| F*CK OFF RAMSEY 20:29 - Sep 25 with 33427 views | thompsonridd |
If you can't get a team up for it for a local derby with 4, 000 away fans you should probably work somewhere else |  | | |  |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 07:53 - Sep 26 with 3139 views | JonDoeman |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 22:15 - Sep 25 by Jigsore |
Reply to my comment and then downvote it in one smooth motion, nice
yeah i'd love to be able to afford a season ticket but unfortunately i'm a poor student, I live about 180 miles from the ground I can't drive but yeah... f*ck me. If you ever wondered why you don't see a load of younger QPR fans maybe that kinda of attitude isn't very helpful
don't get me wrong, I both appreciate, envy (and mostly pity lol) those who get to see us play every other week but just because you spend more money than me does not mean you care more than me |
I wasn't having a pop at you , just easier to say what you said about next summer if you aren't investing time & money in it. We have been shit at home since he took charge, I have seen him win one match . They did their best to fck that up as well. [Post edited 26 Sep 2015 8:13]
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 07:54 - Sep 26 with 3140 views | nix |
You're absolutely right Baz. Teams have worked out how to play us and we're just not adaptable. When teams press us in numbers when we're attacking we panic and give up possession rather than use the extra space or players freed up. We also don't move the ball quickly enough, possibly because the movement off the ball isn't good enough. So many players yesterday were taking two or three touches before passing the ball, putting themselves under pressure and giving Fulham the chance to press the ball and either tackle our player or intercept the panic pass. Also they targeted our weak right hand side, time and again. Nearly every attack came from that side, either because Chery wasn't tracking back or Perch wasn't up to it or maybe a combination of the two. We made Pringle look world class!
Basically, it looked like Fulham had a clear plan, which everyone understood and the players to execute it, and we didn't. That's what frustrates me most. It's not individual mistakes, I'm increasingly believing, it's shape, structure and everyone having a clear job that plays to our strengths and exploits the weaknesses of the opposition. Without that, you're playing U8s football. |  | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 08:30 - Sep 26 with 3076 views | ozranger |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 07:54 - Sep 26 by nix |
You're absolutely right Baz. Teams have worked out how to play us and we're just not adaptable. When teams press us in numbers when we're attacking we panic and give up possession rather than use the extra space or players freed up. We also don't move the ball quickly enough, possibly because the movement off the ball isn't good enough. So many players yesterday were taking two or three touches before passing the ball, putting themselves under pressure and giving Fulham the chance to press the ball and either tackle our player or intercept the panic pass. Also they targeted our weak right hand side, time and again. Nearly every attack came from that side, either because Chery wasn't tracking back or Perch wasn't up to it or maybe a combination of the two. We made Pringle look world class!
Basically, it looked like Fulham had a clear plan, which everyone understood and the players to execute it, and we didn't. That's what frustrates me most. It's not individual mistakes, I'm increasingly believing, it's shape, structure and everyone having a clear job that plays to our strengths and exploits the weaknesses of the opposition. Without that, you're playing U8s football. |
Bingo! I have read through all of the messages and your's is the closest to what I have not really seen empahsised. Someone mentioned that the Bolton game is a big one for Ramsey and he needs to get the players motivated and the tactics right. However, even if he does get the tactics right, or appears to, the opposition will find a way to get around it and expose our deficiencies. As you say, they have worked us out. Only once in my memory, against Sherwood, has Ramsey out-thought another manager. That is, a big problem he has is to be able to read the game and make the correct - and most often not what he thinks is the correct - decision so as to turn the game around. That is, whether a change in formation, moving players around or making substitutions. Yes, Fulham had a plan and the players fulfilled it. I am sure Ramsey had a plan and wanted it implemented, but that was not working from the start and his reaction, that being his attempts, or lack of, to fix that plan were what really brought him undone. We can accuse the players - Henry, Ale, Chief, Perch, etc - but who selected them to fit that plan or perhaps who selected a plan to fit them? CR has shown an inability to correctly alter his plans, although not through want of trying, and thus to many here appears to be "clueless." Unless he improves on this ability, I cannot but concur that he is not a person fit for the position and should commence his training at a much lower level before returning much the better for it. |  | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 08:48 - Sep 26 with 2994 views | TheBlob |
It was two basic personal errors that were the architect of that defeat.It was like a couple of bird turds that fall on an alpine slope,soon they're accumulating and rolling and all of a sudden you've got a f*cking great avalanche. |  |
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 08:54 - Sep 26 with 2974 views | derbyhoop |
This thread was so predictable. And understandable.
