| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? 19:10 - Apr 1 with 7585 views | dalestats |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 22:14 - Apr 4 with 2103 views | R17ALE |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 22:00 - Apr 4 by TalkingSutty |
It could be a long wait. |
I disagree. Labour supporters are usually very quick to present the benefits of a Labour Government.
I await the debate!
If SandyLaner1 can get a gif of Ed Balls nodding like the Churchill dog in the background, accompanying the debate, he will become my favourite poster! |  |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 23:43 - Apr 4 with 2049 views | D_Alien |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 22:14 - Apr 4 by R17ALE |
I disagree. Labour supporters are usually very quick to present the benefits of a Labour Government.
I await the debate!
If SandyLaner1 can get a gif of Ed Balls nodding like the Churchill dog in the background, accompanying the debate, he will become my favourite poster! |
"The Tory plan for getting us out of recession can't work"
Erm... yes it has.
"Cost of living crisis"
Record car sales
What's next? When even Len McCluskey admits that defeat for Labour at the next general election could mean the end of the party, what's the f**king point Ed? |  |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 00:02 - Apr 5 with 2032 views | ColDale |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 23:43 - Apr 4 by D_Alien |
"The Tory plan for getting us out of recession can't work"
Erm... yes it has.
"Cost of living crisis"
Record car sales
What's next? When even Len McCluskey admits that defeat for Labour at the next general election could mean the end of the party, what's the f**king point Ed? |
but the likes of McCluskey are political dinosaurs these days,, and his bitterness is down to that very fact. There is no place for a Union led Labour party any more - it's completely unelectable. But then that's part of the problem. At the last leadership contest, the David v Ed battle was won by Ed cosying up the Unions in a faustian pact where repayment is now being asked, and the Labour party has never recovered from that.
Given the suicide of the Lib Dems, this has probably been the easiest time for a Labour party in opposition, but chances are that they've blown this opportunity. As a Labour party supporter, and as someone who will still vote Labour in Rochdale, even I don't have confidence in the current crop. Any party wanting power now has to abandon traditional values and seek to win the marginals, which was 90% of Blair's success. Being in bed with the Unions will always count against Labour and if the likes of McCluskey are threatening to launch their own party, then so be it. We've seen it with Scargill and the other Gorgeous George, and it's not had any real impact.
A Labour Government can work, in the same way appointing a youth manager can work. It's all about whether you get a Keith Hill or a Steve Eyre. |  | | |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 02:29 - Apr 5 with 2002 views | YadHoDale |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 21:38 - Apr 4 by R17ALE |
This is a cross into the box. You are Lyndon, Matt Dickens is the keeper!
I know you are left of centre and I am right of centre.
I'm open to debate. I could change my open mind.
Persuade me! In less than 300 words why Britain would be better off under Labour after the next election.
Other notable lefties like Col, Dale Pea, Dorset, anyone, are equally welcome to contribute. I expect any answers to encompass domestic and foreign policy and especially an economic argument, as to what Labour bring to the table as opposed to what the Conservatives bring to the table.
I look forward to some interesting views. |
Replying to your paragraphs in order:
1. Nice try, but no dice. Past players are irrelevant.
2. Immodium, my dear Watson.
3. Your mind is about as open as Jean Alexander's legs.
4. Who are you to set the rules for debate?
5. They can speak for themselves. And no doubt more effectively than the gibberings of a Central Office sock-puppet, lost without a script to follow.
6. If you pass your baton on to "49th Season" of this parish, you might get some. He/she managed to put over their viewpoint succinctly, and without patronising asides. They interest me, you don't. |  | | |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 07:13 - Apr 5 with 1985 views | R17ALE |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 02:29 - Apr 5 by YadHoDale |
Replying to your paragraphs in order:
1. Nice try, but no dice. Past players are irrelevant.
2. Immodium, my dear Watson.
3. Your mind is about as open as Jean Alexander's legs.
4. Who are you to set the rules for debate?
5. They can speak for themselves. And no doubt more effectively than the gibberings of a Central Office sock-puppet, lost without a script to follow.
6. If you pass your baton on to "49th Season" of this parish, you might get some. He/she managed to put over their viewpoint succinctly, and without patronising asides. They interest me, you don't. |
And there, dear electorate, is the case for Labour!
Vote wisely. | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 08:52 - Apr 5 with 1955 views | zxcvbnm |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 07:13 - Apr 5 by R17ALE |
And there, dear electorate, is the case for Labour!
Vote wisely. |
I will chose wisely, I can guarantee one thing it won't be for the present government.
