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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge 20:54 - Jan 26 with 8751 viewsmikehunt

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Is the muslim call to prayer over loudspeaker legal in this country? Because it was blasted out, loud as you like over Tweedale Street / Rochdale station area a few days back. And my daughter heard it in Blackburn a couple of days ago.

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:56 - Jan 27 with 2267 viewsTTNYear

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:35 - Jan 27 by Bobbyjoe

It's very convenient for many to hide behind semantics, D'Alien (Not you, I hasten to add), but if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, call it a duck.


I live next to some ducks. Those nice westernised ducks. They don't harm anyone, and go about their business quacking away. Its those other ducks I can't stand. Shoving their duck views down peoples necks. 'Come and be a duck'... 'Ducks are great'... 'If you don't join our extreme duckism, then you'll die the death of a thousands cuts'. Or I think that's what they say, I don't understand duck, but someone in the Daily Mail said, so it has to be true. If you read their religious scriptures, they call it the 'Good Duck' it has loads on living the life of being a good duck, but some people seem to have misinterpreted 'love thy pond neighbour' to 'lets cause a duck rumpus'. Its all very confusing to a layman like me. ....

Can anyone help?

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 16:14 - Jan 27 with 2234 viewsnordenblue

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:06 - Jan 27 by Bobbyjoe

Well, I can't recall, off-hand, any threads questioning the legality of broadcasting any other loud sounds (music, say, or electioneering, or even tannoy-announcements from football grounds!). Of course I may have missed them.


As people know the specific things you've mentioned currently aren't against the law it would be rather pointless questioning the topics you suggest? Youve certainly missed something,the ability to read an explanation out of a dictionary, obviously.
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 17:05 - Jan 27 with 2185 viewsD_Alien

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:56 - Jan 27 by TTNYear

I live next to some ducks. Those nice westernised ducks. They don't harm anyone, and go about their business quacking away. Its those other ducks I can't stand. Shoving their duck views down peoples necks. 'Come and be a duck'... 'Ducks are great'... 'If you don't join our extreme duckism, then you'll die the death of a thousands cuts'. Or I think that's what they say, I don't understand duck, but someone in the Daily Mail said, so it has to be true. If you read their religious scriptures, they call it the 'Good Duck' it has loads on living the life of being a good duck, but some people seem to have misinterpreted 'love thy pond neighbour' to 'lets cause a duck rumpus'. Its all very confusing to a layman like me. ....

Can anyone help?


It depends whether you're interpreting duckism through the prism of duck breasts or duck legs.

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 23:46 - Jan 27 with 2108 viewsoff2div1

I used live next to St Aidens at Sudden and every Sunday morning The Bells The Bells The bloody Bells drove me mad.Well I am a christian so I wont complain about that.
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 20:56 - Jan 28 with 1977 viewsfinberty

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 23:46 - Jan 27 by off2div1

I used live next to St Aidens at Sudden and every Sunday morning The Bells The Bells The bloody Bells drove me mad.Well I am a christian so I wont complain about that.


Sorry to enquire, but why did you move near to a church that uses bells?
Presumably they were there first...?
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:09 - Jan 28 with 1963 viewssandylaner1

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:11 - Jan 28 with 1959 viewsThacks_Rabbits

Long since past caring or getting involved in the whole race argument - it will not change a thing.

Having said that claiming I was a practicing Jew got me out of working Saturdays - as nobody dare question it in case they were branded racist or unaccomodating to someone elses religious beliefs - you could not make it up!!!!

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 23:09 - Jan 28 with 1892 viewsKenBoon

Religion is bobbins.
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 09:17 - Jan 29 with 1831 viewsoff2div1

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 20:56 - Jan 28 by finberty

Sorry to enquire, but why did you move near to a church that uses bells?
Presumably they were there first...?