Was the problem selection, tactics, motivation. Or was it a thoroughly crap performance all over the park. It's easy to blame the coach but when are the players going to accept responsibility. |  |
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 09:09 - Sep 26 with 2954 views | plasmahoop |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 08:54 - Sep 26 by derbyhoop |
This thread was so predictable. And understandable.
Was the problem selection, tactics, motivation. Or was it a thoroughly crap performance all over the park. It's easy to blame the coach but when are the players going to accept responsibility. |
It was a piss poor performance. Not enough effort, no tackling, tracking back, retaining possession. No good points at all. Despite some changes to personnel we still are overpaid, unfit and lazy. I went to Brighton v hull the other week, and although they weren't as bad as us hull had a similar lszy appearance with players neither defending or joining the attack. Once these players play in the premier, however badly they can no longer be arsed. We need a taskmaster take no shit kind of manager. Get the team fit , caring not about reputation s or names. Chris Ramsey is too nice for this. The fans despair, but the players pocket another 30 grand and get back in the bentley | | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 09:19 - Sep 26 with 2916 views | wrinklyhoop |
Yeah that was an awful moment at the Etihad last season and changed my view of CR. Last night made me wonder if he actually studies the oppo, and selects and sets the team up accordingly? | | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 10:36 - Sep 26 with 2855 views | baz_qpr |
How we are defend as a team particularly in wide areas is a an issue
The form of some of the personal and in some cases the ability (I am thinking Henry, Ned, Green Perch )in the way we've set up is a problem.
The lack of plan B - last needed an early change in formation IMHO he either needed to go to a midfield 3 with the addition of Doughty or 4-4-2 with Mackie coming on up top. if a player was to be hooked it had to be for a change in formation and therefore it had to be Luongo
the decision to throw Angella straight in for Hall who had been excellent in the previous few games has also been a disaster
Clear lack of leadership on the field |  | | |
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 11:40 - Sep 26 with 2770 views | Doughnut |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 21:18 - Sep 25 by BostonR |
Get Nigel Pearson tonight. |
....that's a VERY Good idea!! |  | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 13:40 - Sep 26 with 2707 views | 1BobbyHazell |
What an absolute c*nt of a post. |  | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 14:22 - Sep 26 with 2658 views | TheBlob |
It would be nice if for once he chucked in a "sorry lads I f*cked up". But no,another manager who blames everyone else. | |
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 14:53 - Sep 26 with 2616 views | FDC |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 13:40 - Sep 26 by 1BobbyHazell |
What an absolute c*nt of a post. |
Shameful isn't it. This Ramsey saga is really shaking out some latent racism on this board. "Social experiment". FFS. |  | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 14:57 - Sep 26 with 2605 views | QPR_John |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 14:53 - Sep 26 by FDC |
Shameful isn't it. This Ramsey saga is really shaking out some latent racism on this board. "Social experiment". FFS. |
One post out of how many hardly shaking out latent racism | | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 14:58 - Sep 26 with 2598 views | Discodroids |
I ve seen two people make what some would perceive to be racist posts , which is of course two to many, are their others ?? |  |
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:09 - Sep 26 with 2568 views | isawqpratwcity |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 14:58 - Sep 26 by Discodroids |
I ve seen two people make what some would perceive to be racist posts , which is of course two to many, are their others ?? |
No, only two that I've seen, and one of those wasn't certain.
But 'social experiment' is an absolute purler. |  |
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:12 - Sep 26 with 2556 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 14:58 - Sep 26 by Discodroids |
I ve seen two people make what some would perceive to be racist posts , which is of course two to many, are their others ?? |
I've only seen Benny the Ball's posts. It's just pretty shitty/stupid/unnecessary of him to bring race into it like that, making up shite like Social Experiment. Same as it would be if one of Ramsey and Les' defenders brought a racism accusation against those attacking them. | | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:18 - Sep 26 with 2541 views | stevec |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 14:58 - Sep 26 by Discodroids |
I ve seen two people make what some would perceive to be racist posts , which is of course two to many, are their others ?? |
As you say Disco, any number is too many.
