counterattacks of the other teams. Swansea desperate need an experinced general on the midfield - with a brain. Dyer and Britton are over the hill, replace them with new players, don't just renew their contracts.
Attack
Swansea have beside Bony have never had a quality striker in PL. And Swansea have never had a capable backup striker. [Post edited 1 Jan 2017 11:28]
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 11:41 - Jan 1 with 3931 views | Watchman |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 11:26 - Jan 1 by Jokeren1943 |
Developing players in Swansea, is seen as a tool to get money, not as a tool to reinvest and make the Swansea squad stronger. Swansea have had succes with this in the short run (made money) but in the longer term it will allways be a failure.
Goalkeeper
Swansea has a great goalkeeper in Fab.
Defense
Swansea have traditional had a outstanding leader in defense with Williams. When the club knew for a long time (many years) Williams wanted to try something new, why not use 1-2 years to find a prober replacement before he leave. A good general never comes cheap. Spent 8-12 million on a new one.
Midfield
Swansea has allways lacked a real quality defensive midfielder in PL. A good strong defender linking up with the defense - and a player who could counter the fast counterattacks of the other teams. Swansea desperate need an experinced general on the midfield - with a brain. Dyer and Britton are over the hill, replace them with new players, don't just renew their contracts.
Attack
Swansea have beside Bony have never had a quality striker in PL. And Swansea have never had a capable backup striker. [Post edited 1 Jan 2017 11:28]
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Defence comments spot on
Midfield ask hj why Kante and Allen were not seen as viable signings
Forwards maybe if so much money was not wasted on compo, dividends etc the club could have afforded better back ups |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 11:43 - Jan 1 with 3918 views | jojaca |
I dont mind being bottom of this table, it shows we are a well run club. I would rather break even in Championship than be in debt of £50 million plus in Premier League.
We have had a good run of buying low and selling high and we are falling short of late. None of us could have imagined six seasons in Premier League and still maybe more if Clements can get the confidence back in the squad and a couple of welcome additions. |  |
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| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 13:20 - Jan 1 with 3754 views | awayjack |
| Net spend of all Premier League clubs in the last 5 years on 11:43 - Jan 1 by jojaca |
I dont mind being bottom of this table, it shows we are a well run club. I would rather break even in Championship than be in debt of £50 million plus in Premier League.
We have had a good run of buying low and selling high and we are falling short of late. None of us could have imagined six seasons in Premier League and still maybe more if Clements can get the confidence back in the squad and a couple of welcome additions. |
A well run club? Funny. |  | | |
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