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To me it looks like a Muslim school or mosque where they are teaching young Muslim women something or other? The prayer mats give it away a bit.
The only reason I'm asking for credence on this is that the thickies out there seem to think it's just an ordinary,regular,typical girl school of Manchester.
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A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:23 - Dec 9 by Lord_Bony
So which school was that second photo taken then?
To me it looks like a Muslim school or mosque where they are teaching young Muslim women something or other? The prayer mats give it away a bit.
The only reason I'm asking for credence on this is that the thickies out there seem to think it's just an ordinary,regular,typical girl school of Manchester.
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:00 - Dec 9 by Lohengrin
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Oh, I disagree.
I think that those who only see a distorted truth are much more blind.
You have shown a picture from the Manchester Islamic School for Girls to try to stir up hatred and to try to demonstrate that they don't try to mix with 'us'.
If you wanted to show a more balanced view of the school mixing in with the rest of the Manchester population you could easily have chosen others.
The girls from the school on a trip to see Man Utd play at Old Trafford:
Or you could show the girls from the school on their way to visit the European parliament in Brussels to learn about the EU and Britain's role in the EU:
Or you could have referenced the talk they received on November 9th of this year, where, and I quote from their own feed:
"Pupils listen to Jahan Mahmood, a Birmingham researcher, explaining the role that Muslims played for Britain and its allies during World War 2. Many Muslims in Albania in particular, died trying to protect the Jews from the Nazis. "There were 2.5 million Indians who fought in the war of which 600,000 were Muslim soldiers."
The problem with racists is that they are selective. This is a private school for Moslem girls and it is fairly obvious that it is not going to show a diverse section of the population.
One could equally show a picture from a private CofE establishment and you wouldn't see any diversity there either.
I disagree with faith schools - I believe that they don't represent modern society. But do everyone a favour and stop pretending that things are what they are not. That sort of disinformation does no one any good at all.
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A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:46 - Dec 9 with 7103 views
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:43 - Dec 9 by londonlisa2001
Oh, I disagree.
I think that those who only see a distorted truth are much more blind.
You have shown a picture from the Manchester Islamic School for Girls to try to stir up hatred and to try to demonstrate that they don't try to mix with 'us'.
If you wanted to show a more balanced view of the school mixing in with the rest of the Manchester population you could easily have chosen others.
The girls from the school on a trip to see Man Utd play at Old Trafford:
Or you could show the girls from the school on their way to visit the European parliament in Brussels to learn about the EU and Britain's role in the EU:
Or you could have referenced the talk they received on November 9th of this year, where, and I quote from their own feed:
"Pupils listen to Jahan Mahmood, a Birmingham researcher, explaining the role that Muslims played for Britain and its allies during World War 2. Many Muslims in Albania in particular, died trying to protect the Jews from the Nazis. "There were 2.5 million Indians who fought in the war of which 600,000 were Muslim soldiers."
The problem with racists is that they are selective. This is a private school for Moslem girls and it is fairly obvious that it is not going to show a diverse section of the population.
One could equally show a picture from a private CofE establishment and you wouldn't see any diversity there either.
I disagree with faith schools - I believe that they don't represent modern society. But do everyone a favour and stop pretending that things are what they are not. That sort of disinformation does no one any good at all.
It represents population displacement, Lisa. As such it is perfectly accurate. Now you are perfectly free to think that's fine, there are others who would lament the passing of a nation.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:50 - Dec 9 with 7093 views
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:43 - Dec 9 by londonlisa2001
Oh, I disagree.
I think that those who only see a distorted truth are much more blind.
You have shown a picture from the Manchester Islamic School for Girls to try to stir up hatred and to try to demonstrate that they don't try to mix with 'us'.
If you wanted to show a more balanced view of the school mixing in with the rest of the Manchester population you could easily have chosen others.