I do wish though that those in favour of Ramsey could come up with something positive about him rather than just playing the race card every time. |  | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:21 - Sep 26 with 2532 views | Dorse |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 14:58 - Sep 26 by Discodroids |
I ve seen two people make what some would perceive to be racist posts , which is of course two to many, are their others ?? |
Sorry, I was just eating Robinson's Marmalde whilst listening to my Al Jolsson records. What did they say? |  |
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:26 - Sep 26 with 2516 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:18 - Sep 26 by stevec |
As you say Disco, any number is too many.
I do wish though that those in favour of Ramsey could come up with something positive about him rather than just playing the race card every time. |
FFS Steve, we're trying to move away from all the race/racism bollox and then you come out with a stupid, inflammatory, mass generalisation like this.
'Playing the race card every time' - f**king ell.
I'm not even interested in defending Ramsey but b******* like your post is frustrating. I'll leave it there because I really don't want to get into nonsense with someone who thinks such an ignorant statement is worth posting.
For starters just go back and see who brought race up and how they did it. [Post edited 26 Sep 2015 15:27]
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:28 - Sep 26 with 2505 views | Discodroids |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:21 - Sep 26 by Dorse |
Sorry, I was just eating Robinson's Marmalde whilst listening to my Al Jolsson records. What did they say? |
I'll get back to you dorse, once 'ive listened to this Eugene Terre Blanche Remix of The Lord Haw haw electro funk jam, ' how pure is youre grand pappys Bloodline' ., The saxon mix .
in addition , These blood diamonds wont clean themselves you know, anyone got any brasso? [Post edited 26 Sep 2015 15:32]
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:31 - Sep 26 with 2500 views | Lblock |
Boom.
And here we go.... mentions of race and racism.
I just knew that would get whipped up either by idiotic comments or by accusations....and it seems we have both.
I had a conversation last night where reverse racism was mentioned and that certain players had their places and status enhanced because of "a brother thing". It's stupidity and completely deflects attention away from the core issue:-
Benny
Sir Les and
Bungle
are all woefully inpet in their well paid and highly important positions.
This Lee Hoos must think "WTF have I done?" when he looks around him.
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 21:05 - Sep 26 with 2358 views | LadbrokeR |
I am missing the point. Ramsay is being referred to as Benny on account of his wooly hat and it's likeness to Benny from Crossroads. Benny the Ball was a character in Top Cat a small round cat if remember. Exactly at what point has race been mentioned or even inferred. | | | |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 21:51 - Sep 26 with 2369 views | TheBlob |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 21:05 - Sep 26 by LadbrokeR |
I am missing the point. Ramsay is being referred to as Benny on account of his wooly hat and it's likeness to Benny from Crossroads. Benny the Ball was a character in Top Cat a small round cat if remember. Exactly at what point has race been mentioned or even inferred. |
I'm sure the permanently outraged will be delighted to enlighten you. | |
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 21:57 - Sep 26 with 3468 views | Dorse |
Ben E King? | |
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| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 21:57 - Sep 26 with 3468 views | stevec |
| F*CK OFF RAMSEY on 15:26 - Sep 26 by 1BobbyHazell |
FFS Steve, we're trying to move away from all the race/racism bollox and then you come out with a stupid, inflammatory, mass generalisation like this.
'Playing the race card every time' - f**king ell.
I'm not even interested in defending Ramsey but b******* like your post is frustrating. I'll leave it there because I really don't want to get into nonsense with someone who thinks such an ignorant statement is worth posting.
For starters just go back and see who brought race up and how they did it. [Post edited 26 Sep 2015 15:27]
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One person on the message board has been accused of racism when, if you read a different thread on here, proves entirely that they are not racist.
i agree it would be nice to move away from the subject but wish that some could accept that the attacks on Chris Ramsey are purely based on his managerial deficiencies and nothing more than that. | | | |
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