| you have got to give it to the Tories on 23:47 - Jun 20 with 2774 views | Swanzay |
The austerity marches today highlight that the Cons are are trying to increase the divide between the rich and unable and sick!
We live in scary times! |  | |  |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 17:09 - Jun 21 with 2620 views | Baglanswan1992 |
If I was poor, disabled or unable to get a job I would be very scared right now.
These groups are going to get hammered the next few years by the cuts. The rise in homelessness will go up massively.
I feel so for those people and I agree it is very scary times for all. |  | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 18:14 - Jun 21 with 2562 views | controversial_jack |
Hard times ahead for this country! | | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 18:35 - Jun 21 with 2520 views | Humpty |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 23:47 - Jun 20 by Swanzay |
The austerity marches today highlight that the Cons are are trying to increase the divide between the rich and unable and sick!
We live in scary times! |
We're all in it together, apparently. |  | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 18:45 - Jun 21 with 2501 views | icecoldjack |
IMO unless you have a few million n the Bank then you are classed as poor by this Government which means the sooner more people realise this the sooner people can start resisting .
The one thing that scares any Government is the people organised and putting their foot down, while i don't really like Russell Brand i respect him immensely for at least trying to use his popularity to affect some kind of change and awarness .
Everything that has happened the last 10 yrs and more has been done by design, War,Credit crunch ,Austerity etc,etc.
It's only the people that can change things but as long as we have those comfortable and not willing to sacrifice then we will continue to get shafted, can we change things without going through pain? no .
Does anybody want to go through pain? no. Most people are just trying to put food on the table and bring up their families, successive Governments have made sure this is the only focus for any man/woman from a working class backround and the longer the slow squeeze continues the harder it will get for anyone to stand up to it.
Both Labour and Conservative have contributed equally to the downfall of decent working class people, i hope and prey that people en mass start to say enough is enough but i also understand how hard it will be to do that when most have no job security,union protection,working contracts or savings in the Bank, very many people are2/3 pay checks away from going broke and losing everything, a situation that has been designed over a number of years and different regimes . |  | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 18:48 - Jun 21 with 2494 views | exiledclaseboy |
Give it two years and we'll all fully realise how much of a moderating influence the LibDems had on the last government. Watch this lot fly now implementing manifesto commitments they never thought they'd have to put into practice. |  |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 18:51 - Jun 21 with 2490 views | exiledclaseboy |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 18:45 - Jun 21 by icecoldjack |
IMO unless you have a few million n the Bank then you are classed as poor by this Government which means the sooner more people realise this the sooner people can start resisting .
The one thing that scares any Government is the people organised and putting their foot down, while i don't really like Russell Brand i respect him immensely for at least trying to use his popularity to affect some kind of change and awarness .
Everything that has happened the last 10 yrs and more has been done by design, War,Credit crunch ,Austerity etc,etc.
It's only the people that can change things but as long as we have those comfortable and not willing to sacrifice then we will continue to get shafted, can we change things without going through pain? no .
Does anybody want to go through pain? no. Most people are just trying to put food on the table and bring up their families, successive Governments have made sure this is the only focus for any man/woman from a working class backround and the longer the slow squeeze continues the harder it will get for anyone to stand up to it.
Both Labour and Conservative have contributed equally to the downfall of decent working class people, i hope and prey that people en mass start to say enough is enough but i also understand how hard it will be to do that when most have no job security,union protection,working contracts or savings in the Bank, very many people are2/3 pay checks away from going broke and losing everything, a situation that has been designed over a number of years and different regimes . |
Excellently put. | |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 19:33 - Jun 21 with 2445 views | Swanzay |
Its clear at the moment the non of the parties care about the "man in the street" they are all to busy worrying about their themselves, Labour isnt Labour any more, sadly Tony B kant saw to that! | | | |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 19:39 - Jun 21 with 2432 views | Jack_Meoff |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 18:45 - Jun 21 by icecoldjack |
IMO unless you have a few million n the Bank then you are classed as poor by this Government which means the sooner more people realise this the sooner people can start resisting .
The one thing that scares any Government is the people organised and putting their foot down, while i don't really like Russell Brand i respect him immensely for at least trying to use his popularity to affect some kind of change and awarness .
Everything that has happened the last 10 yrs and more has been done by design, War,Credit crunch ,Austerity etc,etc.
It's only the people that can change things but as long as we have those comfortable and not willing to sacrifice then we will continue to get shafted, can we change things without going through pain? no .
Does anybody want to go through pain? no. Most people are just trying to put food on the table and bring up their families, successive Governments have made sure this is the only focus for any man/woman from a working class backround and the longer the slow squeeze continues the harder it will get for anyone to stand up to it.