George Osborne, a clueless puppet led by his civil servants and a mouthpiece for his Eton buddy
Jeremy hunt, responsible for cutting nurses and increasing doctors workload whilst managers stay in their ivory towers
Michael gove, destroying education continuously changing the goalposts
Theresa May, successful in helping deport a 19 year old very quickly but fails to deport high profile security risks quickly
Conservative party is a jolly for the public school goons who have a silver spoon in there mouths and don't know what it's like to live in the real world. A bunch if millionaires who line their own pockets and aren't interested in the average man in the street. Just a shame the Labour Party are led by the wrong brother. [Post edited 5 Apr 2014 8:53]
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 09:08 - Apr 5 with 1949 views | libertinedreamer |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 08:52 - Apr 5 by zxcvbnm |
I will chose wisely, I can guarantee one thing it won't be for the present government.
George Osborne, a clueless puppet led by his civil servants and a mouthpiece for his Eton buddy
Jeremy hunt, responsible for cutting nurses and increasing doctors workload whilst managers stay in their ivory towers
Michael gove, destroying education continuously changing the goalposts
Theresa May, successful in helping deport a 19 year old very quickly but fails to deport high profile security risks quickly
Conservative party is a jolly for the public school goons who have a silver spoon in there mouths and don't know what it's like to live in the real world. A bunch if millionaires who line their own pockets and aren't interested in the average man in the street. Just a shame the Labour Party are led by the wrong brother. [Post edited 5 Apr 2014 8:53]
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What makes you think Labour are not led by the same millionaires? Chuk Unume (or however you spell his name) is a multi millionaire, as is millibland. Harriet Harman (the pedophile rights campaigner), i could go on and on.
To quote Churchill 'For a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket trying to lift himself up by the handle.' | | | |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 09:11 - Apr 5 with 1949 views | R17ALE |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 08:52 - Apr 5 by zxcvbnm |
I will chose wisely, I can guarantee one thing it won't be for the present government.
George Osborne, a clueless puppet led by his civil servants and a mouthpiece for his Eton buddy
Jeremy hunt, responsible for cutting nurses and increasing doctors workload whilst managers stay in their ivory towers
Michael gove, destroying education continuously changing the goalposts
Theresa May, successful in helping deport a 19 year old very quickly but fails to deport high profile security risks quickly
Conservative party is a jolly for the public school goons who have a silver spoon in there mouths and don't know what it's like to live in the real world. A bunch if millionaires who line their own pockets and aren't interested in the average man in the street. Just a shame the Labour Party are led by the wrong brother. [Post edited 5 Apr 2014 8:53]
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But Michael Gove has got magic toes. It must be true, the Sandy Laners sing it every week!! | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 09:27 - Apr 5 with 1934 views | D_Alien |
"George Osborne, a clueless puppet led by his civil servants and a mouthpiece for his Eton buddy
Jeremy hunt, responsible for cutting nurses and increasing doctors workload whilst managers stay in their ivory towers"
Do you eat propaganda for breakfast? | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 09:36 - Apr 5 with 1918 views | zxcvbnm |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 09:08 - Apr 5 by libertinedreamer |
What makes you think Labour are not led by the same millionaires? Chuk Unume (or however you spell his name) is a multi millionaire, as is millibland. Harriet Harman (the pedophile rights campaigner), i could go on and on.
To quote Churchill 'For a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket trying to lift himself up by the handle.' |
Of that I don't doubt politicians do tend to have a few quid. | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 09:37 - Apr 5 with 1917 views | zxcvbnm |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 09:27 - Apr 5 by D_Alien |
"George Osborne, a clueless puppet led by his civil servants and a mouthpiece for his Eton buddy
Jeremy hunt, responsible for cutting nurses and increasing doctors workload whilst managers stay in their ivory towers"
Do you eat propaganda for breakfast? |
It's called advertising bull5h1t
True
But still advertising bull5h1t | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 11:54 - Apr 5 with 1870 views | 49thseason |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 08:52 - Apr 5 by zxcvbnm |
I will chose wisely, I can guarantee one thing it won't be for the present government.
George Osborne, a clueless puppet led by his civil servants and a mouthpiece for his Eton buddy
Jeremy hunt, responsible for cutting nurses and increasing doctors workload whilst managers stay in their ivory towers
Michael gove, destroying education continuously changing the goalposts
Theresa May, successful in helping deport a 19 year old very quickly but fails to deport high profile security risks quickly
Conservative party is a jolly for the public school goons who have a silver spoon in there mouths and don't know what it's like to live in the real world. A bunch if millionaires who line their own pockets and aren't interested in the average man in the street. Just a shame the Labour Party are led by the wrong brother. [Post edited 5 Apr 2014 8:53]
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For the record Jeremy Hunt attended Charterhouse
George Osborne attended St Paul's
They both attended Oxford Magdalen as did David Cameron and Boris Johnson
According to the workforce data from the Health and Social Care Information Centre, health service hospitals in England are now employing more nurses than at any point since September 2009.