You don't know about the bells unless you viewed on Sunday or live close by
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 12:57 - Jan 29 with 1774 viewsParkinsGimp

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 23:39 - Jan 26 by off2div1

I wonder why we don't have many Asian,s coming to the Dale.


I believe one of our regular posters was it "Maybe" said he sat next to two Asian lads at the Leeds game who promptly told him they were from Rochdale but were Leeds fans and that they would never watch "crappy" Rochdale.
Seems to me we wouldn't want losers like this anyway, obviously no idea of football in general just following big teams like so many other Asians.
Perhaps if they intergrated a bit more they might feel welcomed instead of alienating the local population.
Just a thought
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 13:13 - Jan 29 with 1764 viewspioneer

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 12:57 - Jan 29 by ParkinsGimp

I believe one of our regular posters was it "Maybe" said he sat next to two Asian lads at the Leeds game who promptly told him they were from Rochdale but were Leeds fans and that they would never watch "crappy" Rochdale.
Seems to me we wouldn't want losers like this anyway, obviously no idea of football in general just following big teams like so many other Asians.
Perhaps if they intergrated a bit more they might feel welcomed instead of alienating the local population.
Just a thought


well that will help us increase attendence! Dont you dare consider ocasionally watching a higher level of football and then think of coming to Spotland.

I suppose this is a purely asian thing is it?

I was at Old trafford last night - does that make me unwelcome at spotland - or is it just Asians who support other teams you feel are unwelcome.
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 13:56 - Jan 29 with 1728 viewsDale_Pea

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 23:09 - Jan 28 by KenBoon

Religion is bobbins.


Best post on the thread. Muslim, Christian, Jew, Sikh, it really doesn't matter. They're all bonkers for believing it.

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 14:42 - Jan 29 with 1701 viewsaleanddale

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 13:56 - Jan 29 by Dale_Pea

Best post on the thread. Muslim, Christian, Jew, Sikh, it really doesn't matter. They're all bonkers for believing it.


second best post Dale Pea!!
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 14:52 - Jan 29 with 1695 viewsParkinsGimp

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 13:13 - Jan 29 by pioneer

well that will help us increase attendence! Dont you dare consider ocasionally watching a higher level of football and then think of coming to Spotland.

I suppose this is a purely asian thing is it?

I was at Old trafford last night - does that make me unwelcome at spotland - or is it just Asians who support other teams you feel are unwelcome.


Sensitive chappy are you?
As it happens if you had an aggressive nature towards Rochdale then I would suggest you didn't bother.
I believe these two morons had a quite aggressive outlook towards our club.
I am assuming you don't so I have no problem with people watching higher league football and having a "second" but to disrespect your own town is not really acceptable I am sure you agree?
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:06 - Jan 29 with 1689 viewsDale_Pea

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 12:57 - Jan 29 by ParkinsGimp

I believe one of our regular posters was it "Maybe" said he sat next to two Asian lads at the Leeds game who promptly told him they were from Rochdale but were Leeds fans and that they would never watch "crappy" Rochdale.
Seems to me we wouldn't want losers like this anyway, obviously no idea of football in general just following big teams like so many other Asians.
Perhaps if they intergrated a bit more they might feel welcomed instead of alienating the local population.
Just a thought


I don't feel alienated from the Asians in my community. I also happen to think they've integrated pretty well around where I live...is there something I'm missing about what makes Asian people so bad for you?

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:13 - Jan 29 with 1682 viewsParkinsGimp

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:06 - Jan 29 by Dale_Pea

I don't feel alienated from the Asians in my community. I also happen to think they've integrated pretty well around where I live...is there something I'm missing about what makes Asian people so bad for you?