Both Labour and Conservative have contributed equally to the downfall of decent working class people, i hope and prey that people en mass start to say enough is enough but i also understand how hard it will be to do that when most have no job security,union protection,working contracts or savings in the Bank, very many people are2/3 pay checks away from going broke and losing everything, a situation that has been designed over a number of years and different regimes . |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 21:03 - Jun 21 with 2352 views | jackb |
W*nkers, the lot of em! |  | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 21:28 - Jun 21 with 2316 views | Swanzay |
The shi t certainly has not hit the fan yet! | | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 21:33 - Jun 21 with 2309 views | builthjack |
It's going to get worse for sure |  |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 21:38 - Jun 21 with 2296 views | LeonisGod |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 18:45 - Jun 21 by icecoldjack |
IMO unless you have a few million n the Bank then you are classed as poor by this Government which means the sooner more people realise this the sooner people can start resisting .
The one thing that scares any Government is the people organised and putting their foot down, while i don't really like Russell Brand i respect him immensely for at least trying to use his popularity to affect some kind of change and awarness .
Everything that has happened the last 10 yrs and more has been done by design, War,Credit crunch ,Austerity etc,etc.
It's only the people that can change things but as long as we have those comfortable and not willing to sacrifice then we will continue to get shafted, can we change things without going through pain? no .
Does anybody want to go through pain? no. Most people are just trying to put food on the table and bring up their families, successive Governments have made sure this is the only focus for any man/woman from a working class backround and the longer the slow squeeze continues the harder it will get for anyone to stand up to it.
Both Labour and Conservative have contributed equally to the downfall of decent working class people, i hope and prey that people en mass start to say enough is enough but i also understand how hard it will be to do that when most have no job security,union protection,working contracts or savings in the Bank, very many people are2/3 pay checks away from going broke and losing everything, a situation that has been designed over a number of years and different regimes . |
I'm not sure what the average person can do to change anything to be honest. What's your solution? |  | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 21:40 - Jun 21 with 2296 views | trampie |
Its frightening times for a lot of ordinary people, I'm glad my conscience is clear as I voted for an anti austerity party. |  |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 23:01 - Jun 21 with 2240 views | cwrw |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 18:45 - Jun 21 by icecoldjack |
IMO unless you have a few million n the Bank then you are classed as poor by this Government which means the sooner more people realise this the sooner people can start resisting .
The one thing that scares any Government is the people organised and putting their foot down, while i don't really like Russell Brand i respect him immensely for at least trying to use his popularity to affect some kind of change and awarness .
Everything that has happened the last 10 yrs and more has been done by design, War,Credit crunch ,Austerity etc,etc.
It's only the people that can change things but as long as we have those comfortable and not willing to sacrifice then we will continue to get shafted, can we change things without going through pain? no .
Does anybody want to go through pain? no. Most people are just trying to put food on the table and bring up their families, successive Governments have made sure this is the only focus for any man/woman from a working class backround and the longer the slow squeeze continues the harder it will get for anyone to stand up to it.
Both Labour and Conservative have contributed equally to the downfall of decent working class people, i hope and prey that people en mass start to say enough is enough but i also understand how hard it will be to do that when most have no job security,union protection,working contracts or savings in the Bank, very many people are2/3 pay checks away from going broke and losing everything, a situation that has been designed over a number of years and different regimes . |
Top post there |  | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 23:03 - Jun 21 with 2239 views | blueytheblue |
A friend of my wife was on the anti austerity march. Carrying a Gucci bag. Go figure.
Every party has parasites. Look at the way the Kinnocks milked the EU gravy train.
I just have the feeling people on the march lacked the self awareness to realise Charlotte Church berated having to pay 40% top rate tax previously and has suddenly become a political rabble rouser when she's woken up to the fact her career such as it was is over. Russell Brand? Utter lolworthy. | |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 00:35 - Jun 22 with 2194 views | Banosswan |
I do enjoy the planet swans lefty army. |  |
| Ever since my son was... never conceived, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws. | | Poll: | How do you like your steak? |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 04:05 - Jun 22 with 2169 views | Humpty |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 23:03 - Jun 21 by blueytheblue |
A friend of my wife was on the anti austerity march. Carrying a Gucci bag. Go figure.
Every party has parasites. Look at the way the Kinnocks milked the EU gravy train.
I just have the feeling people on the march lacked the self awareness to realise Charlotte Church berated having to pay 40% top rate tax previously and has suddenly become a political rabble rouser when she's woken up to the fact her career such as it was is over. Russell Brand? Utter lolworthy. |
What exactly is wrong with someone attending an anti austerity protest with an expensive handbag? People with money are allowed to protest on behalf of the poor. Tell me Bluey, do you think that rich people should not be allowed to protest on behalf of the poor? If this lady decides to spend her money on silly expensive handbags she has no right to care or worry for those less fortunate than her?
And as for Charlotte Church you do realise that the right wing press have dragged that comment from a very long time ago. In fact from when she was not allowed to vote because she was a child. Guess what. Someones political views sometimes change from their teens to when they are thirty years old. Thank god.
Do you think everyone should be judged on what they said when they were under the voting age Bluey? Or are are you now desperately looking for another barrel you could try scraping the bottom of?
A women with an expensive handbag cares about poor people and someone now has a different view from the one they had as a child.
What shocking facts is the editor of the Daily Mail going to tell you tomorrow? | | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 06:59 - Jun 22 with 2135 views | Highjack |
I wish someone would come up with a proper definition for the word 'poor'. |  |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 12:01 - Jun 22 with 2019 views | Batterseajack |
Have I read this right, she's got three jobs paying £33,000 a year?
