Re election 19:18 - Nov 24 with 2198 views | Boundy | I see that an online petition to call for another general election has now reached a million votes , not going to happen but a more oil on the fire of Starmer's tenure . "An online petition calling for another general election to be held has surpassed 1 million signatures after thousands more signed it every minute. The call to action was started by small business owner Michael Westwood four days ago. Mr Westwood told the Express he thinks voters feel "betrayed" by Labour and that the "promises that were told" ahead of the July election "looking nothing like" the reality. Described as Britain's fastest-ever growing petition by commentators, the campaign has been backed by a number of political figures including Reform UK leader Nigel Farage, who said he had "never seen anything like it" after watching 750,000 signees add their names in just 24 hours. Former Tory leadership contender Robert Jenrick said: "Over a million people have now expressed their fury that Labour lied at the general election. "Starmer shamelessly said one thing to get elected and has done the complete opposite once in power. Nobody will ever trust a word he says again." | |
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Re election on 19:21 - Nov 24 with 1540 views | raynor94 | Made my day, it's peeing off that slimy toad Jenrick! | |
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Re election on 19:29 - Nov 24 with 1515 views | Boundy |
Re election on 19:21 - Nov 24 by raynor94 | Made my day, it's peeing off that slimy toad Jenrick! |
more importantly its peeing off a million voters | |
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Re election on 19:30 - Nov 24 with 1515 views | magicdaps10 | Some front given the lies from Farage and the tories in recent years. We live in a world of self ignorance and entitlement. | |
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Re election on 19:40 - Nov 24 with 1503 views | Boundy |
Re election on 19:30 - Nov 24 by magicdaps10 | Some front given the lies from Farage and the tories in recent years. We live in a world of self ignorance and entitlement. |
and Labour ? | |
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Re election on 19:51 - Nov 24 with 1464 views | magicdaps10 |
Re election on 19:40 - Nov 24 by Boundy | and Labour ? |
Of course. I just find it funny that Farage and Tories are crying on the fact that someone else has lied. | |
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Re election on 19:51 - Nov 24 with 1464 views | Whiterockin | This could escalate as there are nearly 13 million pensioners in the UK. | | | |
Re election on 20:25 - Nov 24 with 1395 views | majorraglan | And 6 million signed a petition to revoke Article 50. | | | |
Re election on 20:28 - Nov 24 with 1377 views | Dr_Winston | Barring a bizarre chain of events, it doesn't mean much. Starmer's got five years and a sizeable majority to do basically anything he wants. | |
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Re election on 20:29 - Nov 24 with 1372 views | Whiterockin |
Re election on 19:51 - Nov 24 by Whiterockin | This could escalate as there are nearly 13 million pensioners in the UK. |
Over 1.5M and flying. It won't make any difference except being highly embarrassing for Starmer. | | | |
Re election on 20:41 - Nov 24 with 1332 views | onehunglow |
Re election on 20:29 - Nov 24 by Whiterockin | Over 1.5M and flying. It won't make any difference except being highly embarrassing for Starmer. |
Imagine how they will feel in another 12 months | |
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Re election on 20:45 - Nov 24 with 1328 views | Boundy |
Re election on 20:25 - Nov 24 by majorraglan | And 6 million signed a petition to revoke Article 50. |
and they're still crying | |
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Re election on 07:53 - Nov 25 with 1174 views | SullutaCreturned |
Re election on 19:30 - Nov 24 by magicdaps10 | Some front given the lies from Farage and the tories in recent years. We live in a world of self ignorance and entitlement. |
Very true and pokiticuans are the worst of us. When will people wake up, politicians say whatever they think we need to hear to win them the elections. They don't care about us, that ship sailed a long time ago, it's not about public service, it's about self aggrandisement | | | |
Re election on 08:21 - Nov 25 with 1157 views | Scotia |
Re election on 07:53 - Nov 25 by SullutaCreturned | Very true and pokiticuans are the worst of us. When will people wake up, politicians say whatever they think we need to hear to win them the elections. They don't care about us, that ship sailed a long time ago, it's not about public service, it's about self aggrandisement |
That's what politics is about. Getting elected. I've never known a worse group to chose from. Unfortunately, like it or not, The Labour party were the only alternative to the Tory's. | | | |
Re election on 08:24 - Nov 25 with 1150 views | SullutaCreturned |
Re election on 08:21 - Nov 25 by Scotia | That's what politics is about. Getting elected. I've never known a worse group to chose from. Unfortunately, like it or not, The Labour party were the only alternative to the Tory's. |
No they weren't. Any other box and the ballot was also an alternative, maybe not a great alternative but people had choices and as long as we keep electing the same 2 tird old parties, nothing changes. | | | |
Re election on 08:35 - Nov 25 with 1142 views | Scotia |
Re election on 08:24 - Nov 25 by SullutaCreturned | No they weren't. Any other box and the ballot was also an alternative, maybe not a great alternative but people had choices and as long as we keep electing the same 2 tird old parties, nothing changes. |
That's what I mean. With the current system it's Labour or the Tory's. I'm genuinely worried about Reform making headway becasue they'd be a complete disaster. | | | |
Re election on 11:27 - Nov 25 with 1069 views | Whiterockin | Over two million signatures now, by any measure it is truly staggering how quickly it's escalating. | | | |
Re election on 11:29 - Nov 25 with 1061 views | onehunglow |
Re election on 11:27 - Nov 25 by Whiterockin | Over two million signatures now, by any measure it is truly staggering how quickly it's escalating. |
People just need to read my Blog OHL is the way to go. | |
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Re election on 13:17 - Nov 25 with 1002 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Re election on 08:35 - Nov 25 by Scotia | That's what I mean. With the current system it's Labour or the Tory's. I'm genuinely worried about Reform making headway becasue they'd be a complete disaster. |
