| Who does Steve Cook Replace? 15:00 - Dec 29 with 35005 views | Hastings_Hoops |
I would imagine that Steve Cook will be joining us on the assumption of first team football - in which case, who does he replace (style of play / positioning) - I must admit to being a bit ignorant on that one.
Also, I assume that this indicates that:
1) Dickie and / or Barbet will definitely be gone by next season.
Or
2) we’re planning ahead and assuming Cook’s experience could be a great help to Dickie and Dunne in settling into the prem.
…most likely hedging our bets each way. |  | | |  |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:13 - Jan 5 with 3858 views | Northernr |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:03 - Jan 5 by Wegerles_Stairs |
How on earth is someone who has played twice for Arsenal on 40k a week? |
This is football now. And should always be born in mind when we're assessing how well or badly we're doing, and who we should and shouldn't be signing. |  | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:22 - Jan 5 with 3798 views | Northernr |
Forest now trying to hijack Besiktas' move for Jed Wallace from Millwall. | | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:36 - Jan 5 with 3722 views | TheChef |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 13:38 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
On the mentalness of January and the Championship in general, Middlesbrough have agreed to foot Balogun's £40k a week wage and pay a large agent fee to borrow him until May.
We cannot, and absolutely should not, be playing stupid games like that. |
I thought Steve Gibson had more sense than that. Or maybe not. Is this their 'Promotion, shit or bust' move?
And on the subject of wing backs clearly that's an area where we need to recruit, but probably the most difficult position to sign quality; unless you have ready made ones coming through the youth system, or you're able to successfully convert wingers or full backs. |  |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:37 - Jan 5 with 3704 views | kensalriser |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:22 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
Forest now trying to hijack Besiktas' move for Jed Wallace from Millwall. |
Forest's scouting system seems to be working quite well. No need for your own scouts or bothering with boring stuff like data. |  |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:40 - Jan 5 with 3691 views | kensalriser |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:13 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
This is football now. And should always be born in mind when we're assessing how well or badly we're doing, and who we should and shouldn't be signing. |
Especially when he turns out to be no more effective than Will Keane. | |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:43 - Jan 5 with 3673 views | Northernr |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:37 - Jan 5 by kensalriser |
Forest's scouting system seems to be working quite well. No need for your own scouts or bothering with boring stuff like data. |
Transfer window has been open three days. They've already done Djed Spence (there already on loan tbf), Keinan Davis, Steve Cook which they've had to pay over and above what we were offering to get, and now want Jed Wallace who they're going to have to pay over and above what Besiktas are are offering. This is day four.
And all the responses to it online are "it's different now, we've got a CEO that knows what he's doing". That CEO came from Barnsley with a very clear ethos that you do not sign players over 26, you sign only players with sell on value so you can start the Brentford-style churn. Second transfer window, they're forking over big wage to get Steve Cook on a three-year contract at the end of which he'll be 34. The bloke who's actually paid by The Athletic to write sensibly about them is chucking out "why it made sense for Forest to abandon the U26 plan this time..." pieces only for them to go chasing another over 26 the day after.
They're mental. Properly mental.
Maybe one day it'll work for them, they'll fluke a promotion. Maybe this year. And then none of it will matter. But there's not much sign so far. Cook is their 83rd permanent signing since January 2018. | | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:58 - Jan 5 with 3581 views | danehoop |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:22 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
Forest now trying to hijack Besiktas' move for Jed Wallace from Millwall. |
According to Nottinghamshire Live "It is thought Forest have switched their attentions to Wallace after hitting a snag in their bid to sign Josh Bowler from Blackpool amid claims the two clubs cannot agree on a valuation for the player." |  |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 16:08 - Jan 5 with 3517 views | Northernr |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:58 - Jan 5 by danehoop |
According to Nottinghamshire Live "It is thought Forest have switched their attentions to Wallace after hitting a snag in their bid to sign Josh Bowler from Blackpool amid claims the two clubs cannot agree on a valuation for the player." |
On what planet is that a coherent recruitment strategy? Josh Bowler, 22, resale value coming out the wazoo, academy education as Warbs likes to say, under contract but at a smaller Championship club. Ah no, well, ok then, errrrr Jed Wallace - about to turn 28, coming out of contract but you're going to have to (Bristol City and Wells style) pay both a transfer fee to get him and outbid Besiktas on wages, and he'll be 31/32 when that massive deal expires.
What's this?
It's a litre of Diet Coke.
I sent you out for milk?
Yeh well they didn't have any so... | | | |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 16:27 - Jan 5 with 3403 views | LythamR |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 16:08 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
On what planet is that a coherent recruitment strategy? Josh Bowler, 22, resale value coming out the wazoo, academy education as Warbs likes to say, under contract but at a smaller Championship club. Ah no, well, ok then, errrrr Jed Wallace - about to turn 28, coming out of contract but you're going to have to (Bristol City and Wells style) pay both a transfer fee to get him and outbid Besiktas on wages, and he'll be 31/32 when that massive deal expires.
What's this?
It's a litre of Diet Coke.
I sent you out for milk?
Yeh well they didn't have any so... |
at least these days we can laugh at the idiocy and snigger, safe in the knowledge that we wont be jumping in the cesspool with both feet. |  | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 16:40 - Jan 5 with 3338 views | Northernr |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 16:27 - Jan 5 by LythamR |
at least these days we can laugh at the idiocy and snigger, safe in the knowledge that we wont be jumping in the cesspool with both feet. |
Well I would hope so, but four days into the window I'm already seeing people questioning how well we're doing this season when we're currently fifth with by far and away the lowest budget of any of the clubs around us, saying this season is an enormous opportunity because the Championship is suddenly going to get monumentally more difficult next season for some reason, saying the board should "put up or shut up". And that's on here, which is usually quite a reasonable place. You're going to see the "make a fcking signing" brigade work themselves into a right state on Twitter in the next couple of weeks.