The girls from the school on a trip to see Man Utd play at Old Trafford:
Or you could show the girls from the school on their way to visit the European parliament in Brussels to learn about the EU and Britain's role in the EU:
Or you could have referenced the talk they received on November 9th of this year, where, and I quote from their own feed:
"Pupils listen to Jahan Mahmood, a Birmingham researcher, explaining the role that Muslims played for Britain and its allies during World War 2. Many Muslims in Albania in particular, died trying to protect the Jews from the Nazis. "There were 2.5 million Indians who fought in the war of which 600,000 were Muslim soldiers."
The problem with racists is that they are selective. This is a private school for Moslem girls and it is fairly obvious that it is not going to show a diverse section of the population.
One could equally show a picture from a private CofE establishment and you wouldn't see any diversity there either.
I disagree with faith schools - I believe that they don't represent modern society. But do everyone a favour and stop pretending that things are what they are not. That sort of disinformation does no one any good at all.
Great post.
End of this car crash of a thread.
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A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:55 - Dec 9 with 7082 views
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:46 - Dec 9 by Lohengrin
It represents population displacement, Lisa. As such it is perfectly accurate. Now you are perfectly free to think that's fine, there are others who would lament the passing of a nation.
So you are comparing an old photo of a Manchester school of the 50s to a modern day Muslim school for women that is no part of the British regular school curriculum....
I still don't understand the point you are making?
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"Per ardua ad astra"
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:43 - Dec 9 by londonlisa2001
Oh, I disagree.
I think that those who only see a distorted truth are much more blind.
You have shown a picture from the Manchester Islamic School for Girls to try to stir up hatred and to try to demonstrate that they don't try to mix with 'us'.
If you wanted to show a more balanced view of the school mixing in with the rest of the Manchester population you could easily have chosen others.
The girls from the school on a trip to see Man Utd play at Old Trafford:
Or you could show the girls from the school on their way to visit the European parliament in Brussels to learn about the EU and Britain's role in the EU:
Or you could have referenced the talk they received on November 9th of this year, where, and I quote from their own feed:
"Pupils listen to Jahan Mahmood, a Birmingham researcher, explaining the role that Muslims played for Britain and its allies during World War 2. Many Muslims in Albania in particular, died trying to protect the Jews from the Nazis. "There were 2.5 million Indians who fought in the war of which 600,000 were Muslim soldiers."
The problem with racists is that they are selective. This is a private school for Moslem girls and it is fairly obvious that it is not going to show a diverse section of the population.
One could equally show a picture from a private CofE establishment and you wouldn't see any diversity there either.
I disagree with faith schools - I believe that they don't represent modern society. But do everyone a favour and stop pretending that things are what they are not. That sort of disinformation does no one any good at all.
Excellent post.
And for the OP's information, I am against ALL religion having a role in providing education, be it Islam, C of E, Catholic, Jewish., Mormon, Church of the Holy Vegetable Collanders, or whatever.
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A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 16:01 - Dec 9 with 7071 views
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:43 - Dec 9 by londonlisa2001
Oh, I disagree.
I think that those who only see a distorted truth are much more blind.
You have shown a picture from the Manchester Islamic School for Girls to try to stir up hatred and to try to demonstrate that they don't try to mix with 'us'.
If you wanted to show a more balanced view of the school mixing in with the rest of the Manchester population you could easily have chosen others.
The girls from the school on a trip to see Man Utd play at Old Trafford:
Or you could show the girls from the school on their way to visit the European parliament in Brussels to learn about the EU and Britain's role in the EU:
Or you could have referenced the talk they received on November 9th of this year, where, and I quote from their own feed:
"Pupils listen to Jahan Mahmood, a Birmingham researcher, explaining the role that Muslims played for Britain and its allies during World War 2. Many Muslims in Albania in particular, died trying to protect the Jews from the Nazis. "There were 2.5 million Indians who fought in the war of which 600,000 were Muslim soldiers."