It’s obvious that this country needs reform (with a small r). The model isn’t working. We’re supposedly one of the most wealthy countries in the world and we’re still paying through the nose and being taxed til the pips squeaked just to keep the lights on. It just doesn’t add up. The only way change will ever happen, the only time these cretins will actually listen is if there’s a real existential threat to the status quo. History has shown us time and time again that the great acts of reform have always come about because those in power face the real prospect of being defenestrated. For example the reforms of the early 1900’s and the advance of workers rights were almost certainly the result of or at least heavily influenced by the threat of communism spreading in Europe and the events in Ipatiev House. So for anything to change the established two party system needs to come under some serious pressure, and Reform seem to have captured something amongst those disaffected by the current status quo. They are not to be underestimated. Are they the cure? Absolutely not, but they could be the massive kick up the arse the country needs. | |
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Re election on 13:44 - Nov 25 with 982 views | AnotherJohn |
Re election on 13:17 - Nov 25 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth | It’s obvious that this country needs reform (with a small r). The model isn’t working. We’re supposedly one of the most wealthy countries in the world and we’re still paying through the nose and being taxed til the pips squeaked just to keep the lights on. It just doesn’t add up. The only way change will ever happen, the only time these cretins will actually listen is if there’s a real existential threat to the status quo. History has shown us time and time again that the great acts of reform have always come about because those in power face the real prospect of being defenestrated. For example the reforms of the early 1900’s and the advance of workers rights were almost certainly the result of or at least heavily influenced by the threat of communism spreading in Europe and the events in Ipatiev House. So for anything to change the established two party system needs to come under some serious pressure, and Reform seem to have captured something amongst those disaffected by the current status quo. They are not to be underestimated. Are they the cure? Absolutely not, but they could be the massive kick up the arse the country needs. |
I certainly think the shock effect could work at Senedd election level. I'm not too keen on the present Reform line-up, but if more people got on board it may develop into something more credible. | | | |
Re election on 15:26 - Nov 25 with 950 views | Scotia |
Re election on 13:17 - Nov 25 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth | It’s obvious that this country needs reform (with a small r). The model isn’t working. We’re supposedly one of the most wealthy countries in the world and we’re still paying through the nose and being taxed til the pips squeaked just to keep the lights on. It just doesn’t add up. The only way change will ever happen, the only time these cretins will actually listen is if there’s a real existential threat to the status quo. History has shown us time and time again that the great acts of reform have always come about because those in power face the real prospect of being defenestrated. For example the reforms of the early 1900’s and the advance of workers rights were almost certainly the result of or at least heavily influenced by the threat of communism spreading in Europe and the events in Ipatiev House. So for anything to change the established two party system needs to come under some serious pressure, and Reform seem to have captured something amongst those disaffected by the current status quo. They are not to be underestimated. Are they the cure? Absolutely not, but they could be the massive kick up the arse the country needs. |
The problem I have with Reform (the political business, not political reform) is it'll be a kick up the arse in the completely wrong direction. | | | |
Re election on 18:14 - Nov 25 with 873 views | SullutaCreturned |
Re election on 15:26 - Nov 25 by Scotia | The problem I have with Reform (the political business, not political reform) is it'll be a kick up the arse in the completely wrong direction. |
This is why I have long been saying vote for independent candidates. That will give both Labour and Tory a right kick up the rear end without any fear of some absurd mouthpiece like Farage getting any power. Haven't we learned after Bojo... | | | |
Re election on 06:05 - Nov 26 with 758 views | Scotia |
Re election on 18:14 - Nov 25 by SullutaCreturned | This is why I have long been saying vote for independent candidates. That will give both Labour and Tory a right kick up the rear end without any fear of some absurd mouthpiece like Farage getting any power. Haven't we learned after Bojo... |
At the moment all of the major parties only have to appeal to their traditional support and a few hundred other people in certain constituencies. First past the post doesn't work and to many people don't vote at all. PR and compulsory voting would mean they'd have to try to appeal to everyone. It wouldn't be perfect nothing would be, but it would see the end of two party dominance. | | | |
Re election on 08:58 - Nov 26 with 725 views | Plankton | People upset at those who wish to overturn the result of a 'democratic' Brexit vote now wishing to overturn the result of a democratic general election... It's almost as if these people had some nasty hidden agenda. | | | |
Re election on 09:10 - Nov 26 with 719 views | onehunglow |
Re election on 08:58 - Nov 26 by Plankton | People upset at those who wish to overturn the result of a 'democratic' Brexit vote now wishing to overturn the result of a democratic general election... It's almost as if these people had some nasty hidden agenda. |
People are afraid Some admit so We didn’t exactly have much leadership with the conservatives who were asleep for most of their watch . Now,we have people are are wide awake in charge . Sadly,that’s the problem . | |
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Re election on 10:42 - Nov 26 with 689 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Re election on 08:58 - Nov 26 by Plankton | People upset at those who wish to overturn the result of a 'democratic' Brexit vote now wishing to overturn the result of a democratic general election... It's almost as if these people had some nasty hidden agenda. |
It’s just a peoples vote because people didn’t know what they were voting for! | |
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