When a five month borrow of an unproven Arsenal kid is costing you £1m plus an agent fee, we're best off not bothering and making do.
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 17:04 - Jan 5 with 3206 views | enfieldargh |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 16:08 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
On what planet is that a coherent recruitment strategy? Josh Bowler, 22, resale value coming out the wazoo, academy education as Warbs likes to say, under contract but at a smaller Championship club. Ah no, well, ok then, errrrr Jed Wallace - about to turn 28, coming out of contract but you're going to have to (Bristol City and Wells style) pay both a transfer fee to get him and outbid Besiktas on wages, and he'll be 31/32 when that massive deal expires.
What's this?
It's a litre of Diet Coke.
I sent you out for milk?
Yeh well they didn't have any so... |
To be fair to Forest they only had a squad of 32 before the window opened so they need to bulk it up a bit to get back to normal numbers.
Plenty of room on the 07:15 Mumbai to Nagpur sleeper |  |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 17:35 - Jan 5 with 3110 views | Northernr |
Tomorrow's...
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 17:46 - Jan 5 with 3077 views | Harbour |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 16:40 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
Well I would hope so, but four days into the window I'm already seeing people questioning how well we're doing this season when we're currently fifth with by far and away the lowest budget of any of the clubs around us, saying this season is an enormous opportunity because the Championship is suddenly going to get monumentally more difficult next season for some reason, saying the board should "put up or shut up". And that's on here, which is usually quite a reasonable place. You're going to see the "make a fcking signing" brigade work themselves into a right state on Twitter in the next couple of weeks.
When a five month borrow of an unproven Arsenal kid is costing you £1m plus an agent fee, we're best off not bothering and making do.
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How do they stay clear of FFP? |  | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 17:47 - Jan 5 with 3059 views | Northernr |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 17:46 - Jan 5 by Harbour |
How do they stay clear of FFP? |
Quick withdrawal from the bank of Almeira every now and again. | | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 17:48 - Jan 5 with 3045 views | Mick_S |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 17:35 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
Tomorrow's...
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They are doing it again. Is it 5hit or bust? Get on the train lads if you can find some space. |  |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 18:07 - Jan 5 with 2949 views | Harbour |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 17:47 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
Quick withdrawal from the bank of Almeira every now and again. |
Yes it will catch up with them in the end ala Derby Reading ..hopefully! | | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 19:35 - Jan 5 with 2769 views | Stainrod |
If we end this window with exactly the same squad that we went into this window, it will not be a terrible widow.
So endeth the lesson. | | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 19:38 - Jan 5 with 2764 views | enfieldargh |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 18:07 - Jan 5 by Harbour |
Yes it will catch up with them in the end ala Derby Reading ..hopefully! |
Cant see them getting auto promotion so its play off at best.
WBA unless they totally disintegrate
Boro looking stronger & stronger
Blackburn look like they will stick around
That leaves at least Huddersfield, Sheff U, Stoke for them to battle it out for 6th spot.
Yes I know there's a team missing | |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 19:47 - Jan 5 with 2737 views | eghamranger |
Millwall? |  | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 20:17 - Jan 5 with 2626 views | aston_hoop |
Harlee Dean linked this time (to us, not Forest) Assume Warbs knows him from Brentford? |  |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 22:58 - Jan 5 with 2393 views | LythamR |
oh dear a link to footballleagueworld that festering pile of clickbait crap is this the beginning of the end!! | | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 00:18 - Jan 6 with 2273 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 19:38 - Jan 5 by enfieldargh |
Cant see them getting auto promotion so its play off at best.
WBA unless they totally disintegrate
Boro looking stronger & stronger
Blackburn look like they will stick around
That leaves at least Huddersfield, Sheff U, Stoke for them to battle it out for 6th spot.
Yes I know there's a team missing |
Two things I'd say about Blackburn:
1. Diaz might be off this Jan
2. Under Mowbray they do seem to have a lot of these streaky runs - both winning runs and losing runs. This one has more legs than others, but wouldn't be shocked if it gave way to more mediocre form. |  |
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| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 00:34 - Jan 6 with 2243 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 15:43 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
Transfer window has been open three days. They've already done Djed Spence (there already on loan tbf), Keinan Davis, Steve Cook which they've had to pay over and above what we were offering to get, and now want Jed Wallace who they're going to have to pay over and above what Besiktas are are offering. This is day four.
And all the responses to it online are "it's different now, we've got a CEO that knows what he's doing". That CEO came from Barnsley with a very clear ethos that you do not sign players over 26, you sign only players with sell on value so you can start the Brentford-style churn. Second transfer window, they're forking over big wage to get Steve Cook on a three-year contract at the end of which he'll be 34. The bloke who's actually paid by The Athletic to write sensibly about them is chucking out "why it made sense for Forest to abandon the U26 plan this time..." pieces only for them to go chasing another over 26 the day after.
They're mental. Properly mental.
Maybe one day it'll work for them, they'll fluke a promotion. Maybe this year. And then none of it will matter. But there's not much sign so far. Cook is their 83rd permanent signing since January 2018. |
Look on the bright side Clive you can break out that train picture on the match preview its been almost a year I think I miss it badly |  | | |
| Who does Steve Cook Replace? on 04:50 - Jan 6 with 2112 views | nix |
For every Wolves or Villa for whom it paid off, there's a Derby or Reading, who are paying the price for it. It's a hell of a gamble. I'm not sure how they're not breaking FFP already as they had a £25 million loss a couple of seasons ago.
They looked like they had been a bit more sensible last summer by trimming the squad, but maybe getting within touching distance of the play offs this season has made them tear up that strategy. |  | | |
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