The problem with racists is that they are selective. This is a private school for Moslem girls and it is fairly obvious that it is not going to show a diverse section of the population.
One could equally show a picture from a private CofE establishment and you wouldn't see any diversity there either.
I disagree with faith schools - I believe that they don't represent modern society. But do everyone a favour and stop pretending that things are what they are not. That sort of disinformation does no one any good at all.
Just for balance here's an ordinary comprehensive school in East Londonistan.
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:46 - Dec 9 by Lohengrin
It represents population displacement, Lisa. As such it is perfectly accurate. Now you are perfectly free to think that's fine, there are others who would lament the passing of a nation.
No Lohengrin, it's not accurate.
And yes, there is population displacement. As I said in a thread yesterday, that has been caused by people like the young people in the first picture you showed (a) not having enough kids that pay into the system to support them and (b) not being prepared to accept a reduction in either standard of living or provision of a welfare state.
That has meant the young girls who attend the Islamic school's parents being brought here to support the pensions and healthcare provisions of the 1955 pupils.
And since it is a private Islamic school, with quite high fees, the reality is that some of the kids in your second pic probably have parent that are the surgeons that have saved the lives of some of the kids in your first pic.
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A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 16:05 - Dec 9 with 7059 views
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:55 - Dec 9 by Lord_Bony
So you are comparing an old photo of a Manchester school of the 50s to a modern day Muslim school for women that is no part of the British regular school curriculum....
I still don't understand the point you are making?
Yes. Yes I was comparing a Manchester school photograph from 1955 to a Manchester school photograph from 2015. It's exactly what it says on the tin.
You interpret it as is your wont.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 16:17 - Dec 9 with 7040 views
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 16:06 - Dec 9 by Lohengrin
Yes. Yes I was comparing a Manchester school photograph from 1955 to a Manchester school photograph from 2015. It's exactly what it says on the tin.
You interpret it as is your wont.
I also find faith schools of any denomination distasteful and divisive.
Nevertheless they are private schools whereby the pupils are normally educated to a very high standard with much better academic qualifications than regular state schools.
The fees are astronomical and paid privately....no strain on the British taxpayer.
Now if that was a typical class in a typical school you would have my full support...but it's not it's just inciting hatred I'm afraid.
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"Per ardua ad astra"
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 16:01 - Dec 9 by londonlisa2001
No Lohengrin, it's not accurate.
And yes, there is population displacement. As I said in a thread yesterday, that has been caused by people like the young people in the first picture you showed (a) not having enough kids that pay into the system to support them and (b) not being prepared to accept a reduction in either standard of living or provision of a welfare state.
That has meant the young girls who attend the Islamic school's parents being brought here to support the pensions and healthcare provisions of the 1955 pupils.
And since it is a private Islamic school, with quite high fees, the reality is that some of the kids in your second pic probably have parent that are the surgeons that have saved the lives of some of the kids in your first pic.
You can't do that. You can't start your reply by saying it wasn't accurate then in the second sentence agree.
As for the main thrust of your argument it's the same thesis I hear propounded time and again and I simply don't accept it. Are we really to believe that unless vast numbers of migrants are imported from backward countries then we are to starve to death in our dotage? I was leafing through the recently published McGuiness report on UK unemployment and when you look at the percentage stats for ethnic minorities it doesn't make for comfortable reading, yet still they come. Not in their tens, not in their hundreds, not in their thousands nor tens of thousands but by their hundreds of thousands.
The old maxim states that you don't reinforce failure. Here we actively celebrate it.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 16:53 - Dec 9 with 6991 views
A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015 on 15:23 - Dec 9 by Lord_Bony
So which school was that second photo taken then?
To me it looks like a Muslim school or mosque where they are teaching young Muslim women something or other? The prayer mats give it away a bit.
The only reason I'm asking for credence on this is that the thickies out there seem to think it's just an ordinary,regular,typical girl school of Manchester.
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