| Fear of change? False stability? 19:30 - Jan 10 with 1523 views | QPR_ARG |
This one really puzzles me. We've seen it happened so many times around us. Not just the last few years, but also during the last few weeks as well.
"You can't go sacking managers in a revolving doors fashion", is a common phrase to dismiss the possibility of changing to try and be in a better situation.
"We need stability", is another one I dread.
What is stability? Who likes this kind of stability (if we are a stable club)? The only constant are the excuses and bad performances. That's about the most stable aspects of QPR under Redknapp.
Why this enormous fear of changing something that is clearly not working.
We only have Leicester below us. They closed the gap and now they're only 2 points behind us.
WBA changed. Got Pulis. Took him one game to get his first win and we know they just enhanced their hopes of surviving big time.
Pardew goes to Palace, gets a comeback win and leapfrogs QPR on their way out of the relegation zone. I know they haven't achieved anything with these two wins, but they are in a far better place than we are right now.
Koeman replaces Pochettino at Southampton. Not doing a bad job for someone without a lot of experience in England.
Pochettino himself (5th with Spurs).
Even Van Gaal is a newcomer in the Premier League and look at him and how his work is starting to show.
Why are we so afraid of removing a manager who already saw us relegated last time we were here in the top tier?
Why are we so scared of letting go a man whose team plays worse and worse each day?
Tempted to reply: "ANYONE", when the inevitable, almost taunting question of "oh, yeah? And who do you replace him with?", but I'll stick to my guns and continue to reply: ALEJANDRO SABELLA.
Out of a job since taking Argentina to the World Cup final. Knows England (played there for Sheffield United and Leeds). Has won stuff domestically and internationally. And he's a great motivator and a keen tactician.
Players love playing for him.
His task would be much harder than what it would have been if we didn't have to endure more than half a season of this stability! |  | | |  |
| Fear of change? False stability? on 20:06 - Jan 10 with 1481 views | CambsHoop |
Stability is over-rated. If you're heading in the wrong direction, then stability is actually the worst of all options; much better to meander all over the place without a plan than to remain stable; at least you have a chance of hitting the right direction.
A calculated plan is much better than random meandering. Unfortunately we don't seem very good at those.
Personally, I don't think Fernandez gets any of that. We're relying on stability at precisely the wrong time. |  | | |
| Fear of change? False stability? on 20:23 - Jan 10 with 1444 views | bosh67 |
I am starting to think that the lunatic italians had it right. Concede a goal sack and hire a new one. Managers are disposable. They were right all along. Perhaps we should go a stage further and install one of those sushi conveyor belts and rotate ever changing managers on that through a match.
We have set one record today and perhaps we can set another one by hiring and firing more managers than anyone in a single game?
Yeah, this could work. |  |
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| Fear of change? False stability? on 21:00 - Jan 10 with 1390 views | QPR_John |
| Fear of change? False stability? on 20:23 - Jan 10 by bosh67 |
I am starting to think that the lunatic italians had it right. Concede a goal sack and hire a new one. Managers are disposable. They were right all along. Perhaps we should go a stage further and install one of those sushi conveyor belts and rotate ever changing managers on that through a match.
We have set one record today and perhaps we can set another one by hiring and firing more managers than anyone in a single game?
Yeah, this could work. |
What do you want to do give him a new contract |  | | |
| Fear of change? False stability? on 16:18 - Jan 11 with 1276 views | Ingham |
We seem to have a completely false idea about how the game works.
In a trade like carpentry or building, a required standard can be set. It changes, but at a given time, it is measurable, and the required standard can be expected of everyone, because success or failure is decided on whether a job measures up to an objective standard of excellence.
Everyone is left to get on with the task to the best of their ability. Football is nothing like this.
Your fellow professionals come round to your place of business and do everything they can to ensure you can't even stand or move without getting battered black and blue. The resulting chaos and frenzy means that, for most Clubs, a good result is followed by a bad one, a good performance by an abominable one. Not for a few weeks, but for decades.
Yet, at QPR, we talk about the future as if it is all decided already. 40,000 supporters, the Champions League, and world class talent. We live in a world that is so unpredictable, nobody can tell what the ball or the players will do next.
Yet the Board, the Players, and the Manager think and talk in predictables.
In building or carpentry, the required standard is not just something that can be measured, it can reasonably be expected of everyone. That is IMPOSSIBLE in football. Even if every player in every squad were a Messi or a Pele for their own position, 19 Clubs would lose without fail.
In carpentry or building, we're told that every effort is taken to ensure that every job is a success. In football, the game is DESIGNED to generate almost total failure. Only one Club per season can reasonably say that ambition was matched by accomplishment.
Yet, at QPR, we hear from players, managers and directors, one regime after another, talking as if failure is some kind of error. That if we hadn't been so stupid, we would just have popped along to the Trophies Shop, paid our £178 million, and had the medals and cup express delivery.
Unlike a trade, in football, not only can your opponents wreck all your plans at any moment, and not only is this usual, rather than the exception, it is also the case that a football club can't succeed IRRESPECTIVE of what all the other Clubs are doing AWAY from Loftus Road or wherever we happen to be on the day. Our fate is determined by decisions taken miles away, by people who have nothing to do with QPR, by games in which aren't even playing.
But we're hypnotised by the myth that the people running the Club or the team are somehow in control of everything. Not that the structure of the game, the system, simply tosses us whatever scraps are left when the bigger, better Clubs and players have taken the pick of what is on offer.