If that's the case, the salary for each of those jobs is clearly not high enough. Its barely higher than what my graduate colleagues earn. | | | |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 19:10 - Jun 22 with 1912 views | blueytheblue |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 04:05 - Jun 22 by Humpty |
What exactly is wrong with someone attending an anti austerity protest with an expensive handbag? People with money are allowed to protest on behalf of the poor. Tell me Bluey, do you think that rich people should not be allowed to protest on behalf of the poor? If this lady decides to spend her money on silly expensive handbags she has no right to care or worry for those less fortunate than her?
And as for Charlotte Church you do realise that the right wing press have dragged that comment from a very long time ago. In fact from when she was not allowed to vote because she was a child. Guess what. Someones political views sometimes change from their teens to when they are thirty years old. Thank god.
Do you think everyone should be judged on what they said when they were under the voting age Bluey? Or are are you now desperately looking for another barrel you could try scraping the bottom of?
A women with an expensive handbag cares about poor people and someone now has a different view from the one they had as a child.
What shocking facts is the editor of the Daily Mail going to tell you tomorrow? |
I'd say taking a Gucci bag there takes the piss just a little bit.
Charlotte Church's comment about begrudging paying 40% tax was a long time ago? Hmm. Not really that long ago but hey ho. It was on HIGNFY if I recall correctly within the last few years.
if you actually knew of the Church family you'd laugh at the faux pretence. The way her mum preened around Pontcanna, insulting my handicapped father one day in particular showed mass empathy for those worse off after all. A cynic would point out the numerous failed buisnesses Charlotte set her mum up in handily reduced the amount of tax Charlotte needed to pay too.
Church is looking for publicity, nothing more nothing less. Followed the Posh and Becks bandwagon. Now following the Brand bandwagon to get her name back in the spotlight. After all, singing career dead. The debacle that was her chat show on Channel 4 means even the BBC won't want her hosting anything.
EDIT : And don't get me started on her businesses now that have addresses of an accountancy firm specialising in tax avoidance... [Post edited 22 Jun 2015 19:20]
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 19:21 - Jun 22 with 1901 views | Groo |
It's difficult.
I agree witht he government in that people not working should have more incentive to find a job, too many people, and I used to share a house with some, refuse to work because the work they can get they feel is below them or they get more by claiming.
Just too lazy to get out of bed, being paid for by the honest folk who do work. These people have no self esteem and are just parasites on all of us.
The problem I feel is when they try to hit these people they end up hitting people who genuingly do have problems and should be assessed and treated differently. |  |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 20:37 - Jun 22 with 1865 views | blueytheblue |
There's always collateral damage, sadly.
Building industry takes the piss - so tax laws brought in as a consequence that hit others.
The problem too many on the left / thick celebs fail to grasp is things need to be paid for.
It's not bankers fault Greece is in the s&&& - it's the fault of the Greek people who routinely indulge in cash in hand work without paying taxes. Want the nice pensions, want the infrastructure, just want someone else to pay for it.
The benefits system is needed for those genuinely in need. It should never be a catchall for people who simply don't want to work and contribute. People complain about the benefits cap yet that figure is above the average salary, I do believe? So no incentive to work there.
There's massive inefficiencies that can be addressed for savings. Prescriptions, for example. I suffer from hayfever, manageable with over the counter stuff. GP wanted to prescribe instead, meaning the NHS pay for things I can easily buy myself.
I'm in a position where I could hire the tax avoidance accountants Church uses. I choose not to because I'm happy to pay slightly more than I should - one of my sons has special needs so I'm happy to contribute. | |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 21:03 - Jun 22 with 1849 views | epaul |
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| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| you have got to give it to the Tories on 21:06 - Jun 22 with 1848 views | Groo |
| you have got to give it to the Tories on 20:37 - Jun 22 by blueytheblue |
There's always collateral damage, sadly.
Building industry takes the piss - so tax laws brought in as a consequence that hit others.
The problem too many on the left / thick celebs fail to grasp is things need to be paid for.
It's not bankers fault Greece is in the s&&& - it's the fault of the Greek people who routinely indulge in cash in hand work without paying taxes. Want the nice pensions, want the infrastructure, just want someone else to pay for it.
The benefits system is needed for those genuinely in need. It should never be a catchall for people who simply don't want to work and contribute. People complain about the benefits cap yet that figure is above the average salary, I do believe? So no incentive to work there.
There's massive inefficiencies that can be addressed for savings. Prescriptions, for example. I suffer from hayfever, manageable with over the counter stuff. GP wanted to prescribe instead, meaning the NHS pay for things I can easily buy myself.
I'm in a position where I could hire the tax avoidance accountants Church uses. I choose not to because I'm happy to pay slightly more than I should - one of my sons has special needs so I'm happy to contribute. |
Talking about the Greeks, I read somewhere that most of their debt problem was brought on by the 2nd world war, where the nazi's forced them to 'loan' billions to the nazi war effort, effectively bankrupting them. | |
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