Please don't draw on this topic.
What area do you live in? I don't need a reply.
I was born in Deeplish and grew up there, so think I have a fair valid right to state my opinion.
I have my opinion sir as you do and I also have inside knowledge of other issues surrounding this town to prove integration hasn't always happened as one would wish.
I think this topic is getting a little out of hand so I will withdraw graciously to my corner as you should to yours.
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:21 - Jan 29 with 1672 viewsDale_Pea

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:13 - Jan 29 by ParkinsGimp

Please don't draw on this topic.
What area do you live in? I don't need a reply.
I was born in Deeplish and grew up there, so think I have a fair valid right to state my opinion.
I have my opinion sir as you do and I also have inside knowledge of other issues surrounding this town to prove integration hasn't always happened as one would wish.
I think this topic is getting a little out of hand so I will withdraw graciously to my corner as you should to yours.


I'll withdraw when I fancy it.

I live in Bury now but I grew up in Bamford. Went to school at Oulder Hill and had plenty of Asians in all of my classes. Stayed friends with quite a few of them, and honestly don't see what makes them so much worse than the non-Asian chavs that made school such a pain, and continue to be a nuisance. Being white hasn't made these people a nuisance, being a nobhead has. Being Asian doesn't make someone a nuisance, being a nobhead does.

Yes, there's plenty of cases in which unfortunate and horrible things have happened, and yes sometimes there are Asians involved, but that is not an excuse to belittle them and make them out to be the bad people you obviously believe they are.

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:46 - Jan 29 with 1659 viewsParkinsGimp

Bamford eh LOL
Well if you wont withdraw then for starters I should show the way towards the BBC Two programme The Town Planners. That was a shambolic show of steamrollering over any type of fair justice and was overtly "racist" in its content.
I also have contacts within social services and police which would make your hair go grey since I imagine you are not of a middle age just yet.
I am glad you have good Asian friends that is great news but may I also point out that at present the bad far outweighs the good, and do you know why?
Because "all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that a few good men do nothing"
Intergration is a two way thing it is not a demand or a right! We are the most tolerant county in the world yet time and again our laws and goodwill has been abused.
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 16:16 - Jan 29 with 1642 viewsSuddenLad

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:46 - Jan 29 by ParkinsGimp

Bamford eh LOL
Well if you wont withdraw then for starters I should show the way towards the BBC Two programme The Town Planners. That was a shambolic show of steamrollering over any type of fair justice and was overtly "racist" in its content.
I also have contacts within social services and police which would make your hair go grey since I imagine you are not of a middle age just yet.
I am glad you have good Asian friends that is great news but may I also point out that at present the bad far outweighs the good, and do you know why?
Because "all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that a few good men do nothing"
Intergration is a two way thing it is not a demand or a right! We are the most tolerant county in the world yet time and again our laws and goodwill has been abused.


Firstly, why does Bamford qualify for 'LOL' ? Is there something humorous about the area or the people who grew up there ? I'd love to know the reasoning behind your comment.

Secondly, I also went to Oulder Hill when it was situated on King Street in the town centre. (Now a car park behind the job centre) It was then called Broadfield, changed its' name to Oulder Hill and was transferred to its' present site. Likewise, there were many Asians at the school, but the real dick-heads weren't the Asians. There is no qualifying skin colour or ethnic minority background required to become a dick-head. It's personal choice for those concerned. Just the same as any football team you may choose to follow, it's your choice.

Similarly, those who choose to commit crime, whichever crime they select, do so because they choose to do so. It has nothing to do with their background - it is their personal choice as individuals. Those who commit the crimes and who are found guilty end up in the same place. There is no distinguishing them from each other. They are all criminals.

I'll venture to suggest that proportionately, there are fewer crimes of all kinds committed by Asians than other members of our society. From my long personal experience of meeting, befriending, working alongside and dealing with Asians - and that includes Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and others - (and also living next door to them for over 20 years) I can confidently state that the overwhelming majority of them are as decent, polite, loyal, trustworthy and honest as any other member of our community.

Quoting a single BBC TV programme is no proof of anything. It's no more representative than reading the Sun and expecting every 20 year-old blonde from Essex to walk down the street topless.