The Conservative party receives most of its votes from A, B and C1 categories whereas Labour depends much more on C2 and DE voters, interestingly women are more likely to vote Labour or "other" and as you get older, the Conservative party is more attractive. The idea that the Conservative party is not interested in the "average man in the street" is simply untrue. Indeed as the National demographic turns towards a larger proportion of older people and as more women find employment, it's likely that the Conservative share of the vote will increase, probably at the expense of "other" parties particularly in the North.
Nationally, Labour’s support is down, from 52% in 1951 to 38% in 2010. But it has not gone to the Tories. The net swing between 1951 and 2010 was 1% to Labour in the North — but 5% to the Tories in the rest of England. |  | | |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 12:38 - Apr 5 with 1847 views | zxcvbnm |
Doesn't stop nurses saying how impossible there work conditions are. Mental health in particular is understaffed. Hospitals are in debt and you're more likely to die on admittance to hospital than in previous years particularly if you are unfortunate enough to become unwell at the weekend
Polls of nurses and teachers would be strongly anti government.
Shame is labour are a mess | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 13:10 - Apr 5 with 1825 views | libertinedreamer |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 12:38 - Apr 5 by zxcvbnm |
Doesn't stop nurses saying how impossible there work conditions are. Mental health in particular is understaffed. Hospitals are in debt and you're more likely to die on admittance to hospital than in previous years particularly if you are unfortunate enough to become unwell at the weekend
Polls of nurses and teachers would be strongly anti government.
Shame is labour are a mess |
Pfi is what is killing hospitals. Who brought that about again? | | | |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 13:13 - Apr 5 with 1822 views | D_Alien |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 12:38 - Apr 5 by zxcvbnm |
Doesn't stop nurses saying how impossible there work conditions are. Mental health in particular is understaffed. Hospitals are in debt and you're more likely to die on admittance to hospital than in previous years particularly if you are unfortunate enough to become unwell at the weekend
Polls of nurses and teachers would be strongly anti government.
Shame is labour are a mess |
Since I've worked in the NHS since 1981, I can tell you that your statement "you're more likely to die on admittance to hospital than in previous years particularly if you are unfortunate to become unwell at weekend" is the absolute reversal of the facts.
If you knew what actually went on in hospitals back in the 1980's it'd make you feel unwell enough to warrant an emergency admission.
Propaganda? Bullshit?
I prefer facts. I eat them for breakfast.
*Edit: whilst not restricted to hospital admission alone, the chart in the link below gives a clear illustration of the falling death rate through illnesses amenable to NHS treatment as a whole
http://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/data-and-charts/health-care-amenable-mortality-e
Another fact - the number of in-patient beds is reducing quite simply because if you've got an illness that can be treated out of hospital, then it should be. And, when you're seriously ill, you'd want to be treated by experts, not generalists. That's why hospitals are concentrating specialist services in major centres, where the surgeons and physicians get to see lots of people with similar health problems. Being seen in a local hospital by a medic who sees someone with a particular condition once in a blue moon and hasn't got a clue how to deal with it is the major reason why services are now being centralised and death rates are falling across the board, not because the government likes cutting beds or closing hospitals. I know that's how I'd prefer myself and my relatives to be treated.
But of course, lots of people are just taken in by the Labour propaganda on "Tory NHS cuts" - a cheap and totally false headline. Unfortunately, some people then go out and vote on that basis, thinking they're helping to "protect local hospitals" or similar nonsense. [Post edited 5 Apr 2014 14:10]
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 13:39 - Apr 6 with 1687 views | zxcvbnm |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 13:13 - Apr 5 by D_Alien |
Since I've worked in the NHS since 1981, I can tell you that your statement "you're more likely to die on admittance to hospital than in previous years particularly if you are unfortunate to become unwell at weekend" is the absolute reversal of the facts.
If you knew what actually went on in hospitals back in the 1980's it'd make you feel unwell enough to warrant an emergency admission.
Propaganda? Bullshit?
I prefer facts. I eat them for breakfast.