Even the standard that we must attain to stay up, or go up, or win something - this changes all the time, and in a way that is impossible to gauge. In a given year, the standard might actually be much lower than for many years. But all that is required is that the winning Club - or the 7th or 15th place Clubs - reaches the particular standard required to achieve that position AT THAT MOMENT. One season, every single player in the league might be as good as Pele or Messi. It won't make the Clubs any more capable of winning the title than if they were all as bad as a QPR under-5 or over-75 supporters team. They are ranked 1 to 20 irrespective of how good - objectively speaking - the best or worst is. All they have to be is better or worse than the others in that particular season.
This baffles the people running the Club. Everything they do is based on the idea that the game is predictable. At QPR, members of the Board talk about the Champions League, world class talent, and 40,000 attendances as if these things are as measurable and calculable as building a house to a given standard by merely finding professionals with the right training, experience and technique.
That is possible in the building trade. But it simply won't do in football. For one thing, hardly any of our Clubs KNOWS what the required standard is nowadays. We have developed a game in which winning is confined to a tiny handful of Clubs and individuals.
And what do our managers and chairmen say? WE'VE got it wrong. Not the Club, but the Supporters. We should keep the faith, believe, get behind the lads.
Clubs do succeed. But by being ready for anything. It isn't just that we're ready for nothing, although our away form suggests we're working on it, . We're only ever ready for things to go our way. That's why we set such store by optimism. Optimism tells us everything is okay. And one of the things that guarantees perpetual optimism is sacking the manager. Sack the manager, change the squad, and, in a few years, watch the people who were here for life sell up and ship out, and our expectations are high again.
QPR's karma is always doing the same thing, always expecting a different outcome.
All this serves to do is to hide the magnitude of our failure. At just the point when we are about to LEARN something, to see how meaningless our efforts have been, how empty all the reassurances were, how unreliable, mercenary and deluded the QPR PR machine is, the slate is abruptly wiped clean.
And we have new saviours to believe in.
Either people with no track record or know-how at all, or someone else's cast-offs, players other Clubs couldn't wait to get rid of, crocks, has-beens, mates of the manager, proteges of favoured agents. Every brief improvement in results is understood not as a couple of steps, a tiny fraction of what is actually required to master our 'trade'. Instead, it is a snapshot, a road map of the entire journey. We know how many our support will increase by, when we don't even know who we'll be playing.
So we're paralysed. We can't do anything realistic, because we're overshadowed by the idea that somehow the Board will just snap their fingers, and we're in the Champions League. So it would be a waste of time laboriously to set about developing the qualities that might strengthen the Club as the kind of Club it is.
We're stuck with Asia, and branding, and our cohorts 40,000 strong, the CHampions League, there for the taking, world class talent if only we 'keep the faith'.
If it's that easy, what's stopping them? Yes, I know. Trust Harry/Tony/Amit. Okay, what is it that I am trusting them to do?
Survival this season. 7th place next. Or should that be 8th? How many years until we get into the Champions League, then? 90? 140? Or can we expect to be there ... within 3 years? 30? No? If it is daft to put a date or a figure on it, it is daft to talk about it at all.
And Harry clearly thinks so. When it comes down to it, we've got Harry backing off committing himself to anything, and expertly converting all the reassurances he and Fernandes have given us to excuses, game by game, just like every other manager before him, and every other chairman come to that. And just like Harry did when we were in the Premiership last time, almost to the day we went down.
Perhaps it would help if the people running the Clubs had to put up big talk bonds of their own money - not debt, not the Club's - to match every boast of how well the Club would do, how big its support would be, how world class its talent would be.
It should be possible to quantify those things these days, into tens, hundreds or billions of pounds. With the big talker's money not going directly into the Club in question (the investors would simply help themselves), but into a fund to cover the debt of Clubs whose losses are directly due to the clowns running them.
I wonder how much we'd hear then about 40,000 fans, the Champions League, and world class talent. When the authorities siphoned £1 billion out of Fernandes's account to insure the Club - or other Clubs - against any failure to deliver what he and his mates have promised.
ThHen we'd really have something to cheer about when Harry lost another game, and cost us another £3 million for another season, and the authorities compensated the CLUB for their failure, instead of rewarding the people responsible by endorsing the lunatic levels of debt required to PAY all these losers. | | | |
| Fear of change? False stability? on 17:02 - Jan 11 with 1234 views | Northernr |
Personally, it's fead of what's coming next. If I thought they'd look into the lower divisions and get a prospect, or thought they'd studied European football and were capable of attracting a Koeman or Pochettino type appointment then I'd be on the Redknapp out bandwagon.
They wouldn't. It would be the flavour of the month, it would be somebody with an over active agent and media presence, because the senior people at our club no nothing about football. Now Pulis has a job it would be Sherwood. |  | | |
| Fear of change? False stability? on 17:05 - Jan 11 with 1232 views | ElHoop |
Oh for God's sake. If we hadn't sacked Warnock then we wouldn't have got Hughes and if we hadn't have got Hughes we wouldn't have ended up with Redknapp. At some point we have to take it on the chin and get a new manager when you are supposed to get a new manager, which is at the end of the season. Otherwise you keep on making do with what's available at the time that you got fed up with the last one, and it goes on and on and on.
Some of us have to actually go to games for our amusement, not sit there playing fantasy managers. |  | | |
| Fear of change? False stability? on 17:16 - Jan 11 with 1212 views | Harbour |
Ferguson Wenger.....not too shabby for stability | | | |
| Fear of change? False stability? on 17:25 - Jan 11 with 1201 views | johncharles |
We have stability. We have set a course and nothing will sidetrack us. We are heading down. |  |
| Strong and stable my arse. |
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