The thing that makes my hair go grey is having to listen to bigots trying to undermine specific sections of the community with ill-informed opinions that have no basis in fact.

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 16:35 - Jan 29 with 1623 viewsDale_Pea

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 16:16 - Jan 29 by SuddenLad

Firstly, why does Bamford qualify for 'LOL' ? Is there something humorous about the area or the people who grew up there ? I'd love to know the reasoning behind your comment.

Secondly, I also went to Oulder Hill when it was situated on King Street in the town centre. (Now a car park behind the job centre) It was then called Broadfield, changed its' name to Oulder Hill and was transferred to its' present site. Likewise, there were many Asians at the school, but the real dick-heads weren't the Asians. There is no qualifying skin colour or ethnic minority background required to become a dick-head. It's personal choice for those concerned. Just the same as any football team you may choose to follow, it's your choice.

Similarly, those who choose to commit crime, whichever crime they select, do so because they choose to do so. It has nothing to do with their background - it is their personal choice as individuals. Those who commit the crimes and who are found guilty end up in the same place. There is no distinguishing them from each other. They are all criminals.

I'll venture to suggest that proportionately, there are fewer crimes of all kinds committed by Asians than other members of our society. From my long personal experience of meeting, befriending, working alongside and dealing with Asians - and that includes Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and others - (and also living next door to them for over 20 years) I can confidently state that the overwhelming majority of them are as decent, polite, loyal, trustworthy and honest as any other member of our community.

Quoting a single BBC TV programme is no proof of anything. It's no more representative than reading the Sun and expecting every 20 year-old blonde from Essex to walk down the street topless.

The thing that makes my hair go grey is having to listen to bigots trying to undermine specific sections of the community with ill-informed opinions that have no basis in fact.


Top man.

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 16:36 - Jan 29 with 1622 viewsVespa

Let's talk about something less contentious ehh............Like hanging.

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 18:33 - Jan 29 with 1563 viewsfunkkk

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 16:16 - Jan 29 by SuddenLad

Firstly, why does Bamford qualify for 'LOL' ? Is there something humorous about the area or the people who grew up there ? I'd love to know the reasoning behind your comment.

Secondly, I also went to Oulder Hill when it was situated on King Street in the town centre. (Now a car park behind the job centre) It was then called Broadfield, changed its' name to Oulder Hill and was transferred to its' present site. Likewise, there were many Asians at the school, but the real dick-heads weren't the Asians. There is no qualifying skin colour or ethnic minority background required to become a dick-head. It's personal choice for those concerned. Just the same as any football team you may choose to follow, it's your choice.

Similarly, those who choose to commit crime, whichever crime they select, do so because they choose to do so. It has nothing to do with their background - it is their personal choice as individuals. Those who commit the crimes and who are found guilty end up in the same place. There is no distinguishing them from each other. They are all criminals.

I'll venture to suggest that proportionately, there are fewer crimes of all kinds committed by Asians than other members of our society. From my long personal experience of meeting, befriending, working alongside and dealing with Asians - and that includes Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and others - (and also living next door to them for over 20 years) I can confidently state that the overwhelming majority of them are as decent, polite, loyal, trustworthy and honest as any other member of our community.

Quoting a single BBC TV programme is no proof of anything. It's no more representative than reading the Sun and expecting every 20 year-old blonde from Essex to walk down the street topless.

The thing that makes my hair go grey is having to listen to bigots trying to undermine specific sections of the community with ill-informed opinions that have no basis in fact.


Can you not see that you are generalising here as much as someone who says 'all Asians are bad' would be?
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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:25 - Jan 29 with 1503 viewsR17ALE

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 16:16 - Jan 29 by SuddenLad

Firstly, why does Bamford qualify for 'LOL' ? Is there something humorous about the area or the people who grew up there ? I'd love to know the reasoning behind your comment.