*Edit: whilst not restricted to hospital admission alone, the chart in the link below gives a clear illustration of the falling death rate through illnesses amenable to NHS treatment as a whole
http://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/data-and-charts/health-care-amenable-mortality-e
Another fact - the number of in-patient beds is reducing quite simply because if you've got an illness that can be treated out of hospital, then it should be. And, when you're seriously ill, you'd want to be treated by experts, not generalists. That's why hospitals are concentrating specialist services in major centres, where the surgeons and physicians get to see lots of people with similar health problems. Being seen in a local hospital by a medic who sees someone with a particular condition once in a blue moon and hasn't got a clue how to deal with it is the major reason why services are now being centralised and death rates are falling across the board, not because the government likes cutting beds or closing hospitals. I know that's how I'd prefer myself and my relatives to be treated.
But of course, lots of people are just taken in by the Labour propaganda on "Tory NHS cuts" - a cheap and totally false headline. Unfortunately, some people then go out and vote on that basis, thinking they're helping to "protect local hospitals" or similar nonsense. [Post edited 5 Apr 2014 14:10]
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I disagree with you on every fact there, I have friends and relatives who work in the NHS and they are understaffed at weekends, mortality rates are higher.
There is gross underspending and understaffing in the NHS and this is highlights time and time again in reports.
Lets face it the tories will try and spin positives the labour party negatives.
truth is probably somewhere in between the two.
Facts is the people I know in the NHS haven't a good word to say about the way it is run, they do say about the lack of staff, the lack of money and the lack of morale | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 14:44 - Apr 6 with 1657 views | D_Alien |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 13:39 - Apr 6 by zxcvbnm |
I disagree with you on every fact there, I have friends and relatives who work in the NHS and they are understaffed at weekends, mortality rates are higher.
There is gross underspending and understaffing in the NHS and this is highlights time and time again in reports.
Lets face it the tories will try and spin positives the labour party negatives.
truth is probably somewhere in between the two.
Facts is the people I know in the NHS haven't a good word to say about the way it is run, they do say about the lack of staff, the lack of money and the lack of morale |
Yes, mortality rates at weekends tend to be higher, but that's not what you claimed - you claimed that death rates had gone up in the NHS overall, which they haven't. And even if rates are higher for patients admitted at weekends, they're still falling compared with rates for those admitted at weekends in the past.
So I'm afraid that you, your friends and your relatives are simply wrong. But is it any wonder, when people are so easily taken in by headline propaganda and hearsay?
Higher weekend mortality rates are a consequence of senior staff (consultants and radiologists) not being available 24/7. For your information, the current government is the first in the history of the NHS to tackle this problem head on.
Staff have been complaining about morale in the NHS since I starting working there over 30 years ago. It's an endemic problem, but I'd say its no worse than it ever was. [Post edited 6 Apr 2014 14:46]
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 15:47 - Apr 6 with 1626 views | zxcvbnm |
It's obvious we're not going to agree.
Friend whose a mental health team leader - not meant to have patients but to monitor the nurses who are to ensure their and the patients safety. Horrendously understaffed has to have a caseload, patients and staff in danger. Increased incidents of attempted suicide amongst patients and increased assaults on staff.
My cousin a trainee nurse, left for long periods of time on wards by herself, no trained nurses about due to chronic staff shortages. When she was on a geriatric ward patients were going hungry because they had only 3 nurses covering 24 beds and they needed feeding. Patients were left for long periods of time in their own excrement for long periods of time because of understaffing. Complaints made to managers - not enough money
Friend whose a senior manager in a local trust describes morale and working conditions as the worst he's ever known
I can carry on but the NHS and the way it is being run is a national scandal. Maternity units being closed causing increased risks to babies and mothers etc etc etc
You must be bloody lucky where you work is all I can say | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 15:51 - Apr 6 with 1622 views | judd |
"Staff have been complaining about morale in the NHS since I starting working there over 30 years ago."
So it's all your fault? |  |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 16:17 - Apr 6 with 1608 views | isitme |
Whoever is in Government there will never be 'enough money' in the NHS, as it could always consume whatever was poured into it and then even more.
There has been a large population increase since 1997 due to the previous government's immigration policy. This is not a go at immigrants per se, but merely a reflection of numbers (some people seem unable to separate the two).
People are also living longer and older people are the biggest consumers of NHS services.
The growing obesity crisis, coupled with the rise in the 'expectation culture' have both placed massive strains on the NHS, especially A&E services.
Funnily enough the current government committed to spend more on the NHS than Labour did in its manifesto for the last election. The question should be how much can any government afford to spend on the NHS? I would think that the amount of management, instances of staff employed in non medical related services (in house magazines, artists etc) and procurement are key issues to be tackled within the NHS. People's expectations also have to change, especially if their ill health is self induced. |  | | |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 17:01 - Apr 6 with 1575 views | D_Alien |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 15:47 - Apr 6 by zxcvbnm |
It's obvious we're not going to agree.
