| Winning ugly 08:10 - Oct 4 with 2073 views | saint901 |
Just caught up with the "highlights".
Some observations.
We're a better side when S Armstrong and Alcaraz start.
We're a better side when the defenders move the ball on quickly and keep it away from our goal.
We're a better side when the players re not under instruction to keep the ball for too long.
That said, the ref was kind to us and Stoke could easily have had a penalty if VAR was in use. (Or not, given how VAR has been recently!).
We're now about half way between the top and the bottom of the table and if we have any ambition, in the next 13 games in the run to Christmas, we need to looking for 8 wins, 2 losses and 3 draws.
Anything less would perhaps put us out of contention for promotion this season and will make the Janaury transfer window interesting. |  | | |  |
| Winning ugly on 08:55 - Oct 4 with 1974 views | SonicBoom |
Agree with pretty much all of that. I was sceptical about us after Saturday but credit where it's due, any win away particularly midweek is a good one. We rode our luck a bit but who cares. A really good three points. |  | | |
| Winning ugly on 10:28 - Oct 4 with 1864 views | cocklebreath |
Really impressed with the 2 centre backs and KWP they were excellent, manning on the other hand was awful, just seems so slow on the ball and his passing is way off and he never seems to be in the right position. |  |
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| Winning ugly on 10:54 - Oct 4 with 1850 views | wibbersda |
| Winning ugly on 10:28 - Oct 4 by cocklebreath |
Really impressed with the 2 centre backs and KWP they were excellent, manning on the other hand was awful, just seems so slow on the ball and his passing is way off and he never seems to be in the right position. |
Looking at Stokes attacking % stats, they blitzed the right wing. It would appear therefore, that teams see going through Manning as their best option for goals. I suspect all teams will do this. Jan did well to support him and snuff out his errors, but think where would we be now if we still had Perraud? | | | |
| Winning ugly on 11:22 - Oct 4 with 1833 views | Berber |
| Winning ugly on 10:54 - Oct 4 by wibbersda |
Looking at Stokes attacking % stats, they blitzed the right wing. It would appear therefore, that teams see going through Manning as their best option for goals. I suspect all teams will do this. Jan did well to support him and snuff out his errors, but think where would we be now if we still had Perraud? |
I am offended every time Manning is mentioned. |  |
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| Winning ugly on 11:23 - Oct 4 with 1824 views | saint22 |
| Winning ugly on 11:22 - Oct 4 by Berber |
I am offended every time Manning is mentioned. |
Unfortunately we let our better LB leave | | | |
| Winning ugly on 11:39 - Oct 4 with 1819 views | SaintNick |
| Winning ugly on 11:23 - Oct 4 by saint22 |
Unfortunately we let our better LB leave |
Watching the game live I thought Manning dug in and although yes he was a bit slow, in the main he dug in and made sure that he didn't make too many mistakes.
Perhaps the way forward might be KWP at left back and Holgate at right back, people hark on about Perraud, but he wasn't even the best left back at the club last season, if Juan Larios could shake off his injuries, last season he might well have been a regular and he could have a part to play this season |  |
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| Winning ugly on 12:09 - Oct 4 with 1779 views | cocklebreath |
| Winning ugly on 11:39 - Oct 4 by SaintNick |
Watching the game live I thought Manning dug in and although yes he was a bit slow, in the main he dug in and made sure that he didn't make too many mistakes.
Perhaps the way forward might be KWP at left back and Holgate at right back, people hark on about Perraud, but he wasn't even the best left back at the club last season, if Juan Larios could shake off his injuries, last season he might well have been a regular and he could have a part to play this season |
Any idea when Larios might be fit? | |
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| Winning ugly on 12:34 - Oct 4 with 1761 views | 1885_SFC |
| Winning ugly on 12:09 - Oct 4 by cocklebreath |
Any idea when Larios might be fit? |
That question is one of life's great mysteries. Probably a fortnight before his Saints contract runs out. |  |
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| Winning ugly on 13:25 - Oct 4 with 1717 views | GRIM |
| Winning ugly on 11:39 - Oct 4 by SaintNick |
Watching the game live I thought Manning dug in and although yes he was a bit slow, in the main he dug in and made sure that he didn't make too many mistakes.
Perhaps the way forward might be KWP at left back and Holgate at right back, people hark on about Perraud, but he wasn't even the best left back at the club last season, if Juan Larios could shake off his injuries, last season he might well have been a regular and he could have a part to play this season |
Nick how can you say that Larios is a better left back than Perraud.
We've only seen a few minutes of Larios there's no way we (or you) can judge him or compare him to Perraud ( or to Manning).
Perraud was decent for us & we miss him. | | | |
| Winning ugly on 17:13 - Oct 4 with 1602 views | SouthSeaSaint |
| Winning ugly on 13:25 - Oct 4 by GRIM |
Nick how can you say that Larios is a better left back than Perraud.
We've only seen a few minutes of Larios there's no way we (or you) can judge him or compare him to Perraud ( or to Manning).
Perraud was decent for us & we miss him. |
Re Manning.
I think he is only an average player and Peraud would have been a better shout.
That said Manning was left exposed on many occasion when the Stoke right back got forward and Manning was left with two players to mark as Sulemana was just ambling back.
I guess any Manager would have a problem with Sulemana.
A real threat going forward but somewhat of a liability against the ball.
This is the modern game and I wonder how wingers like John Sydenham would have coped as speedy players in his day wouldn't venture much into his own half and often have a chat with the opposing right back who was marking him!! | | | |
| Winning ugly on 19:19 - Oct 4 with 1540 views | GRIM |
| Winning ugly on 17:13 - Oct 4 by SouthSeaSaint |
Re Manning.
I think he is only an average player and Peraud would have been a better shout.
That said Manning was left exposed on many occasion when the Stoke right back got forward and Manning was left with two players to mark as Sulemana was just ambling back.
I guess any Manager would have a problem with Sulemana.
A real threat going forward but somewhat of a liability against the ball.
This is the modern game and I wonder how wingers like John Sydenham would have coped as speedy players in his day wouldn't venture much into his own half and often have a chat with the opposing right back who was marking him!! |
I played with John Sydenham & he only had one gear & that was fast forward.
He was very, very effective in his day but the modern game requires more versatility.
Defending was alien to him & Terry Paine they left that to to Big boys at the back.
Funny old game. | | | |
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