Secondly, I also went to Oulder Hill when it was situated on King Street in the town centre. (Now a car park behind the job centre) It was then called Broadfield, changed its' name to Oulder Hill and was transferred to its' present site. Likewise, there were many Asians at the school, but the real dick-heads weren't the Asians. There is no qualifying skin colour or ethnic minority background required to become a dick-head. It's personal choice for those concerned. Just the same as any football team you may choose to follow, it's your choice.

Similarly, those who choose to commit crime, whichever crime they select, do so because they choose to do so. It has nothing to do with their background - it is their personal choice as individuals. Those who commit the crimes and who are found guilty end up in the same place. There is no distinguishing them from each other. They are all criminals.

I'll venture to suggest that proportionately, there are fewer crimes of all kinds committed by Asians than other members of our society. From my long personal experience of meeting, befriending, working alongside and dealing with Asians - and that includes Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and others - (and also living next door to them for over 20 years) I can confidently state that the overwhelming majority of them are as decent, polite, loyal, trustworthy and honest as any other member of our community.

Quoting a single BBC TV programme is no proof of anything. It's no more representative than reading the Sun and expecting every 20 year-old blonde from Essex to walk down the street topless.

The thing that makes my hair go grey is having to listen to bigots trying to undermine specific sections of the community with ill-informed opinions that have no basis in fact.


I agree with most of what you say. But,

"Similarly, those who choose to commit crime, whichever crime they select, do so because they choose to do so. It has nothing to do with their background - it is their personal choice"

I would argue, the background upon which they are raised, contributes significantly to their decision making.

Be that suicide bombing.

Be that Nazis v Jews.

Be that Ireland.

And so on....

Culture influences decisions, not the individual, because most individuals are like sheep.

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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:37 - Jan 29 with 1478 viewsrod_leach

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 16:35 - Jan 29 by Dale_Pea

Top man.


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Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 22:12 - Jan 29 with 1452 viewsThacks_Rabbits

Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 16:16 - Jan 29 by SuddenLad

Firstly, why does Bamford qualify for 'LOL' ? Is there something humorous about the area or the people who grew up there ? I'd love to know the reasoning behind your comment.

Secondly, I also went to Oulder Hill when it was situated on King Street in the town centre. (Now a car park behind the job centre) It was then called Broadfield, changed its' name to Oulder Hill and was transferred to its' present site. Likewise, there were many Asians at the school, but the real dick-heads weren't the Asians. There is no qualifying skin colour or ethnic minority background required to become a dick-head. It's personal choice for those concerned. Just the same as any football team you may choose to follow, it's your choice.

Similarly, those who choose to commit crime, whichever crime they select, do so because they choose to do so. It has nothing to do with their background - it is their personal choice as individuals. Those who commit the crimes and who are found guilty end up in the same place. There is no distinguishing them from each other. They are all criminals.

I'll venture to suggest that proportionately, there are fewer crimes of all kinds committed by Asians than other members of our society. From my long personal experience of meeting, befriending, working alongside and dealing with Asians - and that includes Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and others - (and also living next door to them for over 20 years) I can confidently state that the overwhelming majority of them are as decent, polite, loyal, trustworthy and honest as any other member of our community.

Quoting a single BBC TV programme is no proof of anything. It's no more representative than reading the Sun and expecting every 20 year-old blonde from Essex to walk down the street topless.

The thing that makes my hair go grey is having to listen to bigots trying to undermine specific sections of the community with ill-informed opinions that have no basis in fact.


Good post in general - however - "I'll venture to suggest that proportionately, there are fewer crimes of all kinds committed by Asians than other members of our society." Crazy!!!

You spend ages suggesting a dickhead is a dickhead and a criminal is a criminal and then take the opinion Asians are less likely to commit crime than others. If I were to suggest the opposite I would be branded racist by some - thats where the whole argument falls down.

I tend to find some Asians are thieving lying bastards, just as some English, Polish, Spanish, African, .... oh hang on - some people are thieving lying bastards - thats better :)

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