Friend whose a mental health team leader - not meant to have patients but to monitor the nurses who are to ensure their and the patients safety. Horrendously understaffed has to have a caseload, patients and staff in danger. Increased incidents of attempted suicide amongst patients and increased assaults on staff.
My cousin a trainee nurse, left for long periods of time on wards by herself, no trained nurses about due to chronic staff shortages. When she was on a geriatric ward patients were going hungry because they had only 3 nurses covering 24 beds and they needed feeding. Patients were left for long periods of time in their own excrement for long periods of time because of understaffing. Complaints made to managers - not enough money
Friend whose a senior manager in a local trust describes morale and working conditions as the worst he's ever known
I can carry on but the NHS and the way it is being run is a national scandal. Maternity units being closed causing increased risks to babies and mothers etc etc etc
You must be bloody lucky where you work is all I can say |
I work in local hospitals.
It's true the NHS has massive problems. The two biggest are the number of illnesses now amenable to treatment that simply weren't 20 or even 10 years ago. The second is the demographic of the population - people living longer and having more chronic illnesses; many of those with diabetes, heart, respiratory and liver problems have inflicted their illness upon themselves through lifestyle choices.
So, is the taxpayer expected to pick up an infinite bill?
As far as poor quality of care being delivered in individual clinical areas is concerned - there is simply no excuse. Understaffing is largely down to poor management at local level, and from this month all clinical areas will be required to display publicly the number of staff on duty against the number of staff that should be on duty so that relevant action can be taken (a requirement brought in by the current government).
I'd agree that mental health services have deteriorated, but who's to blame for that? The way that people with mental health issues are treated has come about through the Mental Health Acts of 1983 and 2007. Note who was in government in 2007.
It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, it's more a case of looking at why the problems in the NHS occur and then trying to tackle them without bankrupting the country. Add to that, the inflated egos of senior NHS management and clinicians, and the need for a change in culture so that problems aren't brushed under the carpet. I could go on, but the solution isn't down to one type of political party or another; that's the point I'm trying to get across here. [Post edited 6 Apr 2014 17:09]
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 17:36 - Apr 6 with 1545 views | 49thseason |
The NHS is a money pit and will be until such time as we all realise that its not really "free" and until the management start accepting responsibilty for their actions and stop blaming someone else it will never improve, its like a huge Liverpool!
My wife suffers with MS and I have lost count of the number of times we have been to appointments that run late, meet people who know less about the condition than we do and have been treated like an skin irritation when we dare to ask questions or, god forbid, mention some recent research they know nothing about it.
The comparison with a private hospital we visit every couple of years or so in Blackpool could not be more stark. Appointments run to time, people are pleasant, our questions are answered and promised correspondence etc always happens, we are never rushed and we come away feeling better.
Personally I would put the £109B a year (thats £2000 for every man woman and child in the country and has doubled in the last 10 years) the NHS is currently costing out to tender and privatise the whole thing. I know there would be accusations of cherry picking services and massive opposition from unions but I don't see anything that could not be overcome with some sensible , tough contracts.
But then again tough contracts is an area the NHS knows little about. Ref: PFI hospitals going bust, massively expensive drugs that don't work , IT projects that fail and fail again, purchasing departments that seem to think everything that costs less than £100 is not worth having. Failure to invoice overseas visitors who have health insurance, and so on ad nauseam.
I have no doubt the NHS does brilliant work when people are in dire need, but the difference between the sharp end and the rest is a scandal and for too long we have closed our eyes and simply been grateful, which was OK 70 years ago but is no longer an acceptable way forwards. The NHS is a virtually unmanageable monster which has served its purpose but now needs a radical re-think and a change of attitude from those of us who pay for it. | | | |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 18:01 - Apr 6 with 1521 views | D_Alien |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 15:51 - Apr 6 by judd |
"Staff have been complaining about morale in the NHS since I starting working there over 30 years ago."
So it's all your fault? |
Ha!
Probably, but I don't think I've killed anyone. | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 18:04 - Apr 6 with 1514 views | judd |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 18:01 - Apr 6 by D_Alien |
Ha!
Probably, but I don't think I've killed anyone. |
Yet? | |
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| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 19:57 - Apr 6 with 1464 views | D_Alien |
| YouGov have been in touch with me - Next General Election - Who'd you vote for? on 18:04 - Apr 6 by judd |
Yet? |
I no longer work at "the coalface" but I could easily bore someone to death with statistics so I'm gonna